/lit/ - Literature

>>6597684
Any book or movie about Nazi Germany inevitably boils down to >muh 66 gorillion

>>6597962
It that so or this is just another dank meme?

>>6597984
damn near the dankest meme there is but also its true

>>6597853
maybe you should actually fucking read the book. snyder puts the holocaust at 5.7 million. and the first half of his book is about soviet crimes

>>6598280

ov vey what an anti-semite, everyone knows 6 million of the chosen were shoahed by the Nazi's, how dare he pick a lower number, I'll have you know I am contacting the anti-defamtion league at this very moment to demand that they have this vile piece of Nazi propaganda withdrawn from amazon and bookstores.

>>6598326
Fuck off kike lord, we have more skin heads here than /pol/.

>>6598391
images are the wrong way around

Template anyone?

>>6597661
How accessible would you say it is? I'd be curious to give it a try.

first book i've gone all the way through in like five years

>>6598486
What are you doing on this board then?

>>6598546

im just here for some top notch banter with some cheeky lads

>>6598556
I voted the same.

>>6598556
same

>>6598486
How'd you like that ending?

>>6598556
regular reminder

>>6598556
>>6598546
I'm just messin with ya, I haven't read the book, just seen the movie which was great

:)

>>6598422
Very accessible, not very long either.

>>6598656
kek I have no idea what that poll was for, everyone except newfags knows lit is for literary memes and bantz

>>6599542
>newfags
Must be the 24%

>>6597661
That's them greeks for you. Honestly every fucking book I've read has been that way with the ancients.

>>6598391

this

>>6598217

This is probably bait, but I did have a bit of fun with this book. I liked the parts having to do with music, and thought that the mary sueness was going to pay off when he actually turned out to fuck everything up. The alarm bells only really started ringing with the Felurian part in the second, and when I found out that the author is ginger too.

>>6598339
This is where people go when they realize /pol/ is too blinded by Jews to notice the fact that it's actually CAPITAL

>>6599976
>alissa nutting
On a related note, has anyone read the Necrophiliac by Gabrielle Wittkop?

>>6600006
no

>>6600006
no how is it?
I read necrophilia variations by supervert

>>6600056
I haven't read it either, it's on the /lit/ wiki under modern erotic lit and I can't find much information about it
Was just wondering whether I should get it or not

>>6599801
Marty stu ginger, author ginger? You've gotta be kidding me

>>6597962
wow what a whacky image rofl xDD

>>6600006
Sure did. It was much better than I was expecting. Very dark, very French, but very funny, and the prose was thoroughly enjoyable.

>>6600103
This is madness!!! but i'm reading it anyway lel thx anon
ibn4 Necrophiliac

>>6599650
top kek

>>6597984
It's a dank meme but it's also true. Caesar's War Commentaries is mostly logistics.

>>6597661

yo does anyone have the finnegans wake one

>>6600889
Is that you're supposed to get? I just got pederasty.

>>6598556
It truly was the best response

>>6597962
THE CLASSIC!

>>6602141
Good, but not enough surrealism and "I am the Nietzchean-artist-hero."

>>6597661
Shits tellurian nigga.

>>6599695
So true.

>>6597661

>>6598638
Not that guy but I loved the ending, my favourite chapter. It just made such a joke of the rest of the book, I thought it was hilarious.

>>6602198
You got one where compression doesn't fuck up the writing on the whiteboard?

>>6597684

One the best books I've ever read.

>>6602539
I'm half way through right now and this is very fucking true. Did kek. Although if I did it, I would have just pasted in a picture of a bunch of angry kids fighting in a sandpit.

>>6602539
This

>>6602837
Ah, I added the moody kid to represent Achilles sulking. Glad ya liked it tho m8 ;)

>>6600721
>gray eyelashes cast a gray shadow
>she had the smile of someone who knows a lot

beautiful

Great book. But very different from what I expected.

10/10 highly recommended.

>>6603210
Is it even out? I only saw a couple of threads where parts were posted.

>>6603220
>Is it even out?
Nah, this is more of a sneak preview really.

