/lit/ - Literature

What were your grades like?

>>6731843
>magna cum laude
they were excellent

>>6731843
you do know that this guy is trolling you right? Usually people with magna cum laudes, not sure if he spelled it right but people who graduate with high honors have protection by the university. Because all university people think like this, if your grade is really high then you're really smart and not just able to copy shit down.

>>6731860
by protection I mean, he can get a ph.d and enter the world of delusional people who also believe that by applying a method to their studies that they can somehow become greats like shakespear or newton or einstein.

>>6731860
what are you talking about
I have another friend who graduated with ridiculously good marks in English, ~3.97/4.0, she is washing dishes and was happy to get full time work

>tfw studying political philosophy
>tfw accepted into Environmental Policy masters
>tfw Loads of middle income jobs that are part time within a few years.

All I want is 35,000 euro a year working monday to wednesday.

>>6731842
lol what the hell did nobody tell you before you tried to get a soft-science degree that it was worthless?

I'm sorry. I thought that was common knowledge.

I graduated magna cum laude in English from a good university that was far from the top 20. Right after I finished school I got a job at a big corporation writing job descriptions. I was hired specifically because I could write well. Clearly you did something wrong, OP.

>>6731871
>English Literature
>science

u w0t m8?

>>6731871
English is a soft science?

I graduated from a top twenty (in the world) uni with a BA in English and history and found a job for 45k at a digital agency right away

it's not even difficult--you just have to make sure you've done the right internships and ecs

zero regrets with my undergrad choices, I would pick the same studies again

ofc, some of my stem friends are making six figures in their first year but whatever

>>6731871
I bought into the idea that a bachelor's degree had signalling value and that if I worked my ass off and got great marks it would mean something to an employer. Not in English!

>>6731885
>wahhhhh i didn't get anything immediately upon graduating

>>6731885
You need a masters in an academic subject to get a job now

1/10 made me reply

>get good degree
>fuck around in uni, fail a year's worth of subjects, no full-time experience or internships
>55K starting, no connections needed

>>6731885
Man, a Bachelor's is nothing any more. Stick a 1-year masters on top of it, call me in the Summer.

maybe you should have got financial aid

University is a waste in general. Just get a 2 year college diploma and get in the workforce

>>6731842
>>6731855
>>6731879
>>6731884
>trying to impress people on a Ukrainian MLP fanfiction blog

You're a faggot OP

I'm just here for qt Anna May Wong

>>6731842
>magna cum laude

I think I found your problem. I graduated summa cum laude with an English degree and received job offers left and right.

>>6731893
No you bleedin' don't. You need work experience, or a degree in a practical, career-oriented subject. Postgrad study in the humanities is at best neutral, at worst actively harmful to your chances of employment.

which one op

>graduate from top 20 latvian university
>get a degree in asian american studies
>homeless

kill me :(

>>6732214
You mean to tell me that there's 20 Latvian universities?

>>6732214
>top 20 LATVIAN univ
>implies its a feat

>>6731860

>protection

lmao. the more time I spend on this board the more I realize it really is just a bunch of retarded 16-24 year olds spouting nonsense.

>>6731842
Should have done at least 3 internships or gone on to law school you fucking retard. You can do what you love only if you have the work ethic.

>>6732287

looks like there's 58, in fact.
http://www.webometrics.info/en/Europe/Latvia%20

As someone with a Masters in physics and now finishing my PhD at NASA, my only question is this: Did you get a lot of pussy?

>implying i want a job in the first place

Uni was a just a socially acceptable escape from the working world for me.

>>6732334
>was
then why did you finish?

>>6732214
>asian american studies
garlaicības kalngals

>>6732345
You can't stay in education forever unless you're rich, and if i was rich why would i care about uni when i wouldn't have to work in the first place?

>>6731842
Seriously, what did you expect?

Lol you fucking humanities plebs. I dropped out of High school at age 15 so that I could get my degree in electrical chemical computer engineering and I now make 200k a year starting salary. My brother got three PhDs in English, Philosophy, and Art History and now is homeless because not even McDonald's will employ him. Even though he knows how to read and I can't, I'm employed and he's not

>>6732413
Yeah, well my friend dropped out of high school at 15 and died homeless and on drugs. I, on the other hand, earned a PhD in Philosophy and then went into business and now make $250/year starting.

capitalists getting BTFO in this tread

>finish my English degree with a 2.8 GPA, only showed up for midterms/finals
>immediately land a job at Penguin, deciding which novels their Penguin Classics line releases
>500k starting
>also have the numbers of several famous authors in the area including Don Dellilo and Thomas Pynchon
>they call me constantly to ask me my opinion on ideas for novels they're working on

>>6732459
Same anon. I even got the secret writers guild signet ring.

God, Pychon is such a queen. That guy asks what you think but cant handle any criticism.

