/lit/ - Literature

>>6747739

Book 3 will be all about Kaladin discovering the Fourth Ideal of the Windrunners: I will not try to fuck my friend's fiance.

>>6747739

Who /bridgefour/ here

I wish this could have been the cover.

I wish he could have used The Book of Endless Pages as the title

>>6747739
>Oh gee whatever shall I do I'm in such a perilous situation. Let's ruminate on it for 20 pages.
>Guess I'll draw cause I'm a drawer, guys.
next chapter
>Oh gee whatever shall I do I'm still in such a perilous situation. Let's ruminate on it for 20 pages.
>Guess I'll draw cause I'm a drawer, guys.
next chapter
>Oh gee whatever shall I do I'm still in such a perilous situation. Let's ruminate on it for 20 pages.
>Guess I'll draw cause I'm a drawer, guys.
>Oh I remember that one time when my father--no, drawing time.
next chapter
>Oh gee whatever shall I do I'm still in such a perilous situation. Let's ruminate on it for 20 pages.
>Guess I'll draw cause I'm a drawer, guys.
>Hey wait, I think my brother--nope! Time to draw, guys!!! I like drawing.
...

If you're into fantasy is this guy any good? Seeing his name spread around, but I have a personal dislike of Mormons.

>>6748861
The Mistborn series was quite good and to my liking.
I'd say to try him out, his fantasy is usually not cliche.

>>6748861
Read Elantris. It's one book so you don't have to get invested and it's a quick read. If you hate it you'll hate Sanderson.

All in all I think he bredy gud.

>>6748762

It made me upset that sanderson put so much time in to her boring as fuck backstory, particularly when Badass Jasnah was kicking ass and taking names in the name of SCIENCE! (oh ya, and btfoing philosophy in the meantime)

A spoiled brat girl and her DRAWRINGS really wasn't a good counterpoint to the whole "great houses competing to cross a seismic desert populated by psychic-red-negro-crap-people and gigantic lobstocities, who's hatch from giant rock chrysalises and who's core's are actually giant magical gemstones.

>muhmagination
>muh lsd

*i flare ateium*

I know exactly what you will shitpost next, kiddo

>>6750568
>A spoiled brat girl and her DRAWRINGS really wasn't a good counterpoint to the whole "great houses competing to cross a seismic desert populated by psychic-red-negro-crap-people and gigantic lobstocities, who's hatch from giant rock chrysalises and who's core's are actually giant magical gemstones.
I agree. Otherwise, I really like stormlight archive so far. But Words of Dalliance aka Shallan's Sketchbook Chronicles had me wanting to just skip chapters after a while. It would be awesome if he'd do a book focusing on Jasnah. Way more interesting character, I agree.

>>6750683
Jasnah came back to life at the end of Words of Radiance, right before Szeth was revived to become a skybreaker

It's literally DBZ with more melanin and craps.

>>6750692
I never got the impression we were supposed to believe they were dead. Which is just as stupid, I suppose. No peril.

>>6750707
>not supposed to believe someone who get fucking murdered and capsized in the middle of the fucking ocean is dead

>>6750716
Yeah, it usually only takes one of those for me to write someone off as dead.

>>6750716
There was a hell of a lot of setup with muhmagick soulpowers and the illusions. And after literally turning three men into pillars of fire or whatever in a dark alley by touching them, it seemed implausible that she would panic and freeze when confronted with a bunch of people battering into her cabin in the middle of the night. It was completely out of character.

>>6747781
fuck yeah.

>tfw you will never be part of a based squad destined for death and bond with your slave bros

>>6750927

>tfw you will never hold adolin's shivvering body in your arms as the highstorm roars outside, softly stroking his bp

For someone who just got off a ASOIAF and Book of the New Sun binge, should I check out Stormlight? Never read any Sanderson.

>>6748861
Start with Emperor's Soul, it's short and a good example of his style.

