/lit/ - Literature

French philosophy, maybe

>>6760717
Yes. Video games are better. Don't bother coming here again.

>>6760717
No, it's the basis for all knowledge.

We only have empiricism, logic, rationality etc because of philosophy.

The quantification of any knowledge is philosophy.

>>6760717
Shit thread? Shit thread

>>6760737

H... hey... it was important three thousand years ago....

What pretense are you inferring?

Everything from Aristotle up until Descartes, yes

>>6760751
Good 'ol 985 BC

A flowering age for philosophy

>tfw sitting through a philosophy lit class

>>6760761

Okay, when was philosophy last relevant then? Two thousand years ago? Wow, ya got me.

>>6760777
Hmm. Could you give me a date in which you believe philosophy lost relevance?

>>6760777


Trips confirms

>>6760777
What do you mean by relevant?

>>6760784

Let's just agree it hasn't been relevant for the past century, and never will be again.

>>6760717
here let me sit down and think about whether it is or not

>>6760793
Not that I'm disagreeing with you but
>philosophy stopped being relevant 3000 years ago
And
>philosophy stopped being relevant 100 years ago
are two very different claims. I agree with the latter

>>6760751
>implying without it we would be able to apply any of these techniques properly

>>6760717
well it will teach you that pretension is an abstract thing that will stop you from enjoying things

any philosophy that isn't practical is wanky garbage.

>>6760788
>>6760777
Relevant to what? Your interests?

>>6760751
>muh empirical science

read Kuhn

>>6760757
>descartes a serious philosopher
>the soul lives in the pineal gland

more like everything before witty

WITTGENSTEIN

>>6760834
>normative ethics are worthwile.

The opposite is true.

>>6761387
#TYBW

>>6761387
Reason alone is one of the most significant ideas in all of western history.

Without descartes you are missing half of the of the reasoning behind scientific method.

Descartes, Bacon and Newton should all be read as a set for philosophy.

ITT: butthurt "philosophers"

Philosophy gave rise to modern sciences (maths, physics). That's about it.

It was a noble attempt at trying to explain literally everything in the universe, but it ultimately failed because of the lack of focus and structure.

>>6760717
Anything is pretentious faggotry if you're uneducated enough.

>>6761916
You're talking like maths and physics weren't part of philosophy.

>>6760777
Relevancy is subjective, anon.

Saying Philosophy isn't relevent in the 21st century is like building a tower and saying you don't need the ground floor.

>>6761937
>I have problems with reading comprehension

How about you try reading the third paragraph again?

>>6761978
I don't see how that's relevant.

>>6761963
Yes, philosophy as a whole is irrelevant. You are much better off dedicating your resources to studying its branches (physics, for example).

>>6762005
But you can't do physics without understanding epistomology.

>>6761988
Well, too bad. Hence why I pointed to your problems with reading comprehension.

It's a sailboat in the middle of the sea with nowhere to go.

>>6762019
Do you know how physics are done? Here:

1. a certain phenomena is observed
2. a theory within the current general knowledge margins is proposed
3. series of experiments is conducted to either prove of disapprove the theory
4. a mathematical model is introduced
5. aforementioned mathematical model sometimes unintentionally hints on the existence of yet unobserved phenomena
6. you desperately search for this unobserved phenomena or try to emulate it

And then you basically go to step 1 and repeat. This is a general template.

Now, if we talk about present, the only things I need in order to do physics is the understanding of current mathematical model and list of unexplained phenomena. From there on I can stick to the template from above.

Now, I would like you to elaborate on how does any of this relate to THOROUGH understanding of epistemology.

The concept of philosophy was brought, unshavingly, about by the great assimilation of jazz-folk-post-lore or "post-jazzlore" into the modern pregnancy it is today. To say philosophy has not been unchangeably ruptured by the mightious out-pouring of post-jazz from the booming jazz-coffers of yore is to be completely lost in a cloud of wednesday haze.

>>6760728
no

>>6760717
Without philosophy we wouldn't have functional science, anon. So no.

>>6761404
>wittgenstein liking girls

Worst meme tbh.

No, but /lit/ is.

>>6761978
>>6761988
>>6762022
The third paragraph has no relevance to what that poster said.