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6630815 No.6630815 [Reply] [Original]

>But let`s go back: the problem with the other origin of the "good," of the good as the man of resentment has imagined it for himself, demands some conclusion. That lambs are annoyed at the great predatory birds is not a strange thing, and it provides no reason for holding anything against these large birds of prey, because they snatch away small lambs. And if the lambs say among themselves "These predatory birds are evil - and whoever is least like a predatory bird - and especially who is like its opposite, a lamb - shouldn`t that animal be good?" there is nothing to find fault with in this setting up of an ideal, except for the fact that the birds of prey might look down with a little mockery and perhaps say to themselves "We are not at all annoyed with these good lambs - we even love them. Nothing is tastier than a tender lamb."
>To demand that strength does not express itself as strength, that it must not consist of a will to overpower, a will to throw down, a will to rule, a thirst for enemies and opposition and triumph - that is as unreasonable as to demand that weakness express itself as strength. A quantum of force is just such a quantum of drive, will, action - indeed, it is nothing but these drives, willing, and actions in themselves - and it cannot appear as anything else except through the seduction of language (and the fundamental errors of reason petrified in it), which understands and misunderstands all action as conditioned by something which causes actions, by a "Subject."
>When the oppressed, the downtrodden, the conquered say to each other, with the vengeful cunning of the powerless, "Let us be different from evil people, namely, good! And that man is good who does not overpower, who hurts no one, who does not attack, who does not retaliate, who hands revenge over to God, who keeps himself hidden, as we do, who avoids all evil and demands little from life in general - like us, the patient, humble, and upright" - what that amounts to, coolly expressed and without bias, is essentially nothing more than "We weak people are merely weak. It`s good if we do nothing, because we`re not strong enough."

Is he right /lit/?

>> No.6630829

>"Just eat your breakfast Hazel" her father replied.

>> No.6630843
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>Asked about novelist John Green, who took his own life in 2008, but who has a new book out, “Crash Course: Postmoderism,” put together from manuscript chapters and files found in his computer, David Foster Wallace says, “You know, I don’t want to be offensive. But ‘The Fault in Our Stars’ [regarded by many as Green’s masterpiece] is just awful. It seems ridiculous to have to say it. He can’t think, he can’t write. There’s no discernible talent.”

I don't always agree with DFW, but he's pretty spot on here.

>> No.6630899
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>>6630843
http://fishingboatproceeds.tumblr.com/post/33082188276/david-foster-wallace-and-the-current-malaise

>dfw john green loves dfw and probably browses /lit/

>> No.6630912

>>6630815
Why did you post John Green beside a Nietzsche quote?

You thought we hadn't read beyond good and evil?

>> No.6630921

>>6630912
hahaha ur too smart for OP
eggs Dee :DDD

>> No.6630935

>>6630899
>>6630843
I feel as though DFW would actually be vicious to Green.
>"the smell of cunt in the air"
>liking someone who makes 15 minutes videos of fedora tipping *m'lady*

>> No.6630936

"If there's a tuba there it's not a party."
This guy is a genius and y'all are butthurt because he's raking in the money.

>> No.6630948

>>6630912
>You thought we hadn't read beyond good and evil?
It's from genealogy of morals. I feel confident most of /lit/ hasn't read it.

>> No.6631195

>>6630935
I think John Green would let David fuck his wife

>> No.6631211

>>6631195
I don't think David's the kind of guy who'd ask for permission.

>> No.6631230

>>6631195
Top cuck

>> No.6631436
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>>6630829
nice

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>>6630815
>Nothing is tastier than a tender lamb."
Nope, cherios are better tbh

>> No.6632542

>>6631457
>that image
christ

>> No.6632568

>>6632542
There's this thing suffusing through all his work -- his videos, his novels -- where there's this manifest attitude of having said something brilliant and important (esp. the whole motif in the videos nowadays of 'imagining people complexly' that apparently is the theme of Looking for Alaska and Paper Towns, etc.) but it's all just trite bullshit in cheap façades.
Also: PT = WGWG >> LFA = AAOK > TFIOS