/lit/ - Literature

No, that belongs on /mu/. Fuck off.

>>6741887
how is this vitriol justified?

>>6741875
Try this guy out, OP. He's criminally underrated:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0Fe1tQjB5U

Wait for that end solo.

>>6741875
>Death Grips

Please leave and never come back.

>>6741875
>jimmy hendrix
>frank zappa
>probably "hates phish"
>has never heard of moe.

>>>/mu/

>>6741909
I know about him, haven't listened in ages though, might have to revisit now thanks.

>>6741912
really? you think /lit/ would appreciate one of the only music acts today with serious connections to contemporary post-modern art.

>>6741933
I don't hate Phish, no idea why you would think that. I have heard moe. and as for the other meme arrows, you really think Zappa and Hendrix are worthy of derision?

the smiths
the cure
mac demarco
tame impala
future islands
destroyer
skip james

>>6741955
>you think /lit/ would appreciate one of the only music acts today with serious connections to contemporary post-modern art.
>screaming hobo is "serious" "post-modern" art
fucking kill yourself, you're not gonna be spoonfed and you sound like a complete retard

>>6741968
You literally have no idea what you are talking about. You don't know anything about the artistic universe that Death Grips is a part of and indelibly connected to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V27rH6b5ub4

basically you sound like a retard talking about shit you don't know about.

>>6741875
Porcupine Tree
Imogen Heap
School of Seven Bells
Arabic nasheeds
Protest The Hero
Bone Thugs N' Harmony
Big Pun
John Lee Hooker
Bring Me The Horizon
Hendrix

Most of the stuff that falls in the middle of that.

This thread belongs in the trash. Mods wtf?

>>6741875
>>6741989
>>6741962

>>6741986
So do you.

gregorio allegri
tomas luis de victoria
giovanni pierluigi da palestrina
thomas tallis
alonso lobo
william byrd

>>6741989
I recommend you kill yourself
>>6742042
Make an exit bag with which to remove yourself

>>6742041

No, you just know anything about the topic if you think that. As evidenced by your clever retort 'nuh uh' It's like watching someone talk about a book when they have only read the meme.

I actually think of this often and try to figure out literary equivalents, usually fail...

Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Dirty Beaches (I really want a literary equivalent of this)
Beirut (sebald is close sometimes in a much less 'romantic' way)
Springsteen
Burial

>>6742084
Abloobloobloo. Shut up, poopoohead.

>>6742098
m8 i've got the perfect recommendation for you 10/10 easily m8

>>6742099
Why did you think this was an effective post? Do you just cream your pants whenever someone replies to you and you don't actually understand the things being said?

>>6742103
>>6741998

If you really think threads like these are a bad idea then you probably have no imagination or capacity for abstract thinking.

If you think this kind of light idol discussion is beneath you you don't belong on 4chan at all.

>>6742116
Okay.
>>6742133
Sure thing.

>>6742144
>>6742099
>>6742051
>>6742041
>>6741998
>>6741887

wow what intelligent and well written posts form such creative people.

>>6741933
Fuck off you pleb hippie, everyone hates Phish and whatever shitty jam bands you get baked listening to. Hendrix's live album Band of Gipsys is infinitely better than their thousands of bootleg tapes filled with pointless wankery.

>>6742051
Don't feel bad because you can't just enjoy things for what they are, mate.

>>6742212
Okay.

>>6742202
>not going to see live music

lmao

>>6742221
>seeing live music that is terrible
lmao

>>6742202
wow what intelligent and well written post form such creative person.

>>6742221
>going to see shit live music

>>6741875
Beethoven
Mozart
>inb4 unnecessary insults

Someone suggest something to me.
>Leonard Cohen
>The Residents
>Nick Drake
>Grateful Dead
>Billie Holiday
>Django Reinhardt
>Chet Atkins

>>6742235
>>6742236
You guys might like to try this. It's on DVD as well.

>>6742236
>Grateful Dead

I suggest you kill yourself.

>>6742235
>>6742236
Oops.

>>6742226
he didn't post the comment you are referencing and repeating when someone points out how low the quality of posts is doesn't invalidate the point that was being made by the original observation.

Seriously, all the objections in this thread basically amount to just children saying 'boo boo' over and over without any critical reasoning to argue why.

>>6742263
Fart.

>>6742243

>Buying into the hate train
The lyrics from many of their original songs are nonsensical, I'll give you that; but Bob's chord progressions are extremely musically interesting, using as many inversions of chords as are available on his instrument, and Garcia's lead guitar is extremely interesting, often times using middle-eastern or Indian techniques in accordance with the standards (major/minor scales/arpeggios, blues scales, dorian mode, pentatonic scales, etc). The guitar work makes the band extremely musically complex, and it is even moreso impressive due to the fact that they create these complex musical compositions through improvisation.

