/lit/ - Literature

>>6811689

Just finished reading The Kraken Wakes, pretty fun book but reminded me a lot of War of the Worlds with more of a heavy emphasis on environmental stuff.

Reading Crying Lot now then after going to start the second The Book of New Sun.

>>6811689
'Science Fiction & Fantasy General' is gonna become the most active thread on /lit/ time and time again. good job /lit/

>>6811732
Kill yourself

This board is slow. Could you guys be a pal and tell me what you think of this?

>>6811736
>>6811740

Criticism is appreciated, but if it isn't constructive it will probably be ignored.

Discworld omnibus when?

>>6811689
>What SF/F books are you currently reading?
Nothing at the moment, just finished Words of Radiance today.

>Who are your favorite /sff/ Family or House?
Tough one, dunno so I'll be edgy and go with pic related. Only house pic I had.

>>6811689
>What SF/F books are you currently reading?
Just started ASOS
>Who are your favorite /sff/ Family or House?
Lannisters are based

Can anyone recommend me any good sci fi that deals with if taking huge lengths of time to travel between stars? Preferably something with a big overarching plot rather than just one guy's 'and when I got home it was one hundred years later' narrative. I want to read about space politics and war strategies having to account for manoeuvres taking decades

>>6812670
you could try the expanse series.

So far I mostly read sci fi (among other lit), but not fantasy

Here's a list of what I'm gonna start with so far, tell me what good series I should add:

LOTR
Malazan book of the fallen
Black company
Prince of nothing
Game of memes

>>6812670
Revelation Space series, my boy. You'll love it.

>>6812689
Malazan a shit

>>6812977
Well that's a -1 suggestion as opposed to +1

Should I keep reading Kraken? I'm about 25% of the way through and I'm not sure whether or not I like it. The only character I can really connect to is Vardy and so far the magic system doesn't really appeal to me. I kept reading because I heard later on the magic system gets more post-modern with stuff like a toy rayguyn enchanted to shoot actual lasers

Unholy Consult when

>>6811689
>Atreides

This is /lit/, not /ISIS/

>>6811689
>ATREIDES

DEVASTATORS DEPLOYED

ONLY HOUSE HARKONNEN WILL PREVAIL

>>6812977
Why? Explain yourself, nigger.

Anyone here use goodreads?

Everyone in the normal threads usually reads nothing but literary fiction so Ive never added anyone but I figure there might be some with similar tastes here

>>6812689
Read those first and tell us what you liked and why.

>>6811689
>What SF/F books are you currently reading?
Just started The Two of Swords by KJ Parker.
>Who are your favorite /sff/ Family or House?
Lannisters or Greyjoys.

>>6811689
>Who are your favorite /sff/ Family or House?
Corrino.

They got a really raw deal in Dune, and I wish we'd gotten to hear more about them.

Does reading Dune make anybody else thirsty?

>>6813925
at least leto II gave them harq al ada, basically a historical immortality through ghanima's line

>>6811689
>doesn't have Queen of Fire by Anthony Ryan under the July release.

>>6812689
Your pic looks like it's from Undying Mercenaries by B.V. Larson.
Where McGill did his Veteran test.

>>6814420
Tower Lord was such a step down that nobody cares anymore.

>favorite house

Is reading Brandon Sanderson's 1st Misborn series required to enjoy Alloy of Law?

>>6814516
Most of book 1 is spent explaining the magic system so you should probably read that.
Certainly don't read them all; each book (i dropped the series midway through 3) seemed to get progressively worse.

Just ordered "The House in the Borderlands" and H.P. Lovecrafts Collected Works. Did I do good?

Currently reading Stormcaller by Tom Lloyd.

Mormont is best house.

>>6813843
Are those generally good choices for babby's first fantasea?

Anyone got any good recs for sci fi and fantasy written by women other than Le Guin?

That feel when i have in mind, my perfect sci-fi book, but i can't find someone else who published it so i can read it


How do you get over the fact, that you will never find a book of your perfect imagined sci-fi, /lit/ ?

>>6811875

Why would you want the opinion or "Critique" of people from the most pretentious part of 4chan?

Critiques are never satisfied. For each and everyone, their correction is best. Now what does that make you, the author, look like if you tag along by their opinions?

The only critique, they're never satisfied. It's a subjective thing. That's why it's always counterproductive to ask for opinions.

Just do it in your best way possible from head to finish. Then leave it unread for a couple of months. Then read it again. I guarantee you, each time you'll read it again after some pause you'll want to change something to make it perfect. And that's how you improve your writing. By constant strive for perfection. Not by some anonymous fags on the internet

>>6815141
>homos of the ring
>what is best than death, to crush your enemies, see them fleeing before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women
>good choice

I didn't touch black company until after I read like a dozen plus Dresden Files books.
He had them(Black Company Chronicles) on his book shelf.

Before that I was procrastinating in reading the series because it was so big, when I saw Jim Butcher gave his approval for the series I dived in.
No Regrets.

There was another series that butcher suggested Xando? I forgot, when my load gets low I might take a crack at it.

The cripple is the best character in the First Law serieseven gets his best friend's sister to look after him, with her abundantly over flowing breast.
Do Not touch the books after the trilogy, Abercrombie is a one time hack.

Malazan, yes read it, it got it's roots from black company.

Prince of Nothing enjoy your gay butt sex, incest and muh black seed

>>6815246
Patricia McKillip is great. My favorite is The Forgotten Beasts of Eld, but all of her stuff is more inventive than your average fantasy fiction, despite the generic cover art.

Tanith Lee's Flat Earth series is also good, like Jack Vance but with demonic homosex. She's never crude in describing it. It's not exactly character centered and the prose is somewhat flowery.

>>6815246
Black Jewels Trilogy
Sookie Stackhouse? I read it and fapped.....

If you like Urban fantasy, try Faith Hunter.

Also Trudy Caravan ... I would suggest Kim Harrison and Laurell K Hamilton, but their books turned to shit over the years.

>>6815246

What's wrong with men who write sci-fi you tumblrite sjw whore?

>>6815267
I'm constantly rereading and revising my work, but a fresh eye can catch things missed by the author. And yeah, this place can be terrible at times, but all I need is that one person who knows what they're talking about.
Besides, nobody forces you to act on the advice given, just to consider it.

>>6815277
>>6815286
Will check them out, thanks.

>>6815288
Nothing, I read men just looking for some variety.

>>6815246
James Tiptree Jr was a woman writing under a man's name. Try pic related

>>6815296

I head tumblr has a nice section with people who are bored of "White males" and add lgbtq and women as authors for "diversity"

Why don't you fuck off back there and leave 4chan yeah?