>>6597962
fantastic

>>6597962
B A S E D C O R N
A S E D C O R N
S E D C O R N
E D C O R N
D C O R N
C O R N
O R N
R N
N

>>6603241
Asedcorn?
Sedcorn?
Edcorn?
Dcorn?
Corn?
Orn?
Rn?
N?

>>6603246
?

>>6597962

>>6597962
HE SAID THE THING!

>>6603210
Well so long as we're doing them for our own books now.

>>6598033
i now want to re-watch cannibal ferox

>>6598656

>>6600802
that file name though

>>6602539

Needs more boars

Please no corn father

>>6597962
There it is

this isn't eroctic this is a celebration of death and dead "...wedding funeral..." just like he said. eroticism has to be more vivid, more vibrant although lucien/lucifer proved again that "the only real temple in this world is the (living) human body" as he treated the corpses with affection, with utmost tenderness, but i'm sure there's no difference between caressing a peice of wood and a dead body (at least from a non nicrophiliac perspective).
the prose was subtle and arousing this is the only reason that motivated me to finish that novella damn some scenes killed my sex drive

>>6604381
interesting
I was the guy that asked about this

>>6603486
why did you post that a second time

>>6603210
Kenshiro with earmuffs slays me for some reason.

>>6605833
weeb get out

>>6605144
I got more of a "Its a conspiracy?, Wait is it? What is even going on? Have I been rused?"

>>6597962
Memes aside, is it a good read?

>>6605144
kek

>>6599650
that microwave scene... too fuckin much

i fully recognize the meme-status of dfw, but i really just love his work

I did like it though.

>>6599695
i have no idea what hegel is on about half the time

>>6597962
hold on a second, I thought the romans didn't believe in corn

Someone do grapes of wrath.

>no ones done one for Wolfe

>>6605853
Don't listen to this guy, stay.

>>6606137
Corn came from a little Gaulish village. Their champion ate it to resist the Romans and go on adventures there was a tiny enclave in Armorica no one talks about.

>>6606178
don't listen to this guy, kill yourself

>>6606193
Well I'll be. The legend continues to grow.

>>6606373
I was expecting more like this.

>>6606310
W-where's this from?

>>6606310
I'm picturing this being used in Interstellar instead of "Do not go gentle into that good night."

>>6606173
Do one then you fucking cunt fight me

>>6607311
here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQCoxB7raCw
get some sleep anon
nice dubs
>>6607375
nah
>>6607422
>>6606173
I've already done it before

>>6597962
YES
E
S

>>6602539

>Dorf Fort

DEM DORFS, MAN
DEM FUCKIN DORFS

>>6606231
Those weebs and their love of western books? You sure picked a board to use a word wrong while displaying your butthurt.

I love this one.

>>6605144

>>6608009
you forgot about >DUDE MY POLITICAL OPPONENTS SUCK DICK, LIKE LITERALLY LMAFO

Loved this book.

>>6599976
Read End of Alice instead, not erotica crap.

>>6608009
>no fart trumpet

>>6608203
I never understood this one. Explain

>>6597962
Corn is of South American origin and didn't exist in Roman times you moron

>>6608313
Have you read the book?

>>6608351

>>6608317
10/10

>>6608371
Yes.

>>6608351

>>6608453
Main character from No Longer Human hides behind this jokey persona that he has built. If you've seen interviews with Robin, you will notice that he can't go 30 seconds without jumping out of his chair and trying to make people laugh. Anything to avoid talking about himself.

They both develop severe alcoholism.

They both attempt suicide. One succeeded. The end of No Longer Human is told by a woman who knew the narrator, calling him a happy, lovable person.

>>6608189
Agreed
>1/8 War
>7/8 Out on the town with my pregnant other

>>6597661
I fuken love that album

>>6608351
lel

>>6608818
>Agreed
>>1/8 War
>>7/8 Out on the town with my pregnant other
read that as otter

>>6597661

>>6610045
wtf did i just, sorry anons

>>6597684
>>6597853
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/09/timothy-snyders-lies/

> Snyder will have none of it. His condemnation of the partisans is total. “Partisan warfare,” he writes, “was (and is) illegal, since it undermines the convention of uniformed armies directing violence against each other rather than against surrounding populations.” The effect of partisan warfare, therefore, was to exacerbate conditions in Belarus and other areas by subjecting locals to an “escalation of both German and Soviet violence.”

