/lit/ - Literature

>>6625927
guacamole eating retard

borges is a meme writer

>>6625927
Ay mijito!

>>6625927
Huehuehuehuehue brbrbrbr gib moni or i report u

>black argie detected

Argentina is such a joke of a country-- they are legitimately the laughing stock of Latin America. Seriously. Your economy defaults on its own debt every dozen or so years. The Kirchners have carelessly exposed the overwhelming corruption that plague Argentina. The only thing you have is MESSI MESSI MESSI, but we all know that he will get caught for using performance enhancing drugs. Lastly, I would like to state that Borges is a hack and probably the worst meme on this board. He's not even Latin American cannon.

Latin america was colonized by europeans, whereas all those other places' people are natives.

So of course they did. It is only natural.

>>6626543
Borges is the foundation of the Latin American canon.

Not all of Asia, sorry OP.

>>6626558
No that's Machado de Assis you fucking disgusting pleb

>>6626558
>mfw he didn't even win the nobel prize in literature

>>6626558
Unfortunately.

>>6626565
you have to be circumcised for that

>>6626558
>>6626581
Gombrowicz was right when he uttered his last words when departing from Argentina back to France: "Kill Borges". Bolano recognized this.

Africa and Oceania yes but not Asia

Chinks have some yrippy shit and japs wrote about being wanting to be white so that made them better than niggers who were mad that they aren't white

>>6626622
>>6626561

Better than Asia in literary fiction for sure. In terms of philosophy maybe not, but most of Eastern "philosophy" is onto-theology anyway.

>>6626609

>listening to what structuralist hack has to say

>>6626656
>listening to what structuralist hack has to say

You're literally retarded.

>>6626667

Quality posting. Both Ferdydurke and Trans-Atlantic contain structuralist themes. Many of his odd neologisms describe/parody sociological conditions from structuralist viewpoint. I read an article that later in life he was very critical of Frenchies, but neither I read anything of his late work nor he probably realized that he is using the same rhetoric like structuralists.

>>6626753
No, stop. You're genuinely stupid. Think before you post. I'm not even fully disagreeing with you, but you're just retarded in the way you present information. Learn to formulate your thoughts. Also, don't lecture me on Gombrowicz, I did my MA thesis on him. I can tell you don't know what you're talking about, but I am willing to listen to you if you stop being stupid.

>>6626779

Pinpoint one thing I said that was outright wrong in your opinion. Because after reading both novels these are exact lines which Gombrowicz's critique of Polish society goes along. Keywords he manufactured are nothing else, but a parody of cultural elements understood in relation to the overreaching post-feudal system that he despises. That's a clear structuralist theme to me used also by likes of Barthes. Moreover in the second post my thoughts are well formulated.

If your gripe is my generalisation from the first post then that's fucking 4chan. Inflammatory generalisations are a daily bread here and mine wasn't even particularily invalid.

>>6626920
The very fact that you called him a structuralist instead of a proto-structuralist -- at most --discredited you. Read more.
>thoughts are well formulated.
Not at all.
Truly one of the dumbest namfags on this board.

>>6626962
>implying he's not a proto-post-structuralist

>>6626962
>called him a structuralist instead of a proto-structuralist

OH THE HORROR. I'm not sure if it's a language barrier or your comprehesion that sucks, but you should apply your filter to yourself - you're not providing any substantiated critique of what I've written and half-assedly jumping over semantics. If you think that not adding a "proto-" prefix, in relation to someone who was contemporary to development of given school of thought, is a legitimate criticism then you're laughable.

I'd perhaps call you a dumbest anon on this board, but I've seen worse and that's saying much.

>>6627044
Your posts keep getting more retarded. This is getting amusing.

>>6627052

>that will show him

You're amusing anon. Goes to show any simpleton can have a degree now.