His Mormonism mostly manifests as a lack of sex and made up swearwords (Storm it!)

I'm at page 200 of WoK and I'd like to know when the action starts

>>6751632
As schlocky as GRRM is, Sanderson is on a whole new level of schlock. I say this as someone who likes Sanderson. He's worth a read if that's what you want tho

>>6752589

Eh, I enjoy GRRM's characters and his slow buildup of conflict and resolution. I'm actually kind of new to fantasy/sci-fi so I'm not sure where Sanderson's characters and way of storytelling differs from George's. I've read that he writes in a much more typical black-and-white way in terms of fantasy, and I'm not sure if I'm supposed to interpret that as being hammy or not.

>>6747739
who is this qt

i want to cum in her

>>6752692
shallan devar of course.

She's a horneater

Who /Iamastick/ here?

Best spren coming through

>>6752681
>I've read that he writes in a much more typical black-and-white way in terms of fantasy

He writes like a normal novelist and not a tryhard that attempts to inject as many subordinate clauses and adjectives into every sentence as is possible.

Also, he has this wonderful habit of giving short reviews of things through character dialogues so that paging through a doorstop fantasy novel over months doesn't get you lost.

>>6752699
lamastick?

what?

syl and pattern say ****buzzzzzz**** you

>>6752714
http://brandonsanderson.com/words-of-radiance-deleted-interlude-stick/

>>6752728

\>deleted
>interlude

unless it is about kaledin fu*king adolin's bp i don't care

>>6752731
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bump

>>6752743
wat

>>6754580
http://brandonsanderson.com/words-of-radiance-deleted-interlude-stick/

"Hey anon, what are you reading?"

"It's a novel called "Words of Radiance. Have you read it?"

"oh...no never heard of it. Is it like Game of Thrones?"

*supress my rage I am a rat in a cage*

>>6747739
Szeth > Kaladin

fuck that fight

>>6754677
>*supress my rage I am a rat in a cage*
Fuck off, newfaget.

>>6754580
It was his April Fools post last year

>>6754580
>>6752743
>>6755107

"Sanderson Tries Salvia"

>>6747739
reminder that shallan davar is a racist family-wrecking opportunistic boot-stealing sad child who has had a terrible life full of abuse with a shitty sense of humor

is this book any good?
what's the plot?
who are the main characters?

>>6752324
last 200 pages kick everything up a handful of notches, thought it was super cool

but yeah those first 800 pages are slow. worth, IMO, but slow.

>>6757004
what about WoR? I heard it's focused of Shallan, and I hate her so far

>>6755072

CRINGIEST MOMENT?

>"HOLD OUT THY HAND KALADIN!"

>Kaladin burst through the edge of the storm with patterns of wind spren shooting around him, glowing with energy

fucking manchild

>>6757073
It's focused mainly on dalinar adolin and renarin. Shallan and kaladin have equal roles

this series is literally mistborn with different names and a less-lame magic system.

>>6756994
4505 years after the Last Desolation, King Gavilar Kholin is dead, murdered by an assassin sent by the inhuman Parshendi, and his son Elhokar is a weak ruler. His brother Dalinar, a general more at home on the battlefield strives to hold Gavilar's ten Alethi princedoms together as their Highprinces bicker. He brings the Highprinces and their armies to the Shattered Plains, the Parshendi homeland, seeking vengeance. On top of this, Gavilar's widow is openly displaying interest in him, and he has had his memories of his dead wife removed by magical means.

Kaladin, a surgeon turned soldier turned slave and branded for treason, runs portable bridges across the chasms of the Shattered Plains for Highprince Sadeas's armies. He dreams of escape from his bondage and the life he once had as he listens to the cries of the dying.

An ocean away, in Kharbranth, City of Bells, Dalinar's niece, heretic Jasnah Kholin, has begun research on the Voidbringers, creatures that accompany the Desolations in Vorin Mythology. She possesses a sacred Vorin artifact- one that devout Vorin Shallan Davar intends to steal.