>>6732459
YOU DID THIS

>>6732508
could be worse

>>6731842
>thinking employers approve of self-indulged 'geniuses' who sit on their degree laurels and get fat from doing fuck all

I don't understand how can people aspire to the higher ideals of the humanities and still go
>"I want muh corporate job, I want muh conventional lifestyle.

Fucking unimaginative asshats.

jobs are a load of crap anyway

>>6732459
You need a pleb to appeal to the plebs

>>6732531
>implying people don't go into the humanities precisely because they lack the imagination to do something else

Well, it's true for me, anyway.

its obvious this situation is incredibly wrong. there are no jobs anymore. no reform based on giving people more "skills" is going to help, labor simply isn't needed and there aren't enough jobs for people who need to work. if a person who has signaled a high level of intelligence and ability to accomplish something at a reasonably impressive level can't easy find a middle class job then the idea of an economy where people support themselves by finding jobs is just done.

the ONLY way forward is a universal minimum income, there is NO alternative. unfortunately it will take decades for people to understand this.

>>6732591
You're right, too bad the solution is too expensive, not only is it too expensive it's impossible to pull off and society would collapse anyway.

>>6731842
A BA is not the problem. The bloody doctorate is when you truly realize you've spent your time and money on something that has almost no chance of paying off. I'd sell mine for enough to wipe out my debt in a heartbeat.

>>6732139
Did you not read the part where I said "academic"
As in the only application really being a mental excercise.

>>6732591
This is true but unfortunately the boomers who run western countries are scared of change and it doesn't suit them.

>>6732713
...I don't follow. I took 'academic' to mean 'non-practical' (e.g. literature, history, philosophy).

>>6731842
top 20 in the US or in the world? :^)

>Not getting funded for grad work

>>6732717
Americans absolutely hate giving anything to anyone for 'free,' and so the idea of basic income will take decades before it'll ever be implemented.

>>6732777
What does that have to do with getting a job? I seriously hope you're not assuming you'll be one of the 1% who gets a decent job in academia.

>not being part-time master race and spending your free time writing crappy genre fiction with the intent to become rich off it

>>6731865
>All I want is 35,000 euro a year working monday to wednesday.

Nice jest fuccboi

>>6731842
>tfw english graduate with a 1st
>tfw each rejection is like another nail in the coffin of my life

Am I the only one who finds CVs to be fucking degrading? Not only does it make it crystal clear that you've achieved so fucking little with your life, but you have to write good things about yourself too. Why can't there be a well paid job for self-hating introverts?

>>6732944

if youre having problem writing your resume/cv, it's only going to get worse from here lmao

>>6732413
Good post

>>6732591
Get fucked you useless communist softcock. Make your own damn way in this world. I have to provide a lifestyle I can toloerate by the sweat of my brow, making myself useful to others. If you find the world too intimidating/menial and not like you thought it would be as a child then you can die in the gutter. Why do you think you're entitled to somebody providing you with a comfortable life so you can sit around thinking about nice ideas all day? Fuck you, yes I'm mad. Its's your kind that ruin this great civilisation.

>>6732944
get your certification and go teach english in armenia. chill with other retarded expats and do cheap drugs/whores

I've got one year left of an english undergrad.
The closest I've come to being content with my choice [part of manuscript missing]

I'm miserable and have no future. Don't study English.

>>6731842
>cum

>>6733671
You would have been just as miserable if you picked any other field.

>>6733674
probably more so, as I'd have had to do more work than stay up late writing papers for a few nights each semester

>>6731943
Im going to guess you forgot
>be sexy and naturally charming
Or
>be a lucky asshole
But good job

>expecting your title to magically get you a job
>applying to regular jobs when you are specialized
you're just sad. you chose and made that future, don't complain now.

I'm worried myself. I'm going into my senior year as an accounting major and do an extra year to get my masters and then take the CPA exam. I'm worried I'll never get a job because I didn't get an accounting internship this summer. I'm working in an office instead.

>>6732768
he can work for the university

>no college
>close to 40k if i work a little overtime

I'm a wageslave but at least I have a job and make more than enough to live the lifestyle that I want.

What's your guys' debt situation like?

>>6732683
>2015
>paying for a postgraduate degree.

You fucked up dude. Nobody is going to take the PhD that you bought seriously.

>>6733742
You're still much better off than any liberal arts major. You can get one next summer anyway if you're doing an extra year.

>>6733664
Spoken like a true wage slave.

>>6731882
It's the third softest science, after psychology and biology.

Why dont you become a proffesor?

>>6733804
If only there weren't enough of you fucks to vote in the welfare state. Then you'd be starving to death like you deserve. I hate communism but let me tell since that's the part of the world I'm from, they'd have no time for you either and put a bullet in your head.
the West is socialist now too, income tax is theft[\spoiler]

>>6733827
Oh I work full time, but there's no reason that everyone should have to work full time. So many people are unemployable, and there are enough resources to take care of them with dignity, so what's the point? Social safety nets are horribly inadequate in this country, and if anything, they discourage people from working because of how limiting they are.

