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Are Adam and Eve in hell?

>> No.6658939

No anon, they aren't real.

>> No.6658948

>>6658939
>>>/edgy/

>> No.6658953

You can only go to hell after Jesus so they probably just suffered in Purgatory until then.

>> No.6658957

>>6658939
/thread

>> No.6658962

>>6658939
/thread

>> No.6658964

>>6658939
/thread

>> No.6658977

>>6658939
/thread

>> No.6658981

>>6658957
>>6658962
>>6658964
>>6658977
>>>/r/atheism

>> No.6658983

>>6658935
/thread

>> No.6658989

>>6658935
They lived before Christ so...

Their fate is that of Virgil's im guessing

>> No.6658990

>>6658948
>commonly accepted opinions are edgy
>this neo-christian reactionary movement
>this ridiculous fear of being associated with a specific kind of hat

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>>6658935
1st Corinthians 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

basically Jesus saves all of the sons of Adam including Adam

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>>6658981
Why go to /r/atheism, when /r/atheism can come here?

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>>6658991
>image for tumblr
>quoting bible
Imbecile spotted.

>> No.6659004

>unironically believing in fairy tales

>> No.6659008

>>6658991
so what happened to adam between his death and the coming of jesus

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>>6659004
"hurr durr le fedora maymay"
"go back to /r/atheism with your edgy belieefsss"
mfw these religious wackos do this.

>> No.6659036

>>6658990
>this complete ignorance of theology

>> No.6659050

>>6658939
/thread

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>>6659036
>an entire discipline about an imaginary friend is worthwhile
Stay pleb my friend.

>> No.6659064

>>6659036
I am also ignorant of Phrenology, Astrology and Alchemy.

Can you guess why?

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>>6659064
because you're intellectually inferior and wear stupid hats

>> No.6659163

>>6659061
>>6659064
Typical.
Someone who is totally ignorant of the king of sciences calling *someone else* pleb.
Its like arguing that Naruto is literary but the Aeneid is useless "because it's old".
Never change, /lit/.
Never. Change.

>> No.6659194

>>6659000
poor guy passed away last month

>> No.6659217

>>6659163
*CITATION NEEDED*

Don't worry, we won't.

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6659225

>>6659109
How can you tell if you aren't feeling up my head-lumps?

>> No.6659241

>>6659008
Probably not much. Pre-Christian Judaism did not have a very developed sense of the afterlife.

The soul went to Sheol, which was basically a neutral sort of place comparable to the Greek underworld.

>> No.6659277

>>6659217
Citation needed *for what*?

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>>6658939

>> No.6659284

>>6658939
>>6658957
>>6658964
>>6658990
>>6659000
>>6659004
>>6659002
>>6659013
>>6659061
>>6659064
Daily reminder that the /lit/s favorite book based on our official poll is the Bible and athietards have no place on our board.

http://imgur.com/gallery/rsNBfsi

>> No.6659288

>>6659225
That's a horrible picture. Sports don't even synch up with the motor cortex. Fuck that noise

>> No.6659292

>>6659288
That's the point.jpg

>> No.6659300

Here's a solution I think works for everyone.
Mass suicide. Would you all please shuffle or wheelchair yourselves to the edge of the nearest twelve-story building, please? You'll jump in two hours.

>> No.6659316

>>6658939
>>6658957
>>6658962
>>6658964
>>6658977
>>6658983
>>6659036
>>6659050
>>6659278
Samefag,
theres more replies than posters in this thread

>> No.6659339

>>6658957
>>6658962
>>6658964
>>6658977
>>6658983
>>6659050
i feel like im on fucking /mu/

>>>/mu/

they love memes and everybody posting the same thing

>> No.6659346

FILTHY ATHEIST SCUM STOP TRIGGERING MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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6659364

Reminder.

>> No.6659374

>>6659364
please delete this image, it is very offensive to christianity

>> No.6659382

How autistic are you? What is it about the bible that triggers so many people into shitposting about how Christianity isn't real and not worth discussion but other works of fiction are embraced with open arms?

>> No.6659397

>>6659382
Endless Christposting tbh.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, friend.