Also there are magic swords and magic armor and (there were) magic knights and giant Highstorms that crash over the continent destroying everything in their paths and ecologies based on tidepools since plants hide to escape the storms and animals are shelled.

>>6757438
Also Dalinar is recieving visions from something.

>>6757438
Literally how would someone follow this summary without having read it

>>6757444
The only solution is to read it.

>>6747781
bridge4 represent.

>>6748861
He's more entertaining than R. Jordan and George rr Martin, if that's means anything.

>mormonism

It's a fantasy story, so they have that in common. But no, his superstition doesn't ruin the story in any way.

>>6747739
>OP has faggotry spren blooming in and out of existence around him.

How dare you shit-talk based Kaladin.

>>6758449
What are the characteristics by which faggotry is determined?

Degree of attraction to the opposite gender: Shallan is really fucking gay. Of course, Kaladin spends his time shirtless with Moash, who clearly wants his dick, and barely speaks to women. Tie.

Inability to adequately deal with one's problems: Shallan is shit at dealing with her problems. She just acts like she's forgotten them, except for the time she stabbed Tyn. Kaladin suffers through and rises above severe depression- only to be a massive fucking idiot in WoR. Let's call it even.


Being OP: Neither Shallan nor Kaladin is OP.

Conclusion? Jasnah is the best Knight Radiant. Dalinar is the least classically faggotty, Lift is a child, and Renarin is an autistwho we don't know anything about

>>6757378
is it 800 pages of boredom and 200 of action like WoK?

>>6760654
it's 100% action

bumpin

>>6752681
Even though /lit/ likes to mock GRRM's prose, it is far better than Sanderson's. Sanderson just writes in a very bland manner, with a lot of exposition, and he has some really shitty characters. He is a really good worldbuilder though, and a very prolific writer.

>>6747781
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>6749061
Elantris is decent but it's very rudimentary. Granted, if you like it, you'll like Sanderson.

>>6750692
Szeth with Nightblood is gonna be wacky.

>>6752324
Sanderson has a bad habit of poor pacing up until the endings but he's getting better at it. WoR has known pacing issues, especially in the middle regarding Bridge Four.

>>6752743
I am a stick!

>>6760052
Kaladin is best Knight purely because he's going to break Roshar's orbit.

will this thread ever be archived?

>>6765567
Not yet

>>6747781
werd

>>6764742
>break Roshar's orbit
Wait what's this now? I've read a lot of the cosmere wiki stuff and have not heard of this, or maybe something I missed/misunderstood. Can you please elaborate?

>>6767122
Windrunning is probably the easiest way for Roshar space travel

>>6767122
All I/we know is that calculations have been ran to determine how fast Kaladin must accelerate in order to break orbit.

>>6767135
Being a Windrunner or Skybreaker, yeah, since both have the Surge of Gravitation.

Fun fact: If Rashek were a Knights Radiant, he would have been a Skybreaker.

>>6757073
>what about WoR? I heard it's focused of Shallan, and I hate her so far
It's mostly, or at least feels mostly, about Shallan. It's slow going for a lot of it, but there are some interesting parts. I also hate Shallan. See >>6748762

(I'm still on page 300 of WoK)
if you win a Shardblade, you become a lighteyes.
but what happens if you win a Honorblade?

>>6768206
>winning an Honorblade

>>6768206
You are going to read and find out.

>>6768206
>implying not one and the same
>implying this isn't going to confuse you more

>>6764027
Guess that's the trade-off you have to make when you churn out books like Sanderson does.

>>6768206
1.5k more pages to go anon

So let's get some discussion going:

>What was your favorite moment in each book, or from both books, so far?
>Who is your favorite character and why?
>What is your favorite concept so far?
>What are you most looking forward to?
>What mystery or plot point do you want explained the most?

