/lit/ - Literature

>>6829505
Not Hemingway

faulk-where?

heming-who?

I like both.

They're both trying to do entirely different things, so it's hard to compare them.

>>6829505
I'd bet on Hemm if they were to fight, but Fuckner was definitely the greater writer.

>A-laying there, right tip to my door, where every bad luck that comes and goes is bound to find it. I told Addie it want any luck living on a road when it come by here, and she said, for the world like a woman, "Get up and move, then." But I told her it want no luck in it, because the Lord put roads for travelling: why He laid them down flat on the earth. When He aims for something to be always a-moving, He makes it longways, like a road or a horse or a wagon, but when He aims for something to stay put, He makes it up-and-down ways, like a tree or a man. And so he never aimed for folks to live on a road, because which gets there first, I says, the road or the house? Did you ever know Him to set a road down by a house? I says. No you never, I says, because it's always men cant rest till they gets the house set where everybody that passes in a wagon can spit in the
doorway, keeping the folks restless and wanting to get up and go somewheres else when He aimed for them to stay put like a tree or a stand of corn. Because if He'd a aimed for man to be always a-moving and going somewheres else, wouldn't He a put him longways on his belly, like a snake? It stands to reason He would.

Literally inbreeding on paper.

>>6829505

Faulkner. I love Hemingway but he was never able to write anything even approaching something like Sound and Fury tbh

Cuckner by far, hemmingway is a meme author in my view

Faulkner.

>yfw a Yankee criticizes Faulkner near you

>>6829505

McCarthy

>>6829657
>hemmingway is a meme author

true. He really got lucky by associating himself with talented people, and getting promoted so hard by boomers and new readers.

hemingway for no-frills masculine writing, faulkner for flights of transcendent folksy prose

Faulkner has faggot prose. Hemingway is the way.

>I like manly writers. Hemingway, Thompson, Bukowski, the list goes on!

>>6829505
>implying Hemingway is even good
>implying Faulkner isnt tha god
seriously, this comparison is way off and insulting to Faulkner

Steinbeck

Melville.

does anyone even like Fitzgerald? too cucky?

>>6829713
>>6829657
>All these plebs shitting on Hemingway

jahn purple

>>6830097
>implying Hemingway wasn't a saddening, repulsive failure as a writer and a man

he looks like ozu

>>6830120
sounds like your average writer to me lmao

Hemingway is superior. He knows you feel the lion's roar from the bottom of your scrotum.

>>6829505

Hemingway. I've always found much of Faulkner overwrought, incoherent, or provincial. And before you accuse me of being a pleb, one of my favorite novels is Ulysses, another Ada or Ardor. He's like Pound: clearly brilliant, but never quite hit his mark.

Hemingway achieved everything he set out to do. His work, when it isn't too posturing, has a deep pathos to it, as well as a backbone of thought.

Absalom, Absalom! is better than anything Hemingway ever wrote. And I really like Hemingway.

>>6830120
that's called the literary lifestyle

>>6830059
Does anyone not like Fitzgerald

>>6830315
I couldn't finish The Great Gatsby. It just seemed profoundly boring to me, and not in a good way.

>>6830330
well congrats i guess pleb

>>6829505
They're both corncobbers. Faulkner was just more provincial.

>>6830342
It struck me as one of those novels Americans champion as great while it isn't really enticing to the outside world, which makes me question whether the greatness is something they sincerely believe in (perhaps dependant on having a feeling of distinct 'Americanness' that Europeans lack?) or whether they were simply in need of an American novel to call the great American novel and came up with the best thing they could find.

>>6830357
englishman here, it's beautifully written and full of interesting ideas and has a great central story and has such an elegant light touch it's fucking magical

>>6830357
Probably the latter. I mean many American writers praise Fitzgerald as one of the best, but it must be because they were in desperate need of finding that great American novel, not anything else. That surely has to be it.

>>6830367
Maybe I'll give it another shot soon, it was many years ago that I read it.

>>6830367
>beautifully written
Really? I'm not being sarcastic here, but: could you please post a passage you find particularly beautiful? I'm not quoted anon but I read Gatsby and read half of Tender is the night and I couldn't stand it. His style is awful to me.

