/lit/ - Literature

>>6783350
sorry, as a musician and a writer I'm going to say that if you're reading while listening to music, you aren't even remotely fully absorbing either medium.

If the music you're listening to is intended to not distract you, that means you would be playing music that does not take your mind away from what you are reading whatsoever, in which case, why play any music at all? The same ends are accomplished with white noise or no sound.

You are also discrediting music as a medium by suggesting that it is something you turn on and pay no attention to. There is a lot you can learn from music, and it can influence and drive your thoughts, but it has little effect other than distraction when it comes to trying to interpret another person's thoughts on paper. Waste of what you're reading and what you're listening to simultaneously.

Can you make an argument as to how listening to music enhances reading in any way?

>>6783384
some theme-fitting background noise. Ever been to a barbecue where you are having an intelligent conversation with someone but the music is on in the background gently enhancing the mood.

Or are you one of those weird elitist twats that requires everybody to write a thesis on every single piece of media they consume for enjoyment?

comfy

I basically just listened to this on repeat while I read infinite jest.

https://youtu.be/BghE1s6uLGg

>>6783384
you clearly live in a place which doesn't have a premium on silence you fucking prick.
I listen to music in the background when reading to block otherwise much more chaotic, distracting sounds.

>>6783384
Why is it important to fully absorb anything, is this not subjective - death of the author and whatnot

also I can pretty much near-guarantee that both your music and your writing is absolute garbage

>>6783384
nigger no one gives a shit about "absorbing" mediums. go fuck off to /mu/ pleb fuck

>>6783384
gr8 b8 m8

>>6783384
I myself am both a musician and a writer as well. Listening to some fitting music while reading can enhance the mood you feel from either medium. This is pretty obvious in and of itself. Not everything needs to be consumed with 1000% focus. When you try to listen to music in public do you make a fuss to ensure no one or no object around you makes any distracting noise? When you watch a movie do you ensure that no light from any source but the screen can get to your eyes? It's nearly impossible to consume media in a perfect vacuum. Listening to music while reading accepts that fact and it can help you to focus.

sorry, as a musician and a filmmaker I'm going to say that if you're using music for your film, you wont be able to even remotely fully absorb either medium.

If the music you're listening to is intended to play along the video, that means you would be playing music that does not take your mind away from what you are watching whatsoever, in which case, why add any music at all? The same ends are accomplished with white noise or no sound.

You are also discrediting music as a medium by suggesting that it is something you add in the background on and pay no attention to. There is a lot you can learn from music, and it can influence and drive your thoughts, but it has little effect other than distraction when it comes to trying to interpret another person's thoughts on film. Waste of what you're watching and what you're listening to simultaneously.

Can you make an argument as to how listening to music enhances movies in any way?

>>6783418
I love this, what kind of genre would you call this?
(I'm so glad /mu/ isn't here to shit on me for this question)

>>6783384
>if you drink wine with a steak you're not really enjoying the steak or the wine

I dont listen to music. I take pauses in reading every 40-50 minutes to listen to some jazz, though. I believe that makes the best experience.

Try reading gravity's rainbow while listening to this

>>6783444
You're right about one thing: movie soundtracks are one of the most plebeian forms of music. The only thing more creatively bankrupt is video game soundtracks.

So of course it is quite suitable for background listening during a movie or game.

>>6783448
Ambient.

Im glad you enjoy it. Its possibly my favourite album. You should check out all of their stuff. "The campfire headphase" is another great one to read to. A bit "softer" than MHTRTC and uses a lot of acoustic samples.

>>6783496
>You're right about one thing: movie soundtracks are one of the most plebeian forms of music.
Seems to me you only watch the most plebaien form of movies, and that you don't know shit about it

oh wait
>games
explains it tbh

>>6783473
good album man. Been listening to 'Mongoloid' alot recently. Songs sad bro x

Okay faggots just post some relaxing music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTH7XefE85A

>>6783473
Funnily enough Devo based Whip it off gravity's rainbow

>>6783531
Don't kid yourself. What the first poster in the thread said is correct: you cannot, absolutely cannot, pay attention to music and something else at the same time. Your attention to one medium (or both) will falter.

In movies this is permitted because the music is constructed specifically to be background noise. The fact that movie composers are given awards is a mockery of music as an art. The fact that you are defending their music is disgusting.

