/lit/ - Literature

Also related readings: Julius Evola, Frithjof Schuon, Rene Guenon, Hossein Nasr

the second one

>interested in spengler's historical idealism
>try to talk about spengler
>DO YOU THINK LE NOSTRADAMUS PREDICTED THE HOLOHOAX?? CAN UNCLE FESTER PREDICT THE STOCK MARKET???
>tfw

One of the greatest metaphysicians of the 20th century. It's disgustingly accurate and extremely pessimistic because he poses that there's nothing we can do about anything. There isn't any sugarcoating or fake liberal optimism here. He's probably too quaint and not enough of a pessimist in retrospect. One of the best of Nietzsche's progeny.

>>6655861
The decline of the west has become the centrepiece to a new intellectual movement in the right wing.

There is something that is showing in evidence even on /lit/, that there is a new thought on society which is quite amazing. I'll argue it from the perspective of the memes which dominate this place.

A natural meme is simple, eloquent and conveys a message. "Start with the greeks" for example, has a lot more to it than people think.

The reason to start from the beginning is so that you can understand the obscure references, irony tastes and esoteric teachings of the ancient works. Then it becomes quite easy to see them in western works. The meme conveys that and is quite an accurate open secret on /lit/.

As for Spengler, it began as a rather small scale /pol/ meme with an intellectual touch. The reason is that he conveys the very feeling which we feel about the decline of our society and gives us an explanation. This also happens to co-exist with other philosophers who seem to carry great pessimism about the decline of society, who are rather rather prominent of /lit/.

There is something to this line of thought that is very tempting. It is probably a sign of our "second religiousness" in the sense that everyone has become fascinated with mysticism. Not in the sense of religious devotion, but rather in the possibility of predicting the future, the "cool stuff of science" which is constantly paraded across the internet, the almost prophetical nature of economists in our age and the irrational idealism of the modern state in the form of multicultural, absolute tolerance, endless desire for security, -isms and all that ridiculousness. From that we will see the rise of new religions and in many ways we have.

HEAR THAT?

ONLY POST ITT IF YOU HAVE READ THE BOOK
AND RELATED READING >>6655914

What would be considered the best edition of this book ?

The oxford abridged edition - (pic related)
or something else ?

I thinks it's full of amazing facts from history, even if the philosophy in it is pretty out there, someone called it a geological romanticism(Jaspers I think).

>>6655861
Can someone confirm a possible quote by this man.

I've been trying to find it for a while now.

It was something like...

"There are circumstances in history where a man is born who cannot be stopped" or something like that.


Any help would be appreciated.

>>6656396
I dont know but I cant find it on amazon

>>6656415

my heart,
my heart aches

who is this angel

>>6656415
who
is
this

>>6656464
Amazon UK has it.

>>6656281
>From that we will see the rise of new religions and in many ways we have.
People are nostalgic for the absolute. People wanna fill the void left behind by christianity. Nothing's gonna work of course.

>>6656415
my darling
smeg keg,
who
are
you?

>>6656415
>"There are circumstances in history where a man is born who cannot be stopped"
Hegel?

I'm a professional historian. The only place I see Spengler taken seriously is on 4chan.

>>6655861
He's entirely right, Western society is declining. Nonwhites and women's emancipation are ruining everything.

>>6658317
Academic historian? Figures.

For what it's worth, Harold Ramis loved Spengler enough to name Egon the ghostbuster after him.

My body is ready for the ivory tower scoff, but his imprint on the popular culture is not nothing.

See the Slate article normifying polyamory from yesterday as all the evidence I need that he knew what he was talking about regarding the senile stage of a culture.

>>6658468
is that an inherently bad thing?

>>6659735
I guess that depends on which you value more: A successful society or one where everyone can vote?

If you value the successful society, then yes, it is bad. If you value the absolute-emancipation society, then no, it's very good.

>>6656396
>abridged edition
anon...

>>6658468
you used to Tai Lopez method didn't you

>>6656281
Well fucking said.

>>6656281
Ya dun did good with that summation

>>6659727

I'm not going to scoff at you. It's a Nietzschean interpretation of Western history. But I don't think it's a very interesting one. I think the Geneology of Morals is a better Nietzschean history of the West.

If you're interested in a sophisticated "organic" approach to the study of history then read Giambattista Vico.

>>6659749

Have all of these liberated women been putting you in the friend-zone?

>>6659749
>A successful society or one where everyone can vote?

Interesting you frame it this way because I have personally been thinking that perhaps limiting suffrage might be beneficial; I don't really think we can go back at this point though largely because we lack proper aristocracy/nobility. We'd just be ruled by robber barons, although maybe that would be an improvement, albeit marginal.

>>6661571

>>6662109
jesus, since when does miss moneypenny look like a middleaged mongloid? not that she was pretty to begin with, but still...

>>6662109
>>6662119
This was when Penny eat an entire Toblerone and then drove to Dundee in her bare feet.

>>6662119
It's a shoop, silly

>>6658317
His book is a bestseller.

>>6655861
>muh degeneracy
right-wing philosophy is for people who can only live in the past

>>6662361
Have you even pretended to try reading anything past the title?

>>6658317
My introduction to Spengler was in a history class at my university, so other professional historians do seem to take him seriously.

Of course your special field might be the history and impact of transexuals and their struggle against the binary patriarchy in America, in which case I understand why you don't bother with him.

>>6662361
That's not what the book is about, though.

It's ok, /pol/ seems to think it is too, because they are also too stupid to read it, so you are not alone.

>>6658317
Not surprising considering how the study of history has been completely taken over by Marxists.

ITT: memers who haven't read the book

>>6662783

>introducing a key historical text in an undergraduate history class
>taking that author seriously as an historian/theorist/philosopher of history

I've had my students read Mein Kampf.

Incidentally, I've been noticing more and more of you neckbearded uebermensch taking my undergraduate classes.

>>6662503
Underrated post