>>6771279
>Shallan shenanigans with the ghostbloods
>Kaladin. I just like him.
>The cognitive realm
>The knights radiant official return
>what the fuck is the seventeenth shard doing

>>6771279
>>What was your favorite moment in each book, or from both books, so far?

"Talenel" showing up, Amaram getting BTFO, finding out about Taravangian and Dalinar in combat against Szeth were all really great. Jasnah just killing those thugs gave me shivers. You know, she's sitting in the bath just kind of flirting with Shallan and then she goes out of her way just to fuck with Shallan's head and teach her a lesson and get rid of a valid threat to the city. And then afterwards she doesn't use her fabrial because she already upset her enough, she doesn't want to make the poor girl feel any worse than she has to.

>>Who is your favorite character and why?

Taravangian is cool and Rushu and Rysn are underrated and Lirin is just a really standup kinda guy, but my favorite isn't a contest: based Jasnah Kholin. She does whatever the fuck she wants

and she is my waifu.

>>What is your favorite concept so far?

The way that Radiance works is both logical and mystical enough to keep me happy. I also love the highstorms.

>>What are you most looking forward to?

Getting more Cosmere-at-large stuff, like Nightblood on Roshar (WoB is that Shai is hunting Hoid down) and more Jasnah being Jasnah.

>>What mystery or plot point do you want explained the most?

The fucking Jasnah in Shadesmar novella that Branderson wrote but won't release. If that doesn't count, more stuff on the Night of Sorrows, the Unmade, or whatever causes the Recreance.

>>6771503
>what the fuck is the seventeenth shard doing
Aside from looking for Hoid? Yeah.

>>6771554
>quotations around Talenel
Good man.

>The way that Radiance works
What are you referring to with 'Radiance'?

>Nightblood on Roshar (WoB is that Shai is hunting Hoid down)
What does Shai have to do with Nightblood?

And shit son, I never knew he wrote a novella about Jasnah in Shadesmar. Unless you're referring to the bit about Jasnah in Shadesmar that takes place in Book 3. He's read the excerpt a few times and I believe he sent it along with one of his newsletters too.

>>6771568
more like what is the objetive of the seventeenth shard

>>6771574
Ye. I'm curious about that too. I wonder how large they are as an organization, who their leader is, and what Blunt--the guy from White Sand--is like.

So /lit/ likes genre fiction now. The duplicity of this board disgusts me.

>>6771582
>>>/out/
>>>leddit

>>6771568
The way Knights get Radiant; how they access the magic by morality as interpreted by a spren.

http://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/2ytg2h/im_novelist_brandon_sanderson_ama/crfqbm7?context=3

This is Sanderbrand's word on the Jasnah novella.

I meant Cosmere-at-large type stuff- more interactions between different magic systems. Stuff like Nightblood drinking stormlight or Hemalurgy stealing Shardblades (they're encoded in Spiritual sDNA). Shai is perfect for shenanigans like that.

>What was your favorite moment in each book, or from both books, so far?
WoK: when Kaladin was like Yo niggas we gotta go back
WoR: Probably Syl coming back I was kind of sad when she died :(
>Who is your favorite character and why?
Taravangian because I like his gimmick and feel like he has a lot of ways he could develop
>What is your favorite concept so far?
That one girl who eats things to slide on the floor
>What are you most looking forward to?
Kaladin fucking shit up at home because it's the only thing that one can easily anticipate
>What mystery or plot point do you want explained the most?
Cosmere 17th shard bullshit

>>6773037
Ohhh gotcha. Yeah it's basically based upon verbalizing a certain ideal. It doesn't have to be an /exact/ word-for-word ideal uttered by every single person but as long as it is spoken properly then it'll get the 'point' across. Although first Ideal is the same for all Knights Radiant and it begins to differ after the Second Ideal. I remember reading about this from a Q&A thing a while back but I believe that was the gist.

I'll check this link out. Thanks. I've still gotta read through his big recent Q&A on Reddit. I'm behind on new stuff by at least four or five months. It takes so much time to keep track of everything.