>>6815301
grow up dude

>>6815326

Scared people will call up on your bullshit? Is that why you're containing your ideology? Cockwhore

Fuck off 4chan.

Or better yet kill yourself

>>6815326
You won't be telling people to grow up when mandatory Abortion Booths stand at every gas station and children are forced to watch gay porn in Junior High Health 101 so they can understand "how the other side lives", you degenerate Jew-Whipped Sensitivity Sentry.

>>6815141
PoN and Malazan probably aren't. Haven't read Black Company.

Start with Tolkien then GRRM.

>>6815246
God's War by Kameron Hurley
Farseer Trilogy by Robin Hobb
The Anvil of the World by Kage Baker

>>6815326
You are being b8ed way too easily m8.

>>6815411
>>6815299
Thanks friends.

>>6815399
then the others?

>>6815665
Tolk -> GRRM -> Black Co -> PoN -> Malazan

How is the Unconsoled by kazuo ishiguro?

>>6815340
>people like this actually exist on 4chan

>>6814420
Is this good?
Anyone read it?
I have Seveneves to read after my current book, want to know if it's worth it.

>>6816744
hey /sffg/, is this a good magic system?

>"magic" is an emergent property of complex, low-energy magnetic interactions
>Any complex network of moving electrical charges can create "magic" but most aren't optimized for it
>Humans can only perform magic in a certain brainwave called the "Psi Wave." It's similar to the way xiaolin monks can inexplicably increase their own core temperature in freezing conditions or indian yogis can shut off their pain receptors
>Cats are constantly in the "phi wave" explaining their popularity among witches in historical times
>computers have only been capable of performing magic in the past few years, but their magic is weak
>a self-contained netowork is called an aura, or soul
>gods are complicated networks made up of thousands, millions, or billions of human auras
>Cities, the memory of famous figures, and highly symbolic words or objects may be indistinguishable from gods. All that really matters is awareness and strength thereof
>How magic can violate conservation of mass/energy/momentum is unknown but vigorously studied. The most common theory is that there is an unseen dimension that may have different potential energies allowing matter and energy to be moved between spaces with little effort

>>6817098
>Magic systems

Trashed

>>6817141
wow, magic is the shittiest part of the fantasy thread? good to know

>>6814516
If you hope to understand the vast majority of important plot lines and subject material, yes. It takes place ~300 years after the original trilogy.

>>6815141
Try Lloyd Alexander first. Then go on to mature stuff or just plain Swords & Sorcery, like Fritz Leiber.

>>6817098
>>6817098
On one hand, the idea itself sounds pretty cool, but on the other hand, I'm increasingly wary of attempts to "explain" magic in a way that fits into semi-hard science fiction.

The way I see it, the whole point of magic as a narrative device is that it's something unexplained and unexplainable, outside of the realm of scientific principles. I've found that when authors try to systematize magic, it either becomes so narrow that it's functionally interchangeable with the effects of technology, or the author pays little attention to the system after the initial exposition on it and uses it as a narrative device as if there was no system at all.

Magic is best depicted as spooky rituals and secret tomes of eldritch lore. If you want fantastic effects that are precise and readily reproducible, leave that to the super-science realm of rayguns/shield generators/etc.

Quick, I need something to read in SFF thats guaranteed to be a good fap

what have you guys got?

>One of those old school vampires with tons of powers who need to be killed harder and more violently than rasputin, and even then death is not assured
>only sunlight can truly kill them
>heroes manage to destroy the vampire's castle around him at sunrise
>suprise motherfuckers! he's wearing sunscreen

>>6815259
You write it yourself

Been trying to find some newer heroic fantasy if anyone has any recs in the vein of gemmell. Rereading dune again because I haven't found any new sff authors in awhile but also because I cant help it

>>6817478
Why dont you just post your goodreads or a list of what youve read so we can see youve already read and liked instead of blinding throwing out a bunch of shit

Fucks sake we're not mind readers

>>6817364
I agree with you, even though my own world completely defies all of those statements. I'm trying something where I'm deliberately taking a science fiction approach to fantasy conventions, in an attempt to allow the two perspectives to converse. This is to parallel the story's major theme of the dialog and relationship between the mortal world and divinity.

>>6812670
Forever War by Joe Haldeman is exactly about this.

Just got back into the Lost Fleet series (Jack Campbell) with Steadfast, not great so far.

Just finished:
The Library at Mount Char (Hawkins)
The Water Knife (Bacigalupi)
The Silver Box (Mosley)

is the NJO worth slogging through?

>>6817249
well shit

>>6817381
you have asked this in the past three threads
stop

>>6818053
Thoughts on those books?

>>6818604
Never heard of any of em m8

>>6818913
Thanks for that.

>>6817405
what if i'm not a writer and generally suck at putting ideas onto papper?

>>6812670
Hyperion deals with this in a few different ways.

>>6819569
You either
1. Practice it, and become a good writer
2. Deal with it, and stop whining

https://twitter.com/AwfulFantasy

>>6819782
This is truly unfunny.

>>6811732
more /lit/-related than all the philosophy bullshit threads

>>6817098

That just sounds like psionics. No reason to call it magic.

Is this thread just for already written fantasy books, or can we talk about things that we're creating and writing ourselves?

>>6820692
>can we talk about things that we're creating and writing ourselves?
You can, but if it's boring and shit nobody cares. And if it's really good nothing's stopping people from stealing your ideas. But most likely it'll just be boring and/or shit.

>>6820738
I was kind of just looking to through a loose idea and some characters out to get some reactions. It's just some thing I'm making up for fun, because I'm a man child and I like to play in my imagination

I've been making up what essentially amounts to OC fan fiction of Greek mythology this weekend. I have an obsessive passion for mythology, especially the philosophical and allegorical nature of it. I've done a great deal of research to craft a sort of comprehensive canon of all of these mythical lands and heroes, and this story I'm making up exists so I can go explore that world a little bit for fun. It's set in a mythological context rather than a historical one, so the world has a wildly different cosmology and structure. I've mostly been focusing on the characters, so the plot itself isn't full fleshed out yet, but these characters are starting to excite me.

It's set on the northern coast of Turkey along the Black Sea in Colchis, the land of the Golden Fleece in the Argonautica. It's an independent kingdom more reflective of civilizations of ancient times like Egypt and Babylon rather than Bronze age Greece. The first protagonist is a young mystic and prophet in the city who is visited by Apollo in the night and given a cryptic prophecy to fulfill. He's sent to find a fated warrior in the land of the Amazons, a neighboring city state, and become her spiritual guide and mentor. He has a perspicacious demeanor and a grandiose personality, but without being obnoxious. He's a detached manipulator who looks at the world around him and the people in it like they are his clay to shape.

