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>> No.6824171

Once you believe in yourself more, anon-kun, you too can write at the speed of light!

>> No.6824175

>9 minutes
u wot

>> No.6824178

>>6824168
>>6824138
>Joyce basically lived and died in poverty.

He was a great writer but his life was kinda depressing.

>> No.6824180

>>6824178
his last words were funny as hell

>> No.6824181

The speed of light was slower in his time.

>> No.6824980

>>6824180
>Does nobody understand?
I don't get it...

>> No.6824984

>>6824980
He's referring to Finnegan's Wake, probably.

>> No.6825028

>>6824181
no,its slower in our time due to more atmosphere thickness but in free space they are both the same

>> No.6825217

>>6824984
>Finnegan's
>gan's
>n's
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>> No.6825969

>>6824980
Its a reference to Hegels last words

>> No.6826486

>>6825969
>And he didn't understand me.
I still don't get it.

>> No.6826500

imagine actually writing a novel in that kind of time

it would be like an upwelling of linguistic pressure in your mind, like a swelling pus sac that when lanced (by speaking/writing) pours out in a burst of relief that happens to be in the form of a novel

>> No.6826599

>>6826486
He's referring to Phenomenology of Spirit, probably.

>> No.6826880

>>6825969
yeah, because joyce was totally so edgy that his last words were a reference...
no, man, he was just a disappointed old man. nobody liked his monsterpiece FW.
which, guys, i think i have brain cancer or something. i started seriously enjoying reading Finnegans Wake a while ago.
Maybe Jimmy Jay was just 70 years ahead of his time or something?

>> No.6827509

>>6826599
Thank you.
I still don't get it but I have a book name.
And actually it was supposed to be something like "I only had one student who understood me, and he didn't understand me".

>> No.6827657

>>6824168
But it took him a collective of 17 years to write finnegans wake, the most incomprehensible shit ever made.

In my second year of college, I wrote a paper on the Russo-Japanese war summarizing shadow intents in about 40 minutes because I memorized almost everything I needed. My friends said it took them about 3-4 hours and one girl from our class took a couple of days. Doesn't make me any better than them, better prepared maybe, but no further ahead and certainly not more talented.

Some people write fast and others write slow. Some conceptualize ideas more quickly, while others brood longer. At the end of it all, it doesn't matter.

>> No.6827675

>>6827657
Finnegans wake, while totally incomprehensible, is not a piece of shit. It is an incredibly sophisticated, and also deeply hilarious, work of art. Something a nigger like you couldn't conceive of even attempting in a billion years. A universe made entirely out of language. Bitch.

That being said I wouldn't force my worst enemy to try to make sense of it -- mostly because it is a rebellion against things that make conclusive sense (like, say, most of the more dominant political ideologies at the time, which pretended to make sense, but ended up being trash).

Also, you make really good point regarding Dubliners, and OP is full of shit anyway, Joyce wrote most of the stories when he was around 22, this is true, but The Dead, the story that got him most of his early fame, took ten more years; Ulysses took 9; Portrait took 10.

>> No.6827676

>>6827509
Who do you think it was? Feuerbach?

>> No.6827717

>>6827675
You criticize me for my apparent lack of reading ability yet you cannot even comprehend my comment correctly. I said it was the most incomprehensible shit ever made, shit merely being an expression, placing emphasis on it's incomprehensibility. I did not refer to it as a literal piece of shit.

There is a difference and you need to learn it to avoid embarrassing yourself in the future.

>> No.6827814

>>6824168
Reminder that Dubliners wasn't published until 1914 and James Joyce more than likely edited it for 9 years.

>> No.6827841

>>6827676
I don't even read books much less know who that is.
I'm just passing through really but I'm just about ready to start my journey into literature.

>> No.6827968

>>6827717
jesus, be more fragile. A) your use of the word 'shit' was easily readable both ways, and B) for the most part i wasn't even disagreeing with you, for fuck's sake.

>> No.6828052

>>6827968
I understand you were not in disagreement with me, but I felt I must point out I did not feel Joyce's widely regarded magnum opus was a piece of shit.
There are many ways to interpret a piece of text, but if the reader did not realize the author's intended definition and could not differentiate between a possible nuance and the intended context, then I suppose it was the Author's fault.