>>6830426
>The lights grow brighter as the earth lurches away from the sun, and now the orchestra is playing yellow cocktail music, and the opera of voices pitches a key higher. Laughter is easier minute by minute, spilled with prodigality, tipped out at a cheerful word. The groups change more swiftly, swell with new arrivals, dissolve and form in the same breath; already there are wanderers, confident girls who weave here and there among the stouter and more stable, become for a sharp, joyous moment the centre of a group, and then, excited with triumph, glide on through the sea-change of faces and voices and color under the constantly changing light.

Hemingway, Ernest. A writer of books for boys. Certainly better than Conrad. Has at least a voice of his own. Nothing I would care to have written myself. In mentality and emotion, hopelessly juvenile. Loathe his works about bells, balls, and bulls.

Faulkner, William. Dislike him. Writer of corncobby chronicles. To consider them masterpieces is an absurd delusion. A nonentity, means absolutely nothing to me.

>>6830456
nabokov just because you write well yourself doesn't mean you get to be an asshole about everyone else you supercilious fuck

>>6830456

>meme posters shitting on Nobel Laureates

God I love this board

Fitzgerald

>>6830456
and a tip of the fedora to you, sir!

seriously when did so many children come here

>>6830465
>>6830479
guys it's nabokov i already said

>>6830484

I know it's Nabokov and I love how wrong he is

Another gem:

>Camus, Albert. Dislike him. Second-rate, ephemeral, puffed-up. A nonentity, means absolutely nothing to me. Awful.

in_the_trash.png

>>6830486
I don't think that helps your point as in that case is is absolutely right.

>>6830486
i feel like in order to be a really great artist, you have to possess a certain sense of self worth and assurance in your own particular way of doing things. otherwise, like most people you'd just kill your own creations in a fit of self disgust like the rest of us. you need to believe fervently in your own opinions and the absolute burning importance of doing it RIGHT. so they're always somewhat arrogant and somewhat pretentious and have these really strong opinions whereas mediocre people like me can just enjoy everything on its own merits. it's why you get all these quotes of absolute geniuses shitting all over each others' stuff because it's not to their tastes

>>6830465
>>6830479
>newfags detected

try reading more and commenting less my reddit friends

>>6830504
>took the bait
I wouldn't worry about them too much

>>6830486
>implying Camus isn't second-rate
you'll understand when you're older
He is wrong on Faulkner, though, and plenty of other things

>>6830486
camus a shit

>>6830511
>implying you're not second-rate
you'll understand when you're older (your mom told me that in bed already)

>>6830528
Fella I'm like eight-rate, or I don't even rate

>>6830465
>nobel prizes means anything

>>6830456
>Loathe his works about bells, balls, and bulls.
>corncobby chronicles.

Top bants.

He's spot on about both though.

>>6830551
>nobel prizes, especially in the middle third of the century, mean nothing
kek failure false rancour at authority faggot

>>6830456
>tfw going through his list and spotting another pedophile

>Carroll, Lewis. Have always been fond of him. One would like to have filmed his picnics. The greatest children's story writer of all time.

>>6830563
>implying they ever meant anything

False worship of authority, friendo.

>>6830566
>Poe, Edgar Allan. A favorite between the ages of 10 and 15, but no longer. One would like to have filmed his wedding.
he married his underage cousin

>>6830143
Pleb.

>>6830585
>this illiterate
you're not fooling anybody, buddy

>>6830607
>you don't like my gatekeepers of objective good taste so you can't read

:^)

>>6830593
kek

>>6830330
gr8 gatsby is his worst novel, only plebs who parrot the opinions of high school english teachers like it.

this side of paradise and the beautiful and damned are much better.

>>6830618
>pecking at big evil "high brow" culture with your baby critique beak because you can't handle that nobel prizes have been hugely relevant and important to literature

>>6830635
>implying literature is a singular institution to which things have the possibility of being important to, let alone the obama peace price brigade

>>6830635
>nobel prizes have been hugely relevant and important to literature
would you care to elaborate on that?

>>6830563
>>6830635
not sure if stan