The second protagonist is the fated Amazon warrior. She lives at her aunts constantly bustling estate with her cousins and servants who live in a small settlement of housing in the surrounding country side. She's a skilled athlete, but her true talent lies in her wit and intelligence. She has a proclivity for trickery, finding amusement in making others look like fools, and orchestrating conflict among others like it's a game. She has a light in her eyes others are drawn to, but she is a lazy and selfish woman who uses her intelligence decietfully so she can stay leisured

>>6820842
Besides the two main characters, I have several supporting characters that will eventually join them in their journey. With the mystic in Colchis, I have this young girl completely devoted to him, following in his wake everywhere. She comes from generations of servants, and was brought to Colchis to become an academic scholar. She is obsessively studious and organized, but lacks the intuition and mystic knowledge of her master. She handle his possessions and assists in his activities with great care, fully dedicating her mind to the task. She is essentially his Igor.

For the Amazonian warrior, I created what amounts to essentially a Gary Oak style rival. She is an exceptionally large woman even amongst Amazons, and has in recent months returned to her homeland after participating in the Olympics across the sea where she became a champion chariot racer. She has adopted a very Bronze age Greek fashion style, having extravagant clothing an armor she received as gifts. She's a gregarious woman who surrounds herself with friends and sycophants who are enamored by her worldly and traveled presence. When she visits our fated warriors estate, she can't help but try to make her into a fool in front of everyone. Their rivalry eventually turns into a friendship, and she joins them on their journey.

Third among them is a Thracian, which I have envisioned as a proto Viking culture of sea raiders from the southern shore of Eastern Europe, around modern day Bulgaria. As of now, he's more of a plot device than a character, but interesting none the less. They find him the lone survivor on his long ship, all of his comrades nowhere to be found. His ship is found washed up on shore I the fog where he is asleep. When woken, he answers indirectly, with a distant thousand yard stare like he's seen something he couldn't accept. He's essentially based on One Eye from Valhalla Rising. With his ship, they further their travels and head to Troy.

>>6820842
>>6820846
It's basically supposed to be like a rule 63 reversal of the relationship between Jason and Medea, where the mystic from Colchis is the otherworldly guide who channels the will of the Gods, and the Amazonian warrior is the Odyssean trickster and instigator who gets on the rise and fall roller coaster of greatness and hubris.

I want it to be a very classic hero myth, as I feel like they don't really exist anymore

I'm thinking of taking sci-fi fantasy courses at my uni and I'm wondering if anyone else has ever taken a similar course at their school. I never read much of this stuff before, and I'm thinking that taking classes on it could enhance my appreciation for it just as it did for general literature in previous lit classes.

Anyway, how are these reading lists?
>Harry Potter
Yeah, I know, but maybe during the class I'll recognize its genius?

>>6817381
Anita Blake

>>6820868
What exactly do you think you'd get from that class that you can't get on your own?

>>6820868
Seeing as it's a university class, I would assume Harry Potter is in there because of how influential it was on the creation of the YA sci-fi/fantasy genre, not because it's a really great book in and of itself.

>>6820949

I'm terrible at figuring things out for my own, so I imagine a lot.

>>6820958
Why are you even interested in the genre of you struggle to understand it? Usually an intuitive understanding of something is what fuels interest.

I just think the class is a bad idea anon.

>>6820956

My uni actually has a course devoted to Harry Potter. It's popular, I hear.

>The wildly successful Harry Potter series has been noted for its capacity to cross traditional boundaries. Conventional wisdom claims that young girls won’t read a book with a male protagonist and young boys won’t read a book by a female author, yet Harry Potter has found an enthusiastic readership among children of both sexes. Age boundaries have proven to be equally elastic; the popularity of the series among adults has even prompted the creation of an adult-friendly edition of the series with dark cover art suitable for reading on public transportation. The flexibility of the series may relate to its roots in a wide variety of genres including the gothic novel, detective fiction, fantasy, adventure, and even the dystopian novel. This course will examine the Harry Potter series in relation to all these genres. We will read all seven books alongside other novels and short stories that illustrate the generic conventions Rowling is working with. There will also be opportunity to consider the translation of the series into film.

>>6820995
>Why are you even interested in the genre of you struggle to understand it?

I never said I strugged to understand it. I just said I haven't read much of it. I have read and enjoyed Lord of the Rings and The Left Hand of Darkness. I'm just saying that I could appreciate it better with the course.

>>6821018
What is it exactly do you think you'll learn to appreciate that you didn't before?

>>6821037

Apreciate the books and genre better. I can learn about contexts and themes with more direction and depth than I can on my own. I haven't taken the class before, so I don't know how it's exaclt going to go. I was asking if /lit/ has taken similar classes so I can know.

>>6815331
projecting

How many books do you guys think it takes to be "well-read" in either SF or Fantasy?

For anyone that's read Joe Abercrombie's stuff.

I've just reread The First Law . I don't want to reread Best Served Cold because I remember it being crap but don't really remember the plot or characters.

Should I force myself to read Best Served Cold before The Heroes? Or will I be ok without?

>>6821481
Wait, does Best Served Cold take place before Heroes?

Ive had Heroes on my shelf for a long time, was planning on reading it soon but I thought it was next in the series

Best Served Cold is before The Heroes.

I really don't want to have to read it again lol.

>>6821481
>Or will I be ok without?

Yea, why bother. I agree BSC is shit. The Heroes is great, just go with that.

>>6817381
a 15 year old gets raped (but enjoys it) in Snow Crash

Guys, can anyone recommend something to read in the vein of Haldeman's Forever War?

>>6821704
For something "new" and a bit trashy try Scalzi's Old Man's War
For older military SF try Steakley's Armor

>>6821716
>try Scalzi's


No thanks, he Orson Scott Carded himself to me

>>6821481

Figure that, I absolutely loved best served cold

In any case, only two things are vital to know, that which happens to Shivers and that which happens in Cardotti's house of please

If you remember that, you're good

>What SF/F books are you currently reading?
I'm re-reading Robert E. Howard's King Kull and Solomon Kane stories.

Hopefully they'll help me as I work on my own stories. Probably not, but a man can dream.

>>6821716
>>6822300
>Scalzi's
Lock in was a great book
Fuck you

>>6820842
>>6820846
I like it.

>>6820868
The Last Unicorn is great. Haven't read any of the others apart from Tolkien.

>>6822300
What does this mean

>>6821481
I loved Best Served Cold. In my opinion Abercrombie peaked with those three books from Last Argument of Kings to The Heroes. I'm sure you'll be okay to skip it, though.

