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What are some good books dealing with ennui?

>> No.6764870

Finnegans Wake

>> No.6764893
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I heard squatting helps.

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>>6764785
Who cares?

>> No.6764946

>>6764785
Is ennui boredom? Why not call it boredom? Native french speaker here, and it just means boredom in french, or problem in some contexts.

When you english folks use our words you butcher their pronunciation, maybe you should stop.

>> No.6764954

>>6764946
By this logic you should get off this website and stop speaking English.

>> No.6764960

>>6764946

Probably bait, but:
In English use, ennui indicates a particular form of boredom, typically characterized by a lack of or inability to experience excitement, or purpose.
While often associated with listless upper class intellectuals, it has been closely tied to intellectuals of all sorts for quite a long time.

For a native French speaker, you're kind of ignorant of the common usage of some of your words.

>> No.6764971

>>6764946
>an-new-wii

>> No.6764979

gunfire to the head is the only solution OP

>> No.6765024

>>6764946

English uses many loan words from many languages. It's always been this way; Shakespeare borrowed a lot from French and Italian usage in expanding and reshaping the English language. But it also has a lot to do with the fact that the English-speaking nation which rose to global supremacy in the twentieth century is an immigrant nation.

A loan word in English, over time, becomes a full-fledged English word. Moreover, it gains character as an English word through the accumulated history of its usage in English. In 2015, ennui is an English word whose meaning is slightly different from the French word ennui. It's also more nuanced than the English "boredom", having connotations of languor and existential anguish.

In any case, I checked, and ennui is not original in French either, it's derived from the Latin phrase "mihi in odio est" or "I can't stand it."

You should be more worried about imports from English rather than exports. The Académie Française is.

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>>6765024

>> No.6765390

I'm actually interested in the OP's request so it would be nice if someone actually answered the question.

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>>6765390

John Williams' "Stoner", definitely.

And anything by Schopenhauer, especially the essays in vol. 2 of "Will and Representation".

>> No.6765409

>>6764946
Je n'amie pas vous.

>> No.6765418

>>6765407
Does Stoner help or just make you kill yourself?

>> No.6765419

>>6764785
>>6765390

Book of Disquiet and Steppenwolf come to mind.

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>>6765418

It makes you wonder how/why Stoner didn't an hero...

I found him ultimately pretty likeable, mostly for the sense of self-possession he maintains.

Stoicism, I guess.

>> No.6765649

The Hermit by Eugene Ionesco

>> No.6765682

>>6764946
L'ennui tel décrit par Pascal mon amis. Celui qui ronge tous les hommes et fais d'eux des gouffres de désespoir.

Viens du Latin In Odia Re "haine de dieu".

>> No.6765686

>>6765682
good french skills.
only mistake is L'ennui tel que décrit and no S at "mon ami"

>> No.6765700

>>6765686
Thank you m8

>> No.6765703

>>6764785
A Rebours, by Joris-Karl Huysmans.

>> No.6767415

>>6764785
The Stranger

>> No.6767451

>>6765682
>et faiT
>VienT
third person singular of "faire" and "venir" end with a T, no a S.

>> No.6767492

>>6767451
This

>>6765682
Try harder

>> No.6767729

>>6764785
Literally L'Ennui by Émile Tardieu.

>> No.6767739

>>6764946
Ils utilisent ennui dans le même sens que nous utilisons "spleen" qui est un mot anglais. C'est un dans chaque camp donc.

Aussi, nous utilisons constamment des mots anglais alors que nous avons des mots français parfaitement opérationnels qui ont le.même sens, et nous en massacrons aussi la prononciation. Nous n'avons pas de leçons à leur donner dans ce domaine.