/lit/ - Literature

>>6786052
you don't have to read them if you don't want to

if you think they're boring you probably don't quite understand what is going on in their work. it's not just information

>>6786058
/thread

You get to namedrop them and get all the pussy.

>>6786052
>boring as fuck
>HURR
>gobbledygook
>REALLY
>tell me why as I preemptively insult them

Man, this writing style always triggers me.

>>6786058
literally this. what the hell is wrong with you op

Kant is outdated and has been debunked
Read him for concept of the sublime tho, which translates into fiction


People either love or hate Hegel, mostly hate nowadays

>>6786099
> debunked
more like the trend has shifted, remember, philosophy isn't a science, yet alone an exact one

>>6786104
How about I change it to: we have moved on from Kant

>>6786108
satisfactory.

>>6786099
Hegel was the greatest philosopher to ever live

>>6786052

Because if you had an ounce of knowledge about the notion of paradigm, and how to use ancient or remnant of ancient paradigms to work on your own system/study contemporary systems you would read them.
(Only Kant, fuck Hegayl).
Kan't isn't boring at all if you know how to read him, Pure Reason is clear but long, that's all, however, you can skip most parts by simply applying what your red in tdtl aesthetics and tdtl logic (the aperception and schematism parts must be red tho, they're ultra important).
If you're too much of a plebeian to read the second critic simply read the groundings.
The third critic is easily red because you only read the arts part.

>>6786052
>Give me a reason as to why I should read boring as fuck philosophers like Hegel and Kant?
>And don't give me the "HURR history of philosophy HURR" argument. If I want the history I'll read a summary if them, not torture myself with academic gobbledygook.
>Tell me, what would I REALLY get out of reading them?

Hegel isn't boring, you moron

>>6786400
Nor is Kant.

>>6786052

well, you could always read Spinoza if you are interested in truth :-).

>>6786052
well from Kant you could learn how to throw the ideal dinner party

>>6786052
>Give me a reason as to why I should read boring as fuck philosophers like Hegel and Kant?
>HURR history of philosophy HURR
>not torture myself with academic gobbledygook.
>Tell me, what would I REALLY get out of reading them?
Hows high school, OP?

>>6786052
>Tell me, what would I REALLY get out of reading them?
The origin of contemporary episteme according to Foucault.

>>6786104
>philosophy isn't a science
But muh Aquinas

>>6786052
I once read about two pages of Kant, the argumentation was flimsy as shit so I couldn't continue.

Hegel will teach you how to be a wizard.

>>6786099
'debunked'. it doesnt work like that

>>6787711
blah
>>6786271
fuck hegel - yes. hegel misread kant

What if everybody decided to not read Kant, what then OP?

>>6786052
You would be able to create a less retarded thread that would actually be worth something.

>>6788924
youre talking categorical imperatives

>>6786052
Now I have to know that a person like you exists? this is why I shouldn't come to /lit/.

Tried reading Kant (Groundwork and Prolegema) and suffered immensely. I don't know how something could handle hundreds of pages of that like in COPR. That's some willpower.

So when you're debating morals with plebs you can ask, "have you even READ Kant?"

>>6786052

If you are not serious about Philosophy then nothing. If you are then his ideas are going to pop up all over the place, and if you understand where these ideas are coming from you can realize where people are making unwarranted augmentations on his ideas or when they misinterpret it. If you are going to be in philosophical dialogue with Kantian you should know what Kant actually said.

>>6788924
subtle

>>6790542
>you can realize where people are making unwarranted augmentations on his ideas or when they misinterpret it.
you make philosophy sound like a HS debate club. posterior authors can expand on previous work and without the basics you just won't understand certain elements and think you're smarter than them because they didn't feel like explaining again basic reading.

>>6786052
You shouldn't not read them because they're boring, you shouldn't read them because they're German, and Germans have contributed nothing to philosophy.

>>6786052
Just don't.

>>6786076
So true.

> reading an entire book
> not just watching a youtube video which sums it up in 10minutes
plebs

>>6792402
You are so right... Hegel, Kant, Nietzsche, Heidegger, Schopenhauer. They are noting.

>>6786052
I want to give you one good reason, but I Kant

>>6786052
enlightment

>>6792437
Have you heard of Crash Course?

Hegal is important if you want to know what Marxism is about which is important if you want to know what the 20th century was about which is important if you want to know what the 21st century has been about so far which is important if you want to know how to not be a shitposter

>>6792445
i'm guessing you're a bait

>>6786099
Kant´s epistemology is still relevant.