>>6822640
Weird, I thought Argument was the weakest of First Law and BSC was the weakest of the ones after it

Going to be reading "Bowl of Heaven" here in a while, it'll probably suck, but seeing as how we won't be getting anymore books about the Ringworld, it's probably my best bet.

>>6822657
>I thought Argument was the weakest of First Law
Damn nigga. I have never seen that opinion before.

I thought the First Law trilogy improved exponentially each book - both in terms of the story and the actual prose. The last 100 pages or so of LAoK were particularly great.

did i dun goofed?

>>6823011
They basically made everything that came before it completely meaningless

>>6823222
I could not disagree more tbh. I loved it.

>>6823245
Logan goes through huge character growth for 2 and a half books and then its all just thrown out and he goes back to what he was

Whats the point?

Not to mention the chick had the laziest ending ever. Completely static character. Glotka had a sickening case of author's pet. Jezal was the only one who I felt got a powerful story arc from start to finish without dropping the ball. The last scenes with him and Bayaz were easily the best part of the series but not enough to overwrite the rest

>>6823295
Logen's character growth was a lie. He was trying to convince himself and everyone else that he was actually a good person, blaming Bethod when Logen himself was much worse. By the end of the last book he's constantly putting himself intentionally in situations where the Bloody-Nine comes out, and ends up killing one of his friends because of it.

I agree that Glotka is an author's pet and, while I did enjoy his character and plot, he's overrated. Cosca in BSC was better.

Just finished Blindsight by Peter Watts and am currently reading The Neverending Story.

Fuck Blindsight, and fuck the anon who recommended it me. May an angry camel shit on his living brain.

>>6813393
No. Unless you like fiction of men with minds of teenage Marxists.

>>6821009
Sorry to break it to you but your university is trash. Bottom of the barrel.
> Conventional wisdom claims that young girls won’t read a book with a male protagonist and young boys won’t read a book by a female author

I'm not sure how these morons got the job at the university, but this claim is moronic. Earthesea, The Hobbit, Alice in wonderland, fairly tales in general.

>yet Harry Potter has found an enthusiastic readership among children of both sexes.

Like all of the above?

>Age boundaries have proven to be equally elastic; the popularity of the series among adults has even prompted the creation of an adult-friendly edition of the series with dark cover art suitable for reading on public transportation.

>creation of covers suitable for public transport
Hbgfsjgdybjgfscvhtdsfhkkgxssdcblgddvbjjdsfvvbh
Holy fucking shit women truly have ruined literature courses


>The flexibility of the series may relate to its roots in a wide variety of genres including the gothic novel, detective fiction, fantasy, adventure, and even the dystopian novel. This course will examine the Harry Potter series in relation to all these genres.

Examining a book because of genre. So. I was wrong. The division isn't on good and bad books, but also in lit memes.
Fuck me anon, but actually being a colleague to one of these morons is horrible, I'm sorry for your loss.

>>6822618
Scalzi is one of the worst authors in SF. He is barely above fan fiction.

>>6823577
>>6823581
>I'm an opinionated ass

>>6824179
>I'm a fucking pleb

>>6817147
Fantasy != magic

>>6821071
Just read, man. You dont need a class for that.

>>6812670

The Foundation series has elements of this.

H Y P E
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>>6811689
What are some good post-apocalyptic books like Metro 2033?

This is a nice general. I appreciate the recommendations put into the OP via charts. I'm trying to ease myself back into reading over the past few months, and I believe this is just the kind of place I was looking for. I believe I lean toward Sci-Fi quite a bit more than Fantasy, but I do enjoy both.

I just finished reading the Omega Force series by Joshua Dalzelle. Before that I read up to book 6 of the Sword of Truth series (Faith of the Fallen), Red Rising & Golden Son, The Wretched of Muirwood trilogy, and Ender's Game before those.

Based on what I saw in the OP charts, and then filtering that by what I could find via Kindle, I believe I'll be reading The Forever War next. I've earmarked a few others such as Magician, Dragon Prince, Tau Zero, and Hyperion, however.

I just wanted to say thank you all for the recommendations. I'm not an especially picky reader, and I'm sure I'll enjoy most of these quite a bit.

>>6824991
Tau Zero is great sci-fi.
Hyperion blows after the first book.

>>6824955
I hope you enjoy Mormonism and bad writing

>>6824955
>hyping for book 1
>not book 3

>>6825220
>caring about the author

Can you recommend me any good sci fi in which main character is transported to another world? In would be ideal if it would be world in medieval era.

>>6825767

Connie Williams - Doomsday Book

Hugo and Nebula winner. It's about time travelling historians.

>>6825767
The Wizard Knight

>>6812518
What do you like about them? Honestly curious, they are one of my least favorite houses. However, I do love their storyline.

>>6826313
I always identified more with the North than the other areas in the books (I am from a Nordic country). And the most prominent houses there are:
Starks
>all incompetent and got themselves killed or are somewhere away being irrelevant at the moment
Manderlys
>have delicious pie recipes but are still at their roots fat southeners
Karstarks
>cunts
Umbers
>big guys for you
Mormonts
>Jorah the Friendzone
and
Boltons
>ancient house ruled by kings in the past, on a par with Starks, whom they made cloaks of
>those icy eyes that mark a true Bolton, rumours of being descended from the Night's King
>keeping up their macabre traditions despite of Starks wagging their fingers at them
>Roose is a pretty cool guy, kills Robb and doesn't afraid of anything
>Ramsay is just pure evil, and though his character is shallow I just like his way of doing things
I dunno, I love their storyline too. Don't know much about their past or other members of the house, except for Domeric who was perfect in every way. But anyway, I always somehow find myself siding with the bad guys. Boltons are all bad guys, but even with only two members they have variety with the cool calculative Roose and chaotic evil Ramsay. And since I like them both it's easy to name them my favourite house, what with all the other houses having the following problems
>one or two members are cool, but rest are shit
>a house used to be cool, but turned shit (I'm looking at ye Targs)
>only know one member of a house really, so don't wanna make assumptions / character doesn't belong to a house
My second favourite house is Greyjoys, though Reek and Asha are shit and boring. I like Euron, Vic and Aeron though. Yes, even Aeron, and I know Vic is dumb but he's one of the most entertaining characters. And pirates are always cool so Euron is the best of all, even if he fiddled Aeron when he was a kid. Now I don't even remember what I was replying to so I guess it's time to stop writing.

>>6825767
The Black Knight

>>6824991
Yeah I would like charts for less popular stuff (non classics of the genre etc)

and also stuff from 1990-2015

Just finished The Devil in a Forest by Gene Wolfe, and it was absolutely great. The historical aspects, the setting and the people and their beliefs, were very compelling, and Wat has to be one of my favourite characters ever.