I was not shaken by your previous comment, but it seems in light of your current one, you were. 6

>> No.6828120

>>6828052
hey, i guess you like Joyce?
so let's waste our time arguing about who's more shaken instead of discussing Joyce.

No? Aw, grand. So lemme ask. Have you, completely on a sidenote, ever read any of Finnegans Wake? If so, what were your immediate thoughts?
Also, w/r/t the author's fault or no -- Joyce deliberately made it hard as hell to understand, just like with Ulysses, but crazier. Part of the joke was that the harder you tried to understand everything, the more the text left you behind. This is what he should've explained to people before his time was up, imo.

>totally shamelessly taking this opportunity to rant about a book nobody i know wants to talk about

>> No.6828193

>>6826486
Hegel was an atrocious writer
his writings were awkward and clunky and confusing

>> No.6829301

>>6827657
>>6827675
>>6827717
>>6827968
>>6828052
>>6828120
Blow it out your ass, samefag

>> No.6830390

>>6824168
9 minutes you say? Gonna need to see proof he wrote a collection of short stories in less than quarter of an hour

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>>6828120
>w/r/t

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>>6830390
he wrote the whole thing in his head, then put it to paper in nine minutes. here's a picture of him writing The Dead

>> No.6830494

>>6830489
Gonna need proof.

>> No.6830500

>>6830494
I have proof but it might frighten you.

>> No.6830515

>>6828193
nice opinion. consider yourself filtered.

>> No.6830520

>>6826880

keep reading it. also, no such thing as "ahead of his time", time died as soon as god did

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>>6827676
One who was yet to show himself.

>> No.6830527

>>6830489

He looks so fucking cool in this photo.

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>>6830527
the ladies agreed

>> No.6830833

>>6830686
>I hope one of them farts on me

>> No.6830867

>>6830833
>she's leaning closer. that means she doesn't have a fart smell she's trying to hide. shit

>> No.6830900

>>6830867
>looks like I'll have to provide the thunder

>> No.6830916

>>6830900
>>6830867
>>6830833
I need proof on this whole fart fetish situation.
Also, did he... Ever write any sort of erotica on said fetish? Just, for reference and stuff.

>> No.6830921

>>6830916

>tfw don't know any authors with feet fetish inserts

>> No.6830927

>>6830916
http://www.hawkeyelounge.com/threads/james-joyces-dirty-love-letters-nsfw.206245/

From the horse's mouth.

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>"You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also."

>your erotica will never be this good

>> No.6830953

>tfw no fat-assed flatulent Nora to rub my cockstand and fill my nostrils with her brown scent

why live?

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>>6830953

>> No.6831006

>>6830921
I feel you.
Nothing worse than having a fetish that isn't catered to.
I mean feet are like the most catered to fetish ever but still.
>Tfw no musclegf to peg and berate me

>> No.6831018

>>6831006
I could fuck and berate you anon

>> No.6831020

>>6830938
Fun fact:
Martin Luther ate a spoonful of his own shit a day.
But that was for perceived medicinal benefits so it's not that bad.
Man though Joyce was fucking dirty.

>> No.6831049

>>6831018
Are you a female bodybuilder?
I'm not into gay shit bro.

>> No.6831064

>>6831020
>Martin Luther ate a spoonful of his own shit a day.

I do not doubt you in the slightest, but I'd like a source to cite when I discuss religion with Lutherans.

>>6831049
I'm like a female bodybuilder. My clitoris is far more advanced however.

>> No.6831065

>>6830515
zizek detected

>> No.6831214

>>6831064
Pls no I was raised Lutheran I don't want it to be used against my people.
Also post body pics pls

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>>6831214
I'm a little underweight. Not quite body builder mode.

>> No.6831299

>>6831226
Oh anon, you're a riot.

>> No.6831412

>>6830921
just watch tarantino films like a good feetpleb

>> No.6831432

>>6831412
>the drug lord's wife in pulp fiction didn't have a sex scene
Thanks Tarantino