>>6597962
ohohohooooohhh OOHOHOHOHOHO

>>6598391
Top Kek

>>6602939
Amazing book. I love everything about it.

>>6608003
Dude I'm gonna have to say fuck you for this one

>>6608199

>>6602939
This is go(u)ld

>>6611086
you are an insecure manchild who probably has a healthy dose of Oedipus complex thrown. please just kill yourself and relieve us of your existence

>>6597962
magnificent

requesting the template, the only one google images will get me is too small

>>6614396
r u heavink laff?

>>6602198
i hated this book

>>6613958
That makes it sound like you didn't know anything about Dostoevsky before reading it.

>>6614401
No, I just can't find any bigger template than this:
http://plus4chan.org/boards/writ/src/123750963777.jpg

>>6597853

>>6614488
Why don't you just download one of the images posted and clear the boxes in paint?

>>6610075
There's a section of the book where he points to one particular group of partisans that actually defended jews primarily and did not treat civilians as resource like other Belarusian partisans.

>>6614493
It's so perfect that this picture actually exists. Adolf Hitler, the original fedora tipper.

>>6603356
Who's that whore?

please no corn father

>>6614528
That's still a pretty broad condemnation. How many people were in this single partisan group, compared to how many "bad" partisans? How else were people supposed to resist the Nazis (or the Russians, for that matter)?

The whole piece is worth reading, although if you're not a leftist you probably won't agree

>>6597661
OC.

>>6614598
You know, you're not wrong.

>>6602939
i remember how depressed i was after reading this, because i realized, i am the loser.
i love berhard though

>>6603333
>>>6603241 #
>Asedcorn?
>Sedcorn?
>Edcorn?
>Dcorn?
>Corn?
>Orn?
>Rn?
>N?
>3333

>>6614591
The point is that it didn't help them to resist, and those who chose not to resist were instead targetted by partisans and Nazis much harder because of those who did, and also that this was the already established outcome of partisan warfare which is why it was stupid to engage in it to begin with, and destructive of Soviet authorities to encourage it.

Compare it to the activities of the resistance movement on the western front and you see why it did more harm than good.

>>6600889
kek

>>6607288
Great. "I love you [not delivered]", goddamnit, all my feels.

>>6614598

>>6607288

that fuckin pocketknife, ugh

could woolf have made that symbol any more obvious

>>6614763
god damnit, the file filename. Lost

>>6614763
>>6614763
This memery really, REALLY makes me want to read some of him. Please tell me I can jump as a philosophy Noob in there somewhere having only read a very little of Nietzsche and Theroux.

>>6614843
You can do that no problem.

>>6613221
>tfw someone saved an image i made

>>6614854
You're not being sarcastic anon?

>>6613221
what is this about?

>>6614880
The Human Condition

>>6611086
The fedora guy is more like someone trying not to play society's "game" (and also seems like a neet who makes excuses for his lack of will) while Meursault was a man who just simply was an outsider who was aware of the things he should be feeling but instead embraces what he is truly feeling which seems to be nothing.

new anon spotted >>6614880

it's a collaborative pomo novel written by /lit/izens

>>6608253

Wow this is accurate.

>>6614874
I'm not him, but I think that if you have read Nietzsche, you can go ahead.

>>6606193
>*

>>6614912
I know what it is, I mean what is the plot

>>6614942
>plot
lol

>>6602198

>>6614980
This isn't true...

>>6614942
nooo there's no plot just weird anecdotes and crazy stuff lot of stream of consciousness and memeing but pleasant tbh so...

>>6610025
Could you explain the bit with Lenin?

>>6611086
>All nonconformists are fedoras
Please stop talking. Mersault always struck me as a smooth guy. Raymond sounds like he's straight out of a seventies gangster movie.

I recommend

>>6614542
>doesn't rhyme
Leave

>>6613221
Damn, this sounds good. Where can I find it?

>>6605949
It's pretty good. Caesar has a satisfying bluntness to his writing, it's all very straightforward and nonchalant. The battles are written in detail, and he gets up to some badass shit. I recommend reading it.