>> No.6659400

>>6659397
i think you mean "Salvationposting"
ACCEPT JESUS
ACCEPT JESUS
ACCEPT JESUS

>> No.6659439

>>6659064
Can you let me know when any of those fields produces a work of comparative literary value to the Bible?

>> No.6659455

>>6659439
Theology isn't the study of literary value.

it's the study of excuses for why there is no evidence for God, and assorted other hoops through which to jump.

>> No.6659460

>>6659439
there are lots of religious texts that prominently feature astrology. actually the bible does too.

they're all a crock of shit tho
including the bible of course

>> No.6659464

>>6659455
you can say the same thing about the study of anything

>> No.6659470

ITT People pissing on a thousand years of their own culture and traditions

>> No.6659487
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>>6658935
"Christposting" is the worst meme ever. Augustine and Kierkegaard, among others, are some of the most important milestones in western philosophy, yet you can't start a thread about either without somebody yelling "christposting".

>> No.6659490

>>6659008
He was in the limbo of the patriarchs. Those were saved during the Harrowing of Hell

>> No.6659523

>>6658935
Seeing as they're just metaphors for original sin, they're probably not

>> No.6659542

>>6659194
>poor guy
he brought it on himself.

>> No.6659543

>>6658939
>>6659004
>>6659523
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the OP probably doesn't actually believe in the literal existence of Adam and Eve, but is rather asking a theoretical question about two characters portrayed in a piece of literature.

>> No.6659628

>>6659487
You people don't use philosophers the way they should be used. To regard any philosopher without skepticism is to be a dogmatist, a hater of wisdom.
People do the same thing with other philosophers, but Christians act like because their philosopher was important and was Christian it means they are correct. I got some news for you: most of the Greeks were Hellenists and they are even more important. The threads you Christians start about Kierkegaard and Augustine regard Christianity as fact, because their philosophies are based on it. But what makes those philosophers great are what they say that is universal.

>> No.6659640

>>6659628
Christian philosophers disagreed considerably with each other, and John Milbank is almost defined by his dislike of Duns Scotus. Come off it, ,m8

>> No.6659649

>>6659163
How can one apply to science what one applies to art in regards to time? Facts are eternal, art is eternal, but knowledge is ever changing. The legacy of science has nothing to do with the validity of it.

>> No.6659707

>>6659640
Then how come with Christians on /lit/, the mere existence of Christian philosophers is proof of god? The closest thing you get resembling an argument itself rather than namedropping a theologian or philosopher is someone posting that first way picture accompanied by some of the worst defenses of it imaginable. I know Christian philosophers disagreed with each other. J and P disagreed with each other. Yet Christianity itself is exempt from the rule that anything can be disagreed with, according to the shitposters.

>> No.6659721

>All these christfags' butthurt
Glorious

>>6659640
>Tripfag in charge of understanding anything
>>6659628 was trying to say how christfag revere christian philosopher coz of their religion not whether other christian philosopher disagree with each other. The problem isn't Christians or Christainity, the problem is christposters being retarded on /lit/

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>>6659284
>our board
Don't you mean MY board? You're all just my little roaches; little mice going through the elaborate maze I constructed.

>> No.6659756

i'm an atheist but i genuinely want an answer to OP's question because i'm curious

OP should have prefaced with "humor me for a moment:" and maybe this thread wouldn't have devolved into adolescent arguing.

>>6658939
this is a literature board, and the bible is literature. them being real doesn't matter. this is shitposting

>> No.6659910

>>6659737
oh wow, you're on /lit/ now. Amazing.

>> No.6659952

>>6659756
>i'm an atheist but i genuinely want an answer to OP's question because i'm curious
>It being real doesn't matter

You're right anon, your comment is shitposting.

>> No.6659988

Adam and eve were most likely in the good side of sheol until jesus came and preached to those imprisoned there.

Adam and while the first sinners, also still worshipped the Lord and taught their children to worship the Lord.

So they were most likely saved by Christ.

"Bosom of Abraham" and all that.

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>>6658935
There is no hell, is an idea from the Christian Theology, but let's pretend it's real, along with Adam and Eva, they probabily went to Paradise considering Dante put Adam in Paradise in his Divine Comedy, so this makes me thing that at least in the middle ages they were considered to have their place in Paradise.