>>6825767
Not medieval but "In Other Worlds" by A.A. Attanasio might interest you.

>>6827031
I've wanted to make a new chart/update that old one for a long time since I felt like it has too much of an emphasis on older stuff but I simply don't feel like I'm well-read enough in the genre to do it yet.

It's funny I've been reading far more than ever this year, Ive read more in just the first half than any entire year before, and yet I feel even more unhappy with where I'm at than ever before. Its like no how matter how much I read there's always another essential book or series out there that I haven't experienced and for every book I complete 2 more go on the to-read list. Hell, I haven't even got to Wolfe yet because I keep putting it off thinking I'm not ready

Using Goodreads has made me read more than ever before but it also makes me feel insignificant and second guess myself a lot

>>6827141
Book of the new sun was one of the first sci fi books I read, and I didnt read much before either, you should be fine.

It's kinda hard for me to pick books that arent considered classics, I don't really have any besides a wh40k book that I got because I like the lore of that.

Any suggestions for an epic fantasy with a decent romance plot?

Tried to read good kinds sword of truth but his writing was fucking terrible. Other than that I've read almost nothing

I'm sad and lonely

>>6827423
>epic with decent romance plot
I'm not sure it's possible to do both. Those are inherently opposed.

>>6827467
>>6827423
To do both well, that is.

>>6827423
Kingkiller Chronicles (we've all known a Denna)

>>6827423
I don't think there's many. I'll give Black Company as a surprise rec

I certainly wasn't expecting any sort of romance going in and it's probably not for everyone, but I found the romance subplot in it to be really well done

>>6827777
Disregard this

Easily the worst part of the books. Beta white knight stumbling is not good romance

>that feel when I feel like I've read everything fantasy that might interest me anymore

I know I haven't, but goodread automatic recommendations keep throwing me either stuff I've already read or garbage. Is there a better way to find a new book?

>>6828496
No, goodreads automatic recommendations are the only way.

>>6827777
Just because the MC bragged about it doesn't mean he succeeded. It just wasn't working out with Denna and he spends the whole series trying to convince himself that she isn't capable of more and that he's done well for getting as far as he did. Ugh, i'm sure /r9k/ can relate.
I've never read anything that required you to disregard the opinion of the narrator more. It's certainly one of the biggest weaknesses of the story.
That said they're great books.

>>6828666
The biggest weakness is basic prose, absolute lack of well written characters, poor setting for a fantasy novel, plot structure of a manchilds self insert fan fiction.
The novel is bottom of the barrel garbage, one of the worst books I have ever read. It has less to offer than a novel in the fucking Horus Heresy series. If I hated someone or just saw him as an idiot this would be the book to recommend.

>>6827106
How does it compare to his other fiction?

>>6828731
Pisses people act like he's the next Tolkien or Gene Wolfe because he uses a few flowery words.

>>6828731
>absolute lack of well written characters
Auri. Devi. Elodin.
>poor setting for a fantasy novel
but it's just like Fable. I loved Fable.
Personally I would prefer if places were mentioned before they were visited because it makes the world seem bigger and less "I'm making it up as I go along" but it's otherwise quite good.
>plot structure of a manchilds self insert
I like a fallible narrator. It means I can be surprised and that I can better follow an event caused by misunderstanding or mistake.

>>6827106
Damn, you just reminded me, I've got to put that on my list. I've read 15 of the guy's books and I'm STILL nowhere near the end of his good stuff. Its ridiculous.

>>682884
>Auri. Devi. Elodin.

I'm assuming it's the second novel since there were none in the first. And writing 700 pages of vapid garbage made me not want to read beyond that.

>but it's just like Fable. I loved Fable.

Fable is not a very good game and it would hardly work well in a novel.

>Personally I would prefer if places were mentioned before they were visited because it makes the world seem bigger and less "I'm making it up as I go along" but it's otherwise quite good.

I don't mind a lack of epicness or size or even huge complexity. It's just the absolute lack of imagination. He doesn't even have small details that would make it seem better.

>I like a fallible narrator.

So do I. But there is a difference between something which has no depth or where the narrator doesn't add anything, he removes from the novel and Wolfe where it adds a number of layers to the whole thing.
>hur dur writing 2+ books about a huge manchild without adding any depth or meaning or imagination or creativeness was a huge ruse because I was only pretending to be retarded

>It means I can be surprised and that I can better follow an event caused by misunderstanding or mistake.

There are infinitely better ways to do that. Writing a self insert fanfic is one of the worst I can think of.

>>6828797
Oh he uses a lot of flowery words. John Williams uses almost none and his prose is leagues away from Rothfuss. Writing good prose isn't just in making it flowery.

>>6828753
I've only read this and The Book of the New Sun. TBotNS is much, much more complex, and The Devil in a Forest is just 208 pages anyway.

I used to think peasants are boring and it's all about the knights and wars and stuff, but this book has to be the best (as in most entertaining) description of life in a remote medieval village. If you love medieval Europe I'd say this won't disappoint you, but if you're not into that then I dunno. And did I say how much I love Wat already, hands down the coolest guy ever.

>>6829272
Well for a relatively short novel it sounds promising.

>>6825767
John Carter of Mars maybe?

>>6826826
Top kek

>>6825767
He's catapulted into the future and through mind transfer but still a good read of people stranded in time

PATRICK ROTHFUSS!

No one has mentioned him yet so thought I better.

>>6831029
>inb4 the shitstorm

I think The Name of the Wind was great though the sequel was shit, but most people here absolutely hate Rothfuss.

what are some good fantasy books that deal with tradesmen between the colonial era and the roaring 20s? I loved the Golem and the Jinni and Feavre Dream but I haven't found anything else that fascinating since then

>>6831067
He has been mentioned and is absolute trash garbage.

>>6831102
I know and that's what I was saying, see
>most people here absolutely hate Rothfuss

>>6811689
I just read an amateur effort ebook that I got from amazon, Primarius one or some such shit. Pretty much just a rip off of World War Z, except far less annoying. Actually enjoyed it a lot but I'm pretty sure that might be because I'm literally autistic.

>buy a book that looks good off the shelf at B&N
>blaze through the first four chapters
>look it up when I get home because I enjoy it so much
>Genres: Children's literature

I feel like a such a mongoloid

>>6832610
Don't worry about it bro, enjoyment is enjoyment. Anyone who gives you shit about liking something that harms nobody isn't worth listening to.

>>6832610
It's possible for children's/YA books to be good. The Last Unicorn by Peter S. Beagle is a GOAT fantasy novel. It's also possible that this book is shit and you are indeed a mongoloid. I have never heard of it tbh.

