/lit/ - Literature

I've never read Hegel. Explain the joke, though.

>>6638648
bagel rhymes with hegel

>>6638663
It doesn't.

>>6638671
it does too bad

>>6638663
>>6638676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SXTIuYzVfQ

'no'

>>6638663
Bagel, IPA: 'beJɡəl'
Hegel, IPA: 'heːɡəl'

Yeah, 'eJ' totes rhymes with 'heː'

>>6638682
>everyone uses the same phonemes

>>6638681
nope too bad

>>6638692
Names are supposed to be pronounced the same in all languages, you damned American

the bagel is the sublated object par excellence. within the center of its circle is the seed of the negative waiting to be dialectically consumed in the act of eating.

bay-gull
hay-gull
sounds good to me

The joke is that Hegel, would he have ever been a bagel baker, would not have sold his product as a secondary item in someone else's store. The fact that it is Kafka's cafe makes the absurdism poignant and elevates the Kafka aspect of the joke further, while simultaneously illustrating that Hegel was a bitch.

>>6638731
i hope you're joking

The joke is that you guys watch The Simpsons past season 8.

>>6638648

Hegel thinks valid logic and history and lots of other weird shit moves according to a pattern of thesis, antithesis and synthesis which then becomes a new thesis for an antithesis. Wherever you start, if you keep doing this, you're supposed to end up with the realization that we're all God and physical reality is just different expressions of ourselves or something wacky romanticist insane like that.

OP seems to think the joke is that the bagel is the thesis, the hole in the middle an antithesis and having eaten up the bagel the synthesis. I don't think that's the joke though. Wouldn't the synthesis be something like bagel and not-bagel at the same time? >>6638663 is probably what the show writers intended.

>>6638769
The joke is that your simple mind works in the binary of 'pre' and 'post' season 8, considering everything post to be bad even though many of the episodes contained therein contain a mixture of good and shitty jokes, and intelligent people can differentiate from the good and bad jokes within the episodes

>>6638920
Intelligent people don't watch Simpsons.

>>6638681
I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING.

THIS IS HOW I WILL DIE.

IT WAS NICE KNOWING

YOU

>>6638926
*after season 9

>>6638648
Thesis + anti-thesis = progress towards a synthesis which will eventually encounter even more anti-theses ad nausium

>>6638926
Intelligent people watch Simpsons just for the mathematical jokes

>>6638648
Pic related.
Also
>http://sites.google.com/site/xockcin/home/thetrueisthehole

>>6638671
Its anglicanized. Its like how we say Kam'us instead of Ka'moo

>you will never visit Stirners milk bar

>>6638787
>thesis, antithesis and synthesis


Kill yourself.

>>6639518
>Pronouncing the [s]
Jesus Christ how horrifying. I'm an American and if you do this where I'm from you get laughed at.

>>6639583
???

>>6638711
Simultaneously as its being is consumed, the bagel reveals that the nothing at its center was as much its essence as the something which provided the structure of its substance :)

>>6639588
If you talk about Camus where I'm from you get laughed at

>>6639588
Its a somewhat common last name here and they pronounce it with the s

>>6639518
No intelligent English-speaker does that.

>>6639623
speak with their own accent?

>>6639592
If you ever actually read Hegel you'd know that those terms have nothing to do with him.

>>6639602
"Hyuck hyuck hyuck, ain't that right Billy-Bob"

LMAO BAGELS

Did anyone said bagel?

>>6638703
>pretending you can correctly pronounce the phonemes of a language you didn't grow up with
Get a load of this pretentious asshole, folks.

>>6639725
>not having the balls to at least try to pronounce things correctly
Amerifats in action

they rhyme:
hegel (like heg-gull)
bagel (beg-gull)

>>6639602
>Camus where I'm from you get laughed at
>where I'm from

daily reminder you post on 4chin

>>6639633
Mispronounce French names and claim it's acceptable. Intelligent English speakers who don't speak French admit the fact and move on.

aghbeght caghmu

>>6639725
Many people can, it isn't difficult. Also, I did grow up with German.

>>6638703
>mfw an american prounounces Quxiote as Kwik-sote

>>6640905
I've never heard that

>>6640536
What's your point? I'm not in some backwater shithole filled with mongoloids that can't into silent consonants.

>>6639655
yeah they are applied retroactively but they describe his thought well.

>>6640905

>my gamertag contains 'Quixote'
>literally every america fucks it up

>>6640905
that's actually more of a British thing. Most Americans are at least vaguely familiar with spanish pronunciations

>>6641036
>my gamertag contains 'Quixote'
you sound like a massive faggot tbh

>>6640905
Qui-hoe-tay

>>6637326
If the hole in the bagel is part of the bagel, then the rest of the world is part of the bagel

>>6641078
only if it's a 3d bagel

>>6640546
>French

Its Français plep

>>6639655
>actually reading Hegel
oh my god get a load of this cuck

>>6637326
Bagels are closed?

>>6641108
I don't read books! I don't! Freedom!

>>6641042
If only they had the same knowledge in English

It's cyclical you idiots, both in shape and nature.

You have a bagel, the bagel is composed from its elements, and is decomposed to its elements.
The process repeats with a new bagel, composed from the same elements and decomposed into the same elements as the cycle repeats.

In short, they're so good you want to eat them forever.

A bagel was chosen because it is more phonetically pleasing in conjunction to 'Hegel'

>>6641048
Maybe tis even "quixotic" it contains
Maybe tis a pun on "toxic"
All so much worse

>>6638769
This

German Idealism thread?

>>6641048

Emperor Quixote strikes fear into the hearts of millions of scrubs.

Bow down and beg for mercy

>Go on /lit/
>HEGEL BAGEL
Christ I've been gone for a long time, what the fuck.

The joke is about bad American education - everybody thinks hegel rhymes with bagel, because they do not know how to pronounce 'hegel'

The joke is apparently 40+ years old:

> Before you let that patient in, please tell us, Doc Lacan,
> The latest dope from Lévi-Strauss, Derrida and de Man.
> What symptomatic concepts may we now disseminate?
> What phallic simulacra may we “cluster” or sublate?
> Can dialectic referent be structured after Hegel?
> Will nominal concretions truly supersede the bagel?
> And does the signifier really mean the signified?
> O merde, Lacan, your patient just committed suicide!

>>6642434
The "gel" does rhyme, though. Is it too dominated by the long "bay" to be considered a proper rhyme?

>>6644442

Why would you be so pedantic as to worry about it? Pronunciation is fluid.

>>6644476
Fluh-id.

I thought the joke was they were a dingy bar that explained away the cockroaches by calling it Cafe Kafka and making literary puns on their food.

>>6644476
I'm not the one who keeps sperging out over it, just wondering

>itt: people who can't pronounce bagel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ba4dwyLMQY