Nightblood consumes Investiture. Breath is the Nalthian form of Investiture and Stormlight is one form of Rosharan Investiture. Hemarlurgy stealing Shardblades is interesting. Didn't know that but doesn't surprise me. I feel like Hermalurgy is the 'science' approach as opposed to the 'magic' of every other magic system involved. I don't see why Shai would ever be on Roshar unless she somehow becomes involved with the Seventeenth Shard.

>>6773085
>Yo niggas we gotta go back
I don't know why I laughed.

Lift's Surgebinding of Abrasion isn't related to her ability to metabolize Stormlight. That ability is actually a Boon from the Nightwatcher.

Speaking of Seventeenth Shard, I wonder if Khriss is involved with them. I kind of doubt Frost is.

>>6773243
>That ability is actually a Boon from the Nightwatcher.
Oh was that in the book? I can't believeI haven't heard that before

>>6773282
It was stated outside of the books.

>>6773282
It's implied. Wyndle mentions his "mother" who granted Lift a rare talent.

>>6773243
Yeah. Alright: Realmatics Time!

Surgebinders have to be broken/traumatized in order to bond a spren. Spren fit into cracks in the soul- the Oaths limit the spren because Ishar needed something to make Surgebinders act honorably and stop them from wrecking shit.

Hemalurgy works by connecting the Physical and Spiritual Realms. You spike somebody and take a piece of soul encoded with the ability to access magic.

Dead Shardblade bonds are fucked up Nahel bonds. You're forcing the spren into Physical reality; the ability to do this is encoded on your soul.

So: if you know the proper bind points, you can steal a dead shardblade. Plugging a live spren directly into yourself (by hemalurgy or bond) is what Ishar's Oaths are designed to prevent.

>>6773243
Sandybrandy mentioned somewhere that she's tracking Hoid down and that she will figure out worldhopping (and on Sel, at that!)

>>6773389
I didn't even know all that about Surgebinders' mental health being necessary to bonding with a spren. Pretty interesting stuff.

All Shardblades are technically dead Shardblades due to the dead spren, if I've remembered that bit correctly. However, Honorblades and whatever other types are different. Still, cool stuff. I wonder how prominent Hermalurgy will be towards the end of the series since it seems to trump all if the person knows what they're doing.

>>6773394
Ah okay. I think I read something about her wanting to find the Imperial Fool. Too bad that scene with Hoid in Emperor's Soul was cut.

Has the "big secret" regarding why it is so difficult to worldhop to/from Sel been discovered yet?

hi, it's the 300-pages-anon again
what if we make a Whatsapp group and we talk about Stormlight Archive?

>>6774101
>Whatsapp
Pleb, cool kids use LINE

>>6774131
we'll decide that later

>>6774263
I'd try a group/circlejerk, maybe if others want to?

>>6774101
Why can't we just talk about it here?

>>6774539
what if the thread 404s and no one posts in the new one?

>>6774318
I'm in for line or whatsapp

>>6774724
I'm fine with anything, so long as a consensus is reached.

>>6773460
The reason worldhopping on Sel is dangerous has to do with how the cognitive there is weird due to Devotion and Dominion being shattered.

I hope he does the Elantris sequels soon.

Or Nightblood.

>>6776138
Yeah, we've known that for a long time but we don't know the exact explicit details. Evidently, it's something 'simple/obvious' and Brandon was surprised that nobody had discovered it yet.

>>6776179
I've been waiting for them for around four years. They probably won't be written until the break between Stormlight 5 and 6.
>tfw finding out the entire purpose of Warbreaker/Nightblood is to set up Vasher as a character

so, it's one for Whatsapp, one for Line, one for both of them and one for everything

>>6747739
>oh hey something mysterious and magical is happening to me
>I'd better not ask the fucking mystery solvers obsessed with magic

Fucking dropped