>>6600721
>Open is a Gorgon mask, her mouth didn't stop vomiting this juice until its odour filled the room.

>>6614924
Thank you.

>>6615075
This is THE reddit book

filled with le dank references, anyone else part of le wrong generation? I think the main problem with the references is the complete lack of subtlety, he makes a reference then almost always immediately explains it.

>>6600721
>gorgon mask

OC

>>6615289
mfw i have a reddit account exclusively to shit on the fuckers who jacked off to this book

>>6614542
>not even "bore whore"
You are a disgrace.

>>6614942
>reading for the plot

Movie is better.

>>6614903
Mostly it was a joke I didn't execute right, but Mersault was not as cool and comfortable with his emotional situation as he appears to be. His most telling moment is the breakdown at the end shows that his indifference is really a mask for intense loathing and anguish. I would also argue that he is man of principle but almost as a form of collateral damage. In his heart he is outraged by the Magistrate's evangelization, the Court's bullshit, society, fate, etc., but he resolved long ago that if he couldn't fight it he would just "not play the game." However by being forced to accept or reject the Magistrate's salvation, chooses to continue to stay out of the game as a principled stance. As to whether or not he is conscious of his stance, the text would imply dimly.

>>6615311

I need to buy this book now

>>6615075
sorry I am polish and don't understand international internet that much. What does it mean to me a reddit book? why is it bad?

>>6615744

reddit is a website that is essentially 4chan for normal people who are sensitive and get upset by non-politically correct terminology.

It's filled by left-wing college socialists and atheists.

>>6615771
They also like to come here and tell people to go "back to pol"

>>6615771
>reddit
>left wing

At most, they're armchair SocDems who think Sweden is socialism. A lot of them are "centrist" classcucks

>>6615771
thanks
that explains this novel contains female gamers, criticism of big companies and - obligtory! - black female lesbian strong caracter

hope you had the same feels

nevertheless, great biography
Echenoz is top tier author

french anons will understand
movie sucks, the novel makes me hate humanity

>>6615820
most of the people who have been spamming the
>go back to /pol/
are trolls and faggots raiding us from /leftypol/

>>6615833
this is accurate.

>>6615950
You retarded or something?

>>6597962
anybody who replied to this is a fucking idiot

>>6615950
I got the vibe Kafka was just bitching about his family life

like how his dad wears his bank tellers uniform all the time when he's at home, meaning his mind is always on work and he doesn't care about the family, the dad is also the one who gets violent with Samsa

I didn't get what was up with the sister or the guys renting the room though, so idk, I like The Penal Colony more

>>6614843
>Noob

GETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUTGETOUT

>>6616052
a close reading of The Metamorphosis reveals an incredibly compassionate examination of Gregor's family. Gregor's transformation and eventual death allowed all his family to escape Gregor's oppressive reign and self-actualize. His enforcement that his family should conform to his view of what they should be was what was holding them back.

>>6615820
I can guarantee you the people telling you to fuck off back to /pol/ have been here a lot longer than you have.

>>6615950
>tfw it's all a metaphor for the hiki neet life

>>6616101
Is this a meme? Because this interpretation is as objectively incorrect as a reader interpretation can get.

But then I guess that's par for the course for someone with the cognitive capacity of a NEET

>>6616089
How do the views of Gregor hold the family back? Are you saying that because he worked and supplied for the family they became sedentary and dependent on him, and by extension he was holding them back?

>>6616118
At the beginning of the novella Gregor's "plan" for his family was that his father was too elderly and decrepit to work and his sister was to enroll in a conservatory to become a violin protege. Throughout the course of the story we find out that A) the father is more than capable of working and, indeed, seems to be flourishing because of it and B) Grete's violin playing isn't actually good. Gregor and the family thinks it is, but when she plays for an outside party (the travellers) its revealed that in reality she is decent at best.

Gregor is a narcissist. He has constructed a version of reality in which his family is completely dependent on him because he wants them to be completely dependent on him. It is only through the reversal of dependency that his family flourishes.

The ending image of the Metamorphosis is Grete stretching