Reading Book of the Newsom and listening to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d6qtfjg_10

>>6783553
Go outside or at least open a window. I think you may be spending too much time online.

>Your attention to one medium (or both) will falter.

If it increases your enjoyment as a whole then what is the problem, it is nice to be happy. If you are reading something for enjoyment and playing some music in the background improves your subjective experience then obviously that is fine.

You are a grade A pseud and even if you are claiming that everyone should be reading a novel in a completely blank room in absolute silence with no notion of comfort, you certainly do not.

If you are reading a text and mentally forming your own opinions and analysing them at the same time, are you fully absorbing the text with no distractions?

You're an idiot.

>>6783350
> "But you didn't", says Mummy.
You left out Mummy's punchline: "... because you're not a Jew."

why is modern art so terrible

>>6783646
because it's actually 2deep4u

>>6783646
It's based on the fusion of gnostic and jewish traditions, which are (like in Islam) inherently non-representative and iconoclastic traditions.

>>6783656
deepness != good
and all it shows is that deepness has no worth or meaning anymore when it requires nothing on the part of the artist and everything on the part of the critic/viewer to make up some bullshit to explain why it's not shit

>>6783553
>thinks music in movies is ok because it's background noise
>thinks playing music while reading for background noise isn't background noise
>disregards an important element of film because it is not the primary focus
>being this autistic


some of the yahoos that post on this board man, heysuuuus christooooooooooooo

>>6783449
This

>>6783496
At first I wanted to post an Ennio Morricone or Eduard Artemyev album cover, but then I remembered that 80% of movies indeed do have bland, faceless and generic soundtracks.

>>6783553
You're retarded tho.

>>6783770
you guys are forgetting though that not all film music is orignial music written for the film.

Look faggots, you can say that the music in movies (whatever it may be, wherever it may come from) is good, but you cannot pretend for even one second that you're really listening to it while watching the movie anymore than you're listening to the music playing at the mall while you're shopping.

>>6783794

>>6783384
that makes no sense. Just becaus you are more invested in the text doesnt mean youre discrediting the music. I can choose to listen to that music any other time as well, and read the book y itself as well. by your logic if I am reading a book then I am ignoring every other form of art or entertaining for ever. whic is not the case. musoc can enhance the experience, as how a film does with its score., but just because Im really enjoying the musical overtones and high points doesnt mean Im ignoring the film and vice versa.

>>6783802
Nice damage control, dipshit. Post your last.fm

>>6783350
yeah some soundtracks are good depending on the genre of the book, or classical music...but i'd suggest in particular some Brian Eno albums like
"Discreet music" or "Thursday afternoon"

>>6783496
my little /lit/ cant be this dumb.

>>6783794
Look faggot, maybe you should just start watching better movies, or start paying more attention to them.
Both your taste and attitude are worse than the average /tv/ poster's.

Electronic music without vocals: Autechre, Four Tet, Boards of Canada, Monolake all work well.

Once listened to Draft 7.30 by ae whilst reading Lovecraft and it was creepy as fuck.

>>6783350
>>6783384
I partly agree, I only have music on very quietly.
I like listening to Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto no.2 or Isle of the Dead and Stravinsky's The Firebird.

I am planning on reading a biography of Churchill though, and when I do I'll have Jerusalem on full blast.

>>6783350
>being so bad at multitasking that you can't have one medium of art inform the meaning of another

Music doesn't detract from the experience of visual art or cinema, in fact its frequently used to enhance it. why can't it be the same for literature?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6SO2_xONUw

Sciarrino while reading

>all these buttmad teenagers
One cannot fully comprehend challenging literature and challenging music at the same time.
Of course, most of you listen to pop music which requires no listening skills.
>>6783444
Film requires a different set of senses, uses music at the appropriate times, and uses simple music.
>>6783449
You aren't if you're consuming both simultaneously.
>>6783462
Why jazz of all things? Have some standards.

>>6783899
>/lit/ will get butthurt about this post

Everyone here truly is from reddit these days

>>6783921
Why don't project some more, it really drives home my point.

>>6783350

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP3k-5hryb8
Bill Evans' jazz and music I cannot follow or requiere my entire atention.

