/lit/ - Literature

>>6752548
The pic is alright, it'll give you a good understanding of Greek culture, literature and philosophy. Some may have an issue with edition and translations. For philosophy I'd try and go with Cambridge or Oxford editions of books. I can't speak as to which translations of literature are the best.

As for the /lit/ guide to philosophy, it's good. I don't think the author's positions as an atheist and Marxist heavily bias the guide. However, note that the guide uses a lot of in depth material that would be used in equivalent upper level undergrad or master's level classes. This is fine, but if you're a layman you probably won't get a whole lot out of them without a teacher. If you're said layman who just wants a general understanding, I'd recommend you just find some intro to philosophy books such as the ones by Will Durant and Simon Blackburn.

>Aristophanes first
>Pope translation as first read
>no Pindar

>>6752637
Thanks for the information. I'll try it out

>>6752637
>not including the link
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/edit?pli=1#
shame on you


https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g6XaOX8RldHRg_JradONkS99oE6uC5dc9EuyOa5rips/edit

On a side note, beyond the list of Marx and Engels' 'basic reading kit', the Marxism guide is fucking garbage.

Who the fuck reads Lenin in order? The supplements to Capital is just David Harvey (which is crap, btw). The lists for Trotsky, Stalin, and Mao are complete fucking garbage. The list doesn't get into any other intellectual traditions (ie Left-communism), neither more contemporary theory.

>>6752855
What's wrong with David Harvey?

>>6752910
>>6752910
With Harvey personally, nothing. His transcribed lectures on Capital, on the other hand, doesn't accurately describe the economic foundations of capitalist production

Of course, it's fine if you listen to his lectures; he has insights every now and then, but taking his Companion as a guide to understanding Capital won't really get you anywhere.

example: https://critisticuffs.org/texts/david-harvey/

If you want a decent guide to Capital, get Anthony Brewer's 'A Guide to Marx's Capital', and read Rubin's 'Essays on Marx's Theory of Value' afterwards.

>>6752548
I would make a few amendments to that chart. First and foremost, that Greek history textbook is dull at best and incomplete at worst. Look for Ian Morris' for the best intro. And for a Greek mythology overview, there's a textbook by Richard Buxton (Complete World of Greek Mythology) that does a better job of introduction to the classics--and it's packed with beautiful images. I'd skip Apollodorus completely. In translation, it just reads like poor Wikipedia pages. Way better idea: get Hackett publishing's Anthology of Classical Mythology: Primary Sources in Translation and read a bunch of different sources. You'll get a much better understanding.

Don't read Pope's translations of Iliad or Odyssey. No university assigns them anymore because they are better instruction in British classicism than the actual classics. Lombardo or Fagles are fine for your first reading.

Aristotle's Ethics and Politics are probably as important or more important than the metaphysics. That's just a really strange recommendation by itself. And definitely add Plato's Symposium.

Starting Greek theater with Aristophones is equally strange. Oresteia and Theban trilogy are solid, add the Bachhae, then do comedies that attract you.

Ancient history is mainly what I do. All of Herodotus and Thucydides is good. Anabasis is good, but less "necessary." (It's super cool though, so you should read it).

>>6752548
Is there one of these for medieval literature?

does anyone have the one on which edition of Gravity's Rainbow is preferred

>>6752548
This one is better. Skip what you want to skip, unless that Includes The Iliad and The Odyssey.

>>6752548
I have the complete dialogues of Plato (The one that Edith Hamilton edited. I hear it's a bad translation but I live in a country where I can't just buy these things easily). I've read the Oxford Short Introduction to the Presocratics and am reading the one on Plato. I've also read the various fragments from my copy of Greek Philosophy: From Thales to Aristotle, but didn't read the Plato and Aristotle because I'm not starting with the Greeks just for the metaphysics and I don't want to read them abridged. I listen to the History of Philosophy podcast.

In what order should I read the Dialogues? Should I just read in the order given? .

>>6752855
I'm pretty sure it's not finished the guide lol. Especially the Marxism section.

>>6754021

Euthyphron
Apology
Criton
Phaedo
The Republic

>>6752548

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