Anyone can learn how to play a Bach or a Mozart on the piano, or learn how to play an Eric Clapton song on their guitar, or whatever. An expert at their instrument will be able to improvise and make it seem as if it were a written piece of music composed over months or years at a time; The Grateful Dead fit that description.

>>6742271
Terrapin Station was shit! SHIT!

>>6742271
nigga i ain't readin dis shit lmao

>>6742271
they are basically just a jazz band for hippies. I don't necessarily think you need to say all that stuff about Bach comparisons etc, but I agree with the point that musicians and knowledgeable listeners recognize the skill they have that many average people don't understand.

>>6742226
Faggot.

>>6742292
Fuck off, I'm right in all regards.

>>6742281
this thread has thoroughly convinced me that lit is filled with literal morons.

>>6742271
I like them and all but holy shit man we gave this girl a ride to umphrey's and widespread and she keeps going on and on about dark star orchestra and she said this one shitty band in town that played Tennessee Jed for half an hour (they really played it for fucking half an hour) was "pretty good". Like son of a bitch. Telling me to go to some 50th year thing with a bunch of bands and "it's like all dead! They do some sick collabos".

And she goes to other shows too. A lot more. And still she is just obsessed with chasing this memory she was too young for. I mean I guess if they're definitely really you're favorite band what are you gonna do but still.

>>6742308
Agreed, I think I'll stay on /mu/ from now on!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuSsD554cvk help

>>6742323
>Stockhausen
lmao. try this

>>6741875
> Sufjan Stevens
> Elliott Smith
> Nick Drake
> Andrew Bird
> St Vincent
> Radiohead
> Moondog
> Albums: Perfect Hair, Yellow House, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot

>>6742339
Wow, what unique taste! Hope you can read French.

>>6742328
https://youtu.be/aW_hmyEWq0M?t=49m19s

The man was an absolute genius give this link a try

I'll recommend myself Finnegans Wake it's the same sort of immersion and absolute hallucination

>>6742305
I didn't even say you were wrong dummy. But anyway knowing how to solo on different scales through chord changes does not make you genius.

The band knows the chord progression and by knowing that they can know what notes are in the chords and find a place to be and create movement on different scales. Inversions are can be clever but it's not like it takes a genius to move the notes in a chord around or add harmonies.

Pretty much any musician that practices can learn to improvise and have it sound like a composed piece. You post strongly suggests that you aren't actually a musician or someone who fully understands how improvisation works in music.

Also, the Dead played a lot of the same tunes over and over, it's not a surprise that they got good at improvising within those structures. If you ask me what is really compelling about the group is the sheer lenghs of time that the same core of musicians spent jamming together that creates a unique musical relationship in their playing. What they do is not necessarily difficult , but the fact that they have put in so much time has made them very good at what they do, limited as it is.

If you haven't heard it I recommend listening to Grayfolded. That album is dope.

Kanye West
Bob Dylan
Katy Perry

>>6742369

>The VU
>Serge Gainsbourg
>The Smiths
>Bauhaus
>Nick Cave
>Jaques Brel

>>6742387

>>6742328
>>6742350
>claiming to enjoy Stockhausen
try hard dilettante detected

>>6742344
I'm sorry you think taste is supposed to be a competition. That must be very stressful for you.

>>6742412
Very.

>>6742401
you didn't hear the link did you ._.

I listened to the whole thing in bed before sleep, eyes closed and omfg I was transported into this strange village as in a 3D real life scenario the sound completely immersive, I'm not trying to be deep or anything I say this factually, this is visual music it was complete hallucination

More stockhausen, if you don't like this one I don't know what to make of you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR_wG0MYNoA

mildly psychopathic and
it's serialism nevertheless, sort of, not integral

I've never heard of anything close to serialism in literature wonder why. asides from all the unnecessary autism that is

Ooo Oooo
Do me, do me
>N-no homo
>Coheed & Cambria
>Dillinger Escape Plan
>The Fall of Troy
>Esbjorn Svensson Trio
>Coltrane
>...
>Bassnectar
>Deftones
>Jose Gonzales
I have no idea how many Ive chose and God help me I will no scroll upwards
>Inb4 shit taste, I am well aware

>>6742439

>>6742445
Does it come in audiobook form?

>>6741955

>Death Grips
>one of the only music acts today with serious connections to contemporary post-modern art.

I like Death Grips, but please just fuck off.

Seriously, leave. You're fucking trash. Go down a rabbit hole and die while you weep.

>>6742387

best taste so far

do you like francois hardy? ever listened to the birthday party? sisters of mercy? what about violent femmes?

>>6742401

excuse me? what seems to be the problem here?

>>6742401
>>claiming to enjoy Stockhausen
>try hard dilettante detected
this is the dumbest meme I see. there's hundreds of posts all the time about numerous ambient and electrinic artists who make all kinds of abstract shit, yet when someone brings up stockhausen everyone acts like they are posers for enjoying it.

>>6742639
lol you are just another person who listens to death grips and has no idea what they are really about.

see
>>6741986

>>6742688

You're so fucking dumb. I'm actually upset.