>>6832688
The reviews I see online are only slightly favorable, but then again I am known for having shit taste. I have put down such classics as neverwhere, johnathan strange & mr norrel, the yiddish policeman's union, and snow crash and with the possible exception of TYPU I don't intend to pick any of them up again

>>6819753

what a rude fucking cunt you are

Why the fuck did I like Neptune's Brood so much

Can you guys recommend me any transhuman near-space novels?

>>6832610
Is pic related?

>>6833018
yes

Is Forever Peace any good?

So I'm reading Dune and I just got to the part where Count Fenring and his wife are discussing having her get impregnated by Feyd-Rautha.

Just, what the fuck. I cant believe thats a plot point.

>>6833374
the count is a eunich, and a bene gesserit pawn, as is his wife. he's a total cuck as a result, and it's all for the bene gesserit breeding program

>>6833374
That book is insane, I loved it. Please read the sequel.

>>6833384
>>6833392
>Space Cucking

Not even finished yet but I already love this book very much.

I just read my first Lem book - the Cyberiad - and it was bloody fantastic. Please accept my apologies Lemmings, because up to this point I always thought you were annoying in your effusiveness of him.

>>6831029
See here
>>6828920
>>6828841
>>6828731
>>6828666
>>6827777
>>6827777

Fantasy and Sci-Fi should have their own separate threads. That being said, why is this motherfucker so obsessed with romances between protag/antag and the like? It drove Black Company to the ground and he plotted it straight away into Dread Empire.

>>6834142
>Fantasy and Sci-Fi should have their own separate threads
It would be too slow, it would 404 before bump limits. And some popular stuff like TBotNS is kinda both.

>>6834176
Black Company alone used to have 300+ replies thread

If it sinks make another one.

>>6834142
>Croaker/Lady drove BC to the ground

Oh get the fuck out you pleb

>>6834211
That and the whole India plot.

>>6834246
Japan was more annoying than India

Croaker/Lady was fantastic in the first trilogy, perhaps even the best part. For the later books it wasn't even present that much, to act it dragged the series down is ridiculous.

Bleak Seasons being pretty shit and the constant capture and escape of important people who should've been killed immediately were the things dragging it down. Still one of the best fantasy series to date though

>>6834142
Too much crossover between the genres. There's a reason they have a joint section at book stores.

>>6834290
I quit at book 7 having failed to understand most of book 6. I think that book 1 is a masterpiece, 2 and 3 are good and there's a drop off after that. Heck, he even ruined Darling and Raven with shitty romance.

>>6834142
so scifi plebs can pretend to be cool
do it. then maybe we can talk about non-epic fantasy

>>6821577

Its not really rape. I mean, she wants it from the start and never protests.

>>6834320
Which is what? magic in modern cities and vampires?

>>6811689
>ATREIDES STRONK edition
Atreides a shit. It's their fault that the thinking machines weren't wiped out in the first place.
Harkonnens were ready to do what was needed. Atreides scum are weak.

>>6834320
We can talk about that here m8, go right ahead.

>>6814457
Not the best writer but that series is fun as hell

What's the most complete way to read Black Company? I was looking through kindle editions and its way more confusing than it should be with its compendiums and editions.
What is the "first" omnibus or trilogy?

>>6834504
for sure brother

>>6835749
Interesting as fuck

>>6834327
>Its not really rape. I mean, she wants it from the start and never protests.

if a girl doesn't verbally consent, its rape.

>>6835863
>if a girl doesn't verbally consent, its rape.

I do understand that not giving verbal consent before having sex often leads to rape, but not having explicit verbal consent doesn't imply that the sex is rape. Sex isn't that transnational in reality, where you have two parties explicitly stating which sexual acts to want to perform.

>>6835948
Interesting as fuck

Is The Book of the New Sun any good? All strange words aside.

>>6835959
yes

>>6836016
What makes it good in your opinion?

>>6836088
When I think of what I didn't like in it, I can't think of anything. So listing what makes it good would take too much effort. Just read it. If you're already interested in reading it, why do you need to come here to ask about it?

>>6836131
If its actually bad then I won't regret wasting my money on it. I'll buy the books probably.

>>6836131
Interesting as fuck

Just got an email from AbeBooks with their 50 essential scifi books list. I don't really care that much, wish they'd done fantasy. But thought to share if someone's interested.

http://www.abebooks.com/books/features/50-essential-science-fiction-books.shtml?cm_mmc=nl-_-nl-_-CPftb04-h00-MVsifiAM-_-01cta&abersp=1

>>6836419
>http://www.abebooks.com/books/features/50-essential-science-fiction-books.shtml?cm_mmc=nl-_-nl-_-CPftb04-h00-MVsifiAM-_-01cta&abersp=1

>Foundation

It's a great book but you have to read the whole series (13 books(?)) otherwise miss out on a ton of material and most of the stuff doesn't make sense.

>>6836437
You could have just read the text above
>Here are the criteria I used. One book per author, so that was hard on the big three of science fiction – Robert Heinlein, Isaac Asimov and Arthur C Clarke

I'm currently reading the Martian Chronicles, which shouldn't take too long, then I'm looking to start some fantasy. I'm eyeing The Face in the Frost, any other stuff I should check out?

>>6836465
Why isnt PKD considered one of the big-whatever

>>6836419
Are things like war of the worlds and joules verne worth reading as an adult?

Who ever is making the next Thread can use this
pic related

>>6836789
>top 100 fantasy series
>2. Harry Potter
>3. Twilight saga

no

>>6836789
>Top 100 Scifi Books
>1. Enders Game
Come on. I love that book, but it's not the best Scifi book ever written.

>>6834311
Bleak Seasons was pretty shit as I said, it wasn't THAT hard to understand though. I think you should try to plow through the Murgen books and at least finish the series. The narrators after him are much more enjoyable and the series gets a good ending

>>6835749
You read Chronicles of the Black Company first

Theres omnibuses for the whole series, just read them in order. On the second one though make sure you read Silver Spike first (its put last because its a offshoot that was made later but flows better to read it first)

>>6836748
Up to you

I'm nearing my mid 20s and I still greatly enjoyed some books that most people read as teenagers like Catcher in the Rye and Norwegian Wood. While others like Fahrenheit 451 and Wizard of Earthsea would've been totally different experiences if I read them earlier

If you have a open mind going in I think you can read anything, it might not mean as much to you as a jaded adult though.

>>6836789
Come on. I read Ender's Game and nearly fell asleep.

Droll, poor pacing, weird focus on naked children.
The best parts are those in the battle room and back on Earth.

>>6836789
>winnie the pooh

lol what

>>6836893
>>6836823

I expected ender's game to be much worse than it was because of popularity/crappy name. I enjoyed reading it and kept reading it non stop.