I don't think I could be considered a communist though. I think that the decoupling of labor from income is a good thing. Human labor is cheap, and that's good. Restructure the economy so we can reap the benefits of automation. There's no reason most people should be expected to toil away 40 hours a week if they don't want to.

>>6733876
People can do whatever the fuck they want, but that doesn't give someone the right to take my hard earned money with the threat of deadly force to fund their lifestyle. If you want to work much go ahead and opt out of society that's fine, don't expect me to pay for you.

Abolish the welfare state and income tax, close the borders, kick out all illegals, end corporate cronyism and the system will be much fairer.

>>6733762
How many years did it take you to save 40k? Fellow wageslave here, had to drop out of school to make money.

>>6733895
Holy shit >>/aynrand/ please leave now.

>>6731885

A bachelor's is basically a high school degree at this point due to education inflation

>>6731885
You're just looking at the wrong employers. There are plenty of jobs for English majors. They just aren't flashy.

>>6733895
That's cute. A good social safety net is vital to a stable economy. Illegal immigration is not a threat to our economy. Corporate corruption is a problem, but that's how capitalism works. You can't decouple that without regulations and safety nets. Taxes are a good thing; they're a part of a fair and beneficial social contract that benefits everyone.

If you want to get rid of taxes, go live off the grid in the woods somewhere and don't bother your fellow citizens.

>>6732515
Is this fucking real?

>>6733923
I said income taxes. I don't have a problem with reasonable excise taxes. Also, legal immigration is maybe a bigger problem than illegal. And a social net is NOT needed for any but the truly physically incapable, but that can be funded out of charitable intent and the control taken away from government, then the efficiency will be vastly improved. Corporate cronyism is not the free market, it's fancier fuedalism, socialism in practice being just a cruder example of the same totalitarian oligopoly.

Degrees, in general, are fairly meaningless. There's plenty of people who have degrees, but don't know a damn thing about whatever their degree is in.

A degree might get you in a door, but an employer is going to want to know what you actually know. I know tons of people i went to college with who can't get jobs, no surprise, they were the ones who half assed everything, did as little as they could to get by.

Employers aren't stupid, they know there's plenty of these kids and they try to weed them out.

As for english major, what kind of job are you trying to get into? I really hope you didn't think that getting an english major would magically make you a great writer, editor, or whatever. My english majors don't like to hear it, but you have to have some innate talent to be a writer, or anything creative in general. Studying it can help focus it, but if you don't have it in the first place you're wasting your time. Hell, I had profesors who were awful writers, that's why the became professors.

>you graduate magna cum laude
>he makes her cum loudly

>>6734266
Dumb frogposter

>>6731861
>Thinking a Phd in english is any better than a BA

You've got a lot to learn, kid.

>>6733664
can ideology get more pure than this?

maybe this idea would work if there were enough jobs for people who need to work, but there aren't, and there will only be fewer.

>bachelors in biochemistry
>only jobs are lab tech which i fucking hate

>>6731842
Get off your ass and look harder. Chances are you were reading for all the wrong reasons.

Wax poetic about "applying yourself."

Lol did you just read and study all day? Or did you go out and get work experience and volunteer while studying. The former proves that you're an introvert who is only capable of working by themselves for long periods of time. So you may have an extended knowledge of literature and an impressive vocabulary, but you have 0 experience in other fields so why should you get hired?

>>6733684

Hmm not him but life does work like that. Usually you find those kinds of jobs in the public service. For example, myself I got my starting gig as basically a just a personal assistant to my local member - almost anyone could have gotten the job, but since I had a degree I got it and they bumped the pay up a small amount too due to the degree.

So I had a 40k starting job and I pretty much just showed up and didn't slack off and eventually they assume you're ready for a promotion and you just keep doing that until you hit like 70k then you either show some initiative/ingenuity and keep going or you just rest on 70k and be a chill nigger.

>>6733665
This, minus the drugs and whores because I'm too boring and straight laced. I have no idea why educated people work menial jobs or no jobs at all when they could easily be having crazy adventures on the other side of the world.

>>6733760
Brah, the days when a PhD in a subject would reliably get you a lecturing position in that subject are long gone. Far too many PhDs chasing far too few jobs.

Or do you mean admin? If so, the requirements are the same for office jobs anywhere, ie experience is far more important than education level in an unrelated subject.

>>6734013
Yes. LOA are having to diversify as they can't get the rights to the major works they want to publish.

>>6732833
Ain't even jesting famalamalam

Plenty of jobs like that exist, and in 15 years so many more jobs will be online.

>you will never cum laude with Anna May Wong

>>6731842
Why not just study linguistics, then every fucking major language on a beginner level.

>>6734667
Yeah, its actually really easy to have an interesting life if you are a westerner, and yet people squander it. People are such cowards.