I wasn't implying that they aren't postmodernist you literal subhuman, I was pointing at the fact that you think Death Grips are "one of the few musicians with connections to postmodern art", which is completely and objectively wrong and shows that you absolutely don't know shit about music today, that you don't actually go out and look for music by yourself and that you're a spoonfeed /mu/babby, much like your opening post implied. Your taste is fucking trash, your opinions are trash yet you still go around acting like you're knowledgeable. You. Ain't. Shit.

>>6742739

spoonfed*

>>6742739
I said 'serious' connections. There aren't many other musicians with connections to art that is actually noteworthy. You obviously don't know anything about art or music. Also it hardy matters that other musicians connected to art exist because that does nothing to invalidate the original point I was making, that if /lit/ had any actual taste or knowledge no one would be looking down on people for listening to Death Grips.

And to say they are one of the few with connections to contemporary art is very accurate, there are far greater numbers of musicians with no connection to it and further more even fewer that actually have connections to any art that is recognized by the critical class and not just random bozos patting themselves on the back in their unknown hipster hangout.

Clearly the real reason you are upset is because discovered from my post that you are actually a casual pleb death grips fan who has no idea about the group outside what you read on 4chan. It's misdirected anger.

You are laughable and your insecurity is laughable.

>>6742842

>There aren't many other musicians with connections to art that is actually noteworthy.

Ignoring the grammatical mistake, this is completely and entirely untrue, a plain lie.

It's okay that your horizon is extremely narrow - I know that there are people who don't actually care about music, not a problem, but please don't go around pretending to know shit. It's extremely embarrassing.

>You obviously don't know anything about art or music.

Useless insult, ad hominem.

>Also it hardy matters that other musicians connected to art exist because that does nothing to invalidate the original point I was making

You said Death Grips were great because of their connection to postmodernist art, now you are trying to tell me that this connection hardly matters?

>that if /lit/ had any actual taste or knowledge no one would be looking down on people for listening to Death Grips.

Not only is that completely irrelevant to this argument because I did not even mention it, it's also pretty childish of you to care about what /lit/ thinks. Who gives a fuck.

>And to say they are one of the few with connections to contemporary art is very accurate

Not even in popular music is this true.

>there are far greater numbers of musicians with no connection to it

You can't be fucking serious. There are more musicians that do not bear any connection to postmodernist art then ones who do. Who the fuck would have thought? Completely irrelevant to mention this.

>even fewer that actually have connections to any art that is recognized by the critical class and not just random bozos patting themselves on the back in their unknown hipster hangout.

Can you try not typing in buzzwords and 4chan lingo? What the fuck is "critical class" even supposed to mean? People that think critically? Critics? People that are overly critical? Intellectuals?

>Clearly the real reason you are upset is because discovered from my post that you are actually a casual pleb death grips fan who has no idea about the group outside what you read on 4chan. It's misdirected anger.

Why even mention this? Even if this was true, how does it detract from my argument? There is nothing wrong with liking Death Grips for the instrumentals or something similiar, who are you to say how people are to enjoy their music?

We both know this is pure projection. I don't even go to /mu/ since the huge /pol/ and /v/ influx, it's just shit flinging. On the other hand your favorites are literally all considered more or less /mu/core bands.

>You are laughable and your insecurity is laughable.

This is actually pathetic.
You know, if you wanted me to recommend you some good artists with connection to postmodern art you could have just asked for it, but you decided to be a clown. Choke on a dick.

>>6742903
>You can't be fucking serious. There are more musicians that do not bear any connection to postmodernist art then ones who do. Who the fuck would have thought? Completely irrelevant to mention this.
beacuse that means the number with connections is comparativly few and my post was completely accurate?

you are one butthurt moron.This is sad. the way you pull out all the individial insults and call them irrelevant and act as if you are disproving something is asinine. Imagine if I had done the same thing to this post>>6742739

You might as well leave because you are embarrassing as fuck. Gotta say you posts sure succeeded in making me feel bad because they really effectively remind me that I'm wasting time here talking to the most retarded people. The fact that you though hat dumb post was some kind of victory, Christ, I gotta get out of here.

>>6742903
>Even if this was true,
furthermore, that's definitely true, and it makes it all the more funny that you actually think you could recommend anything to me when you clearly don't even know about basic shit.

fuck off tbh

>>6742930

>The fact that you though hat dumb post was some kind of victory,

???

>Christ, I gotta get out of here.

You should've posted it on /mu/ in the first place

>furthermore, that's definitely true

keep telling yourself that, whatever lets you sleep at night I guess

>>6743073
We know who you are, get out of here man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj2uVXGldzY

>>6743073
>???
you are this dumb that you can't figure out what that sentence said because of one basic typo?

>>6741955
Can't be bothered wasting my time with the whole debate going on below, but
> you think /lit/ would appreciate one of the only music acts today with serious connections to contemporary post-modern art.

haha*n