The twist in the end felt forced or maybe not totally right but on the other hand it felt like I was feeling the same dissociation ender was supposed to be feeling, not being sure what's real and in a state of underwhelmed shock.

But overall it was a cool book.

>>6836838
I might do that, reading Dread Empire currently, it's fun enough.

>>6832166
thanks for telling us

>>6834577
>reading anything that wasn't done by Frank Herbert

it's not canon

>>6836951
>>6836924
>>6836893
>>6836823
>>6836807
That Pic is OLD you know.
I grabbed it from a 2013 thread, and it it existed before that.
I just wanted everyone to list what they read from it.

>>6837242
>I just wanted everyone to list what they read from it.
You never said that, just that next OP should use your shitty list.

>>6837076
I do want to read that, I need a break from Cook after TBC though.

I've heard praise for it so I'm surprised by how little recognition it has.

>What SF/F books are you currently reading?
Kinslayer, I figure I've read enough Gotrek and Felix books over the years that it's about time that I see it through to the end.

>Who are your favorite /sff/ Family or House?
House Aspic of Maui-Covenant.

>>6811689
>What SF/F books are you currently reading?
I actually need advice on this. My next few options involved
>Night Lords trilogy which I'm one chapter into
>Coldfire trilogy
>Otherland
I'm really into hard sci-fi lately so anything like that would influence my decision.

>Who are your favorite /sff/ Family or House?
Shit. I don't really have one. I think I remember Sabriel and her Abhorsen master having an okay enough relationship for what it signified. I should really reread those now that I'm grown up. I really like Knights Radiant purely for the term. It sounds smooth and rather badass, really.

>>6836789
>World War Z
>fantasy

>>6837255
>my list
>implying I made it

>>6837851
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on Coldfire.

Any good foreign sci-fi? I've been interested in this area considering there's nothing but British and American stuff on the charts, particularly Japanese science fiction I'm looking to read, I'm also surprised there's no Capek on the charts considering he practically invented the word "Robot".

>>6839447
I'd say Stanislaw Lem made the best "foreign" SF, get Solaris as an intro to his motives. The Strugatsky Brothers are famous too but I hated the tone in the novels, very dry, possibly a translation issue.

For Germans, Ernst Jünger (famous for Storm Of Steel) wrote a bit of SF, see The Glass Bees. Wolfgang Jeschke was successful once, get The Last Day Of Creation.
I also read Dietmar Dath, he's fairly famous now, but too pretentious for me.

For Chinese SF, Liu Cixin has been extremely successful, I only read The Three-Body Problem, some interesting physics, nothing groundbreaking as a novel, but interesting to have the "Chinese perspective" with cultural revolution etc.

>>6839447
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannu_Rajaniemi

Never read anything by him but he's the only Finnish scifi author I know of. He writes in English though which should be good because you don't need to read translations. I know someone who read the Jean le Flambeur series in Finnish and thought they were good.

>>6840566
anon from >>6839458

I've read The Quantum Thief by Rajaniemi, the first in the Jean series. It's very nice, but also extremely opaque - he drops you off in the deep end of a far-away future and gives you only little hints of the world you're reading about, no infodumps, no helping hands. If you read it and get frustrated, IIRC it becomes more clear after the first quarter or so.

>>6812907
This. The first book in the series is probably my favorite sci-fi book ever to be honest.

Should I read The Grace of Kings even if I'm not usually a fan of epic fantasy? I like Game of Thrones but that's about it

To all the fucking plebs in here salivating on the dick of Patrick Rothfuss and Brandon Sanderson please kill yourselves immediately
Sanderson is ok in a generic fantasy way but Rothfuss sucks the books and his characters are fanfic tier with a unrelatable mary sue protag. I'm actually rooting for him to die.

>>6841624
>what are commas and pauses

>>6840956
What made the first book stand out so much to you?

>>6841624
I think there's been like 1 positive post about Rothfuss in this whole thread.

>>6837851
I'd recommend Coldfire.

>>6841624
>and Brandon Sanderson
We hadn't done that yet.
Sanderson is a gun. First draft, only draft. 1000 words per minute.

Whats are your guys' opinion on Wheel of Time? Worth going all the way through?

>>6841624
>Sanderson is ok in a generic fantasy way
Not even, he didn't even have the dignity to churn out lovable pastiche like Eddings. Sanderson is fantasy writing for people who think Assassin's Creed and World of Warcraft lore are deep. I tried to listen to Way of Kings, couldn't get past the first chapter it was so obviously preening for a vidya adaptation. The assassin character with left-click and right-click physics abilities and a mana bar, jesus.

>>6843752
Personally, no. The early books in the series are okay (nothing special) but he loses his way about 6 or so books in.

>>6843766
>the new generations of Fantasy writers will be taking inspiration from Sandersons vidya and capeshit inspired writing

Fantasy is dead

>>6843766
Warcraft lore is moderately deep though isn't it?

>>6843960
Deep like it has depths, not deep like it has depth

>>6843766
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that caught that. I was reading a fight sequence and the descriptions were made to be adapted for a shitty CGI movie sequence it didn't read well at all.

>>6843974
As in philosophical implications or moral meaning?

Brandon "Violence is a-ok but sexuality is icky and bad" Sanderson?

>>6844591
Literally nothing wrong with that

>>6824955
ive always loved that cover

Read this yesterday.
Closest things I can think of would be Paolo Bacigalupi's short stories about genetic crops in anime movie form, except without Bacigalupi's omnipresent despair and ruination.

Certainly the best from Haikasoru I've read.

Contains
>Blame Linux
>Blame Open Source
>Open Source is the Best
>Augmented Reality is the Best
>Google killed the Internet
>New internet requires ID, no anonymity
>Anonymous
etc etc etc

Fun read.
No, this isn't a light novel.

>>6845130
I didn't notice this, but here's a discussion between Paolo Bacigalupi and Taiyo Fujii. I guess it was a more apt comparison than I thought. Should have looked first.

http://www.haikasoru.com/science-fiction/windup-mapper-a-conversation-with-paolo-bacigalupi-and-taiyo-fujii/

>>6843405
I like Rothfuss and Sanderson.

I think the dislike of them on this board is mainly down to the pseudo-intelligent autist from /b/ overflow demographic, that automatically has to hate anything other people find popular.

>>6844208
Depths like you can keep going further into it, not depth like it has philosophical implications or moral meaning

>>6845515
Post anything interesting or even plausible about Sanderson's setting or characters.

What's some good sci fi or fantasy to read with your semen demon?

>>6845542
>Interesting
Subjective

>Plausible fantasy
What?