>>6627087
>doesn't understand GOmbrowicz
>hur you're a simpleton
Goes to show any simpleton with access to the internet can pretend they understand a writer.
Kill yourself my man

>>6627098

You're doing an awful job at logically justifying yourself. I'm sorry for your promoter or whoever had to review your thesis. Stop posting anytime anon, it will be better for all of us.

>>6627108
Justifying what? I'm not justifying anything, actually. You're retarded. I wonder how many other writers you pretend to understand.

>>6627116

>Justifying what? I'm not justifying anything, actually.

I've seen that already.

>>6627127
>I've seen that
>says I'm doing x
You're either genuinely retarded, or just terrible at b8. But anyways, your probably retarded enough to call Gombrowicz lacanian since you probably -- I'm being extremely generous here -- noticed elements of Lacan's Real in Gombrowicz's works. Notwithstanding, you're too retarded to understand lacan expropriated most of his ideas from Gombrowicz.

I disagree

>>6628034
Gr8 b8 tbh

Borges was just a self-loathing of europe fag. He hated the spanish language and hated himself more for not being able to write in other languages.

>1>0
Wow

>>6626558
>What's machado de assis

thank you for the reminder

HACK
A
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Fuck off.

>>6630402
why does she have a beard

>>6626558
>He doesn't know about Machado De Assis

>>6630410
Why are you a transphobe?

Yeah, the best writer of Latin America is better than the best writers of those other continents in my opinion too. Thats pretty high standards though, especially when comparing it to countries with completely different literary traditions. .

>>6626609

>two talentless hacks trying to diss the greatest american writer of all times

kek

>>6631374
Schoolboy.
>thinking bolano was "dissing" Borges
O I am lauffin, you retarded pleb

>>6630416
It's not about "knowing"; it's about Borges being an author people actually give a shit about.

>>6631960
>not knowing people who give a shit about Machado de Assis
Now I only have pity for those who keep the company of such tasteless plebs

>>6631960

see >>6631965

>>6625927

Lots of crucial latin american literature remains untranslated. I'm still baffled as to why there isn't a single translation of Alfonso Reyes'(whom even Borges acknowledges to be the greatest) work.

>>6626543
Argentina has produced tremendous and great talented writers that have influenced latin american canon, please research more.

Mexican comrade backing up a los boludos.

>>6632202
shhh dont tell this plebs about Reyes

>>6632202
There is, the Mexican publisher "Fondo de cultura económica" translated a few of his essays and stories.

http://www.fondodeculturaeconomica.com/librerias/Detalle.aspx?ctit=017494E

Asia > Latin America > Oceania > Africa

I agree with that statement, but it's simple observation really. I'm Latin American.

The only problem I'd have with how (pleb) foreigners perceive Latin American literature is trying to turn everything else into a mod of Borges or García Márquez.

There are countless other authors in the same level or better than those, namely Machado de Assis, Guimarães Rosa, Vargas Llosa, José Enrique Rodó... the latter is disheartening because he is so little known even here but has written one of the major works that displays the Latin American soul in Ariel.

>>6632222

well this is news to me, thanks for the info. However, I still believe his complete works deserve to be translated to every language.

>>6632238
Indeed, one of the greatest authors of Mexico. I havent read the translation (I mean, I don't need to because my mother language it's spanish) but when I saw that book on a book store I was tempted to buy it to see how the translation worked. However It was quite expensive, well for a university student though.

Any native Nip or Chink speakers able to weigh in?

I've always wondered, considering how unrelated the languages are, how many of their great works actually get translated to English, and, when they are, to what degree their significant, beauty, etc are lost.

From what I've seen, the foreign writers who cross-culturally penetrate the most are minimalists--I suppose they're easier to translate. And when I think about it in those terms, Hemingway and his kin would be a super shit representative of the English canon.

>>6625927
Sounds like someone doesn't know enough Asian literature.

>>6632530
how do I into Asian literature?

just started reading borges

>>6633333
>those digits