>> No.6660091

>>6659756
>>6659490

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>>6659000
>fedora#248

mind dumping 1-247? I need to bolster my collection.

>> No.6660279

>>6660259
fuck off

>> No.6660371

>>6658939
/thread

>> No.6660385

No, mankind's suffering as well as a separation from God was their punishment.

They believed what they were doing was, in some way, virtuous. They did not reject their father, one will only go to Hell if they reject God.

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>>6659163
>theology is king of sciences

>> No.6660506

Did Hell even exist in Genesis? I thought they were just turned to the "dust from which they came."

>> No.6660705

>>6660432
>le funny 'science means natural science' me me

>> No.6660725

>>6660705
Read Kant.

>> No.6660729

if god kills himself does he go to hell?

>> No.6660734

>>6660725
I have, read history you illiterate brat.

>> No.6661070

>>6660729
No. His immortality is necessary to existence and he certainly can't be confined within part of his own creation.

>> No.6661081

>>6661070
>omnipotent
>can't kill himself
why are christians so retarded

>> No.6661087

From what he said, we can conclude that nowhere near the actual ontology is the truth. Creating and building their truth is a form of fallacy that can not be avoided. Therefore it is true. I don't see why not.

>> No.6661093

>>6661081
Anon never said he couldn't

He said that god couldn't be trapped by a lesser creation and that if he died hell would cease to exist anyway

I'm not even a christfag, step it up retard

>> No.6661100

Can God divide by zero?

>> No.6661103

>>6658935

Since Adam and Eve brought Death into the world and that means no Death before God exiled them from the Garden of Eden does that mean Adam or Eve is Death?

>> No.6661119

>>6661103
No, because animals and plants could die prior to that

Adam and Eve just introduced it to mankind

>> No.6661120

>>6660729
Christ went to hell when he died, so yeah.

>> No.6661137

>>6661119
Yeah they do. It is in their nature to think of themselves as lesser beings. Your relativism sucks. Go read Aristotle you fucking degenerate. Do you not see the correlation between the real world and most of Him? They're everywhere. They're watching me.
Bling bling here's the Taliban. I want mods to do a little ban ban.

Ban religious/atheism threads. They are serious cancer. Please make it stop.

>> No.6661165

>>6659649
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck anon. Fuck. I was religious until just now. I forgot science disproved theology. Fuuuuck. Could you link me to the source again, I lost it

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>>6658935
@Priest mode on.@
Only Gracious Lord God knows all sins of sinful people and He directs his soul into the appropriate places.
@Priest mode off@

>> No.6661191

>>6661165
God is the source of everything. Even porn. I like to fap to some crazy ass shit nigger. I like it when they bleed you feel me? It's all good.

>> No.6661202

>>6661191
Source of sins is devil.

>> No.6661212

>>6661202
And who do you think the source of the devil is?

>> No.6661217

>>6661191
And God is good. God is everything. Even my hard cock that I get for that little boy across the street.

Wait a second. I just realized that this is not funny. I can't make fun of this. Especially not the little children. They're innocent. I'll stop now. God blows you all.

My cream is my shit. I like to eat it so take this post and well... It's a shitpost. How do we crap even more? How do we take a massive amount of dump and trow it on a pile of dump that you already created here? Tough to answer.

>> No.6661235

>>6661190
>priest
>on 4chan
>priest on 4chan
Oh, yeah, I guess that actually makes sense.

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>>6661190
>@Priest mode on.@

>> No.6662188

>>6661212
your mom assshole
stop fucking replying to me with these idiotic questions

>> No.6662192

>>6661235
Probably the one who starts all those Lolita threads and brings up NAMBLA whenever Ginsburg is mentioned.

>> No.6662243

>>6658939
/thread

>> No.6662377

>>6658939

/thread

>> No.6662383

>>6659628
>doesn't understand the radical skepticism inherent to Kierkegaard
Ha, ha. Oh, wow.

>> No.6662389

>>6659756
This. Seriously. This was always lits attitude until pol showed up

>> No.6662417

>>6659910
they've been here all along, really

>> No.6662482

>>6660734
Why history?