What are some good Pirate/Loveable Rogue/Swashbucklan books/series /sff/?

need some inspiration for a D&D campaign

>>6845683
>What?
Verisimilitude. Details that ground the reader in the characters' experience. Plausibility doesn't mean nonfiction, it means the world seems like it could work.
>lol if you have dragons why can't you have blah blah blah
Because the reader shouldn't have to learn a whole dictionary of new proper nouns like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stormlight_Archive#Concepts
with no parallels in real life to understand your book if it can work without them. If I wanted the Monster Manual, I'd play DnD.

>>6845747
>Because the reader shouldn't have to learn a whole dictionary of new proper nouns like
git gud

>>6845763
Putting aside that all the names Sanderson comes up with sound like WoW

>>6845747
Didn't Sanderson come up with a bunch of retarded, fictitious swears for his books because he's afraid to have his characters say naughty words?

>>6845747
>Windrunners
>Skybreakers
>Dustbringers
>Edgedancers
>Truthwatchers
>Lightweavers
>Elsecallers
>Willshapers
>Stonewards
>Bondsmiths
>Shardblades and Shardplate
>Soulcasting and Shadesmar
>Surgebinding
>Voidbringers

It's like he wanted a a job writing vidya or RPG settings and couldn't get one, so he decided books were his next best bet.

>people like Reddit Sanderson
W H Y

>>6817098
"MUH MAGIC SYSTEM" is retarded, and it's why hacks like Brandon Sanderson somehow get praise, because autists think a book showcasing some stupid-ass system is somehow what makes fantasy good, rather than memorable characters, evocative settings, and engaging storytelling.

Fantasy is such a cancerous cesspool because of shits like you. Kill yourself.

>>6847237
>memorable characters, evocative settings, and engaging storytelling
If fantasy authors were any good at those, they'd be writing literary fiction, not fantasy.

>>6827777
>KKC
>Denna
>good
LOL
O
L

>>6847246
>>6845829

>>6847246
>contemporary literary fiction
>any of those three qualities being remotely constant
What's wrong with you

>>6847246
Tolkien, Lewis, Lovecraft, Howard, Wolfe, Vance, Lieber, Peake.

>>6845515
Nah, they their haters across the whole internet fantasy realm. It's definitely not just /lit/.

>>6847246
I hope you're just some /lit/ guy who popped in to say that one comment rather than an actual fantasy reader.

>>6847299
>any of those writers
>good

>>6845713
The Princess Bride if you haven't already read it
Gentlemen of the Road by Michael Chabon
The Lies of Locke Lamora by Scott Lynch

>>6845515
I own both of Rothfuss' Kingkiller novels and I honestly regret wasting money on these two pieces of pure putrid filth.

Your next line will be "You can't dislike them if you read them!"

How good is Outlander, it seems interesting.

What are some fantasy books with really good portrayals of battles?

>>6848214
Malazan Book of The Fallen.

I'm only a few books in but they are essentially one long running battle scene.

>>6848243
>High magic

No thanks

>>6848214
Black Company has a lot of it with actually planning out tactics and strategies.

>>6848214
Paul Kearney - The Ten Thousand
Prince of Nothing & Aspect-Emperor books by R. Scott Bakker

>>6845130

>>Google killed the Internet
>>New internet requires ID, no anonymity

Sounds like The Circle. Now there's a creepy fucking SF book (though I doubt the author or any literary critic would call it SF)

>>6848310

Is The Black Company any good? I bought all four omnibuses a couple of years ago, but I haven't touched anything fantasy-related since then.

I picked up Aurora the other day, it is on the top of the to read pile
Here is a nice video of Robinson explaining it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1-lE5i98M

I want to read some Heinlein. Should I read Stranger in a Strange Land or The Moon is a Harsh Mistress first? Or something else altogether?

>>6819569
this >>6817405 or find someone to co-write it with based on your outline
if you can't even outline it, then you don't really have it "in mind", do you?

>>6849246
I really loved Orphans of the Sky, but really anything he wrote is enjoyable.

I love this one!

>>6848310
What if Kaladin went on a ship
Attracted one of the great shells(the thing that is attached to that giant eyeball that looked at Miss "Muh Secrets")
Use his bind powers to bring it out of the water(lash it to the sky)
Then bonded it to some mountain(lashed it to some mountain)
Used his Blade to kill it and take it's heart
How big would that heart be?
What could they build with it?
Would Sprenfu leave him for killing it
Also if Sanderson at some point doesn't do some Deus ex Machina to make Syl flesh and blood so Kaladin could fuck her imma be pissed.

Also it's amazing Sun Sun(w/e it's spelt) learnt to do all those lashings without a Spren guiding him.

>>6849912
You enjoy black seed and gay butt sex?
I mean, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, puts on make up like a duck, has breast like a duck, and craves D like a duck, with a slot to insert my token, I will fuck it.

>tfw no qt skinspy gf who wants to be your sex slave

Why live?

>>6849953
You're mom!

Getting back into reading fantasy novels again after two years of comics.

Is Hobb's new Farseer book any good? Haven't read anything by Hobb since Warrior's Son trilogy disappointed me.

I gather Scott Lynch, Rothfuss, Abercrombie and Mark Lawrence stuff is still selling like hotcakes? None of those really captured my interest with heir debuts.

Is there anything in that recent influx of "Napoleonic", late gunpowder era fantasy that's actually good?

>>6850145
Strange and Norrel

Who are some good reviewers of Fantasy and Sci-Fi?

>>6850149
Read it when it debuted. been waiting for the sequel for over 10 years now.

>>6849945
>sex
>in a Brandon Sanderson book

Icky!

>>6836131
Narration style is pretty meh

>>6850177
He will find a way to put it over, probably subtly.

I thought Shallan was raped by her father, before the reveal, how he kept her in the house away from other people, his sons mad at him.

I thought after his wife died, she took over her mother's Wifely duties.

He is cleaver enough to put in a vague innuendo or double entendre, that with a sincere look of shock on his face that you would even think such thoughts say: "No, it wasn't sex, it was "z", but deep down he would be smirking, while fumbling with his fedora so he could pass out sweets to the class.

>>6850284 New thread here

>>6825767
Hard to Be a God is literally what you described

>tfw can't find The Judging Eye and White Luck Warrior in the same paperback format

Fucksake guys, I'm too poor to afford hardcover

>>6840613

I also highly recommend the Quantum Thief. I agree it can seem daunting at first, but it pays off in the end.

>>6825767
Try Lord Foul's Bane.

>>6836893
>Droll
Did you mean to use that word?

>>6836437
I think the core Foundation trilogy is plenty, I plan on reading the rest but I didn't feel like anything made no sense.

>>6843766
>listen

You think you can say that and have your opinion respected?

>>6849912

Still no news on the next book. I need it.