>>6783384

>Can you make an argument as to how listening to music enhances reading in any way?

Sometimes music becomes the "background" or "accidental" music of the book that i'm reading. It's like it suit to the fiction

>>6783933
>jazz

>>6783943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKAMNaGO5Y4

>>6783995
Pure, uninspired masturbation?

No wonder the 20-somethings here would love that simplistic garbage.

>>6784007

>>6783824
ok
http://www.last.fm/user/CheckAnon

>>6784012
You're not making yourself look any better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1bJ7iL7pAI

>>6784049
Neither are you

>>6783995 im this guy <<<<<

>>6784007
this is bait or a retarded narcisistic egolord

>>6784049
if you are this same person, implying this is better than monk is like sayin day is better than night while u fap to your mom's tampon smell

This helps me think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPZtRmx1Dyk

This helps me write:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh6W4yEX7fQ

This helps me read:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkW1iTyS8dk

This helps me keeping simple:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G8LAiHSCAs

This helps keeping whatever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KgxKtF35P4

This helps loving Joyce:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPjgE29xi1k

This helps loving mankind (and Joyce):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1CP5Lz2iHE

This also helps reading:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZZTfu4jWcI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRrJ2MXwmRQ

yes these are all arbitrary choices

>>6784054
>in the eyes of a tasteless kid
Don't care, go read more of your lolsorandumb modernist literature.
>>6784068
>this is bait or a retarded narcisistic egolord
>if you are this same person, implying this is better than monk is like sayin day is better than night while u fap to your mom's tampon smell
Yup, you're 14.

Tasteless child.

>>6783350
The division bell is fairly good for concentration purposes.

>>6783384
>this is what /mu/ acutally belives

>>6783350
https://youtu.be/n0v1FinSlKg
The entire OST

>>6783420
>I listen to music in the background when reading to block otherwise much more chaotic, distracting sounds.
Like me fucking your mom. Rekt af

>>6783473
Devo is fucking based man

>>6783384
>single comment started 62 posts of pure assmad

>>6784079
I like your taste.

>>6784079
Some great selections in there!

>>6783384
I'm with you. I put on headphones because it's the "closed office door" symbol of the modern day

>>6783449
>>if you pour wine on steak you're not really enjoying the wine or the steak

>>6783671
>movies select the sound for the scene reasonably carefully
>books and Music will not be synced

I sometimes put this radio, it's mostly background sounds, just creates an atmosphere:
http://tunein.com/radio/Ambient-Sleeping-Pill-s190314/

>>6783899
>One cannot fully comprehend challenging literature and challenging music at the same time.
>Of course, most of you listen to pop music which requires no listening skills.

trolling aside, I think there's different levels of reading and listening. sometimes, I read a book and get completely absorbed in it, to the point that it comes to life in my mind. other times, I skim wiki articles or light reading which doesn't take much focus.
likewise with music. sometimes it's in the background, other times the world is the background to music.

you can do it either way, there's nothing wrong with that. although I will agree that you can't focus properly on two works at the same time.

I have 2:15 to 4:30 playing in my head whenever I read Dostoevsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMtyTXDc9Fw

I listen to music when I listen to music
and I read a book when I read a book.

I leave stuff on the background sometimes just cause

http://www.last.fm/user/urielpie

I always hated kids in highschool who'd say they listen to "classical" music aka a mozart playlist on youtube while they read,

>>6786497
Your musical compatibility with urielpie is LOW
Music you have in common includes Tim Buckley, Cocteau Twins, Death Grips, Bill Callahan and Bob Dylan.

>>6786497
Nice dadrock, faggot

>>6786497
Yeah, the thing about listening to classical is it doesn't really work for reading. It's not soothing, it rises and falls, it's intricate and demands some attention at least. Ambient is where it's at for me, though I tend to lean more towards sparse piano ambient than stuff like Boards of Canada (I like Olafur Arnalds, Winged Victory for the Sullen, Nils Frahm).

btw:
>Your musical compatibility with urielpie is LOW Music you have in common includes Carole King, Bob Dylan, Neil Young, James Taylor y Joni Mitchell.
>tfw I only added Carole King and James Taylor a week ago and don't even know if I like them really

Makes me question everything


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMq1PiUbf-M