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So /lit/, I want to learn psychology and philosophy but I'm complete lost here. Where do I begin? What books can you recommend me?

>> No.6800785

Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand by Leonard Peikoff

>> No.6800793

>>6800776
I double major in those things.
>Philosophy
Start with Plato or Descartes. The Presocratics aren't that great. Descartes is best if you have a strong interest in the philosophy of mind. Plato is better to start with if you want a more classical understanding of philosophy.

>Psychology
Read Freud's introductory lectures before doing anything else. Then pick up a Psych 101 textbook and look into the subjects which most interest you. As for me it's Jung, but you might be attracted to existential psychotherapy.

>> No.6800808

>>6800776
Plato>Aristotle>Descartes meditations 1 and 2
Then whichever 19th century german philosophers tickle your fancy, I recommend Hegel and Stirner

As for psych, well, the more modern the better. It hasn't been handled well as a science until around the last twenty years, a lot of the old stuff is a mix of pseudoscience and somewhat accurate observations. I have no recs there because I'm a neurology major who doesn't care much for the field.

>> No.6800873

>>6800793

Oh, also, you'll be interested in the writings of William James and John Dewey.
Modern psychology is not the study of mind, it is merely the study of behavior and physiological changes. Keep that in mind.

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6801183

start with the greeks

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/edit

>>6800873
>American Pragmatism
lol no

>> No.6801215

So, /lit/, I signed up for a philosophy class in college looking for 101 basics stuff, instead what I got was a pragmatic/analytical circlejerk

So, does anyone know any good philosophy 101 textbook that'll get me an introduction to the various branches of philosophy (metaphysics, epistemology etc), and introduce chief ideas for big philosophers (Plato, Descartes, Kant, Marx, etc), and maybe give short outlines to different schools (existentialism, German idealism, etc)?

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6801238

>>6801215
Follow the guide >>6801183

Let yourself fall in love with knowledge. Read books. It's worth it.

If you're don't want to understand philosophy, you can always read about the philosophers from the guide on Wikipedia. (Don't do that. Follow the guide and read books.)

>> No.6801244

>>6801238
Fucking autocorrect. It's making me look even dumber than I already am.

You*

>> No.6801249

>>6801215

There are literally tons, most of them split thematically.

Instead of going by way of history of philosophy (which is the way most introductory college philosophy classes are taught) try and pick an introduction to the various branches of philosophy, such as Ethics, Metaphysics, Epistemology etc.

>> No.6801250

>>6800793
>Read Freud's introductory lectures before doing anything else.
Terrible advice tbh
Skip to
>pick up a Psych 101 textbook

>> No.6801255

>>6801250
lol

Start with Zizek and then continue with Lacan.

>> No.6801263

>>6801183

The problem with "Start with the Greeks" meme, is that most young students never acquire the interest to ask philsophical questions in the same way the pre-Socratic's asked.

In our modern day world, where metaphysical thinking is pre-ordained by science and social mores by media mimesis, interest in philsophical thinking just isn't there anymore or it's history.

This is why most textbooks start with Descrates, the foundation of science and reason in it's modern form, and not with Plato.

>> No.6801279

>>6801249
>There are literally tons
Yeah, I know. Recommend me a good one.

>>6801238
I was the one who posted that list anon. I've already "started" reading philosophy, but I want a textbook to know the fundamentals

>>6801263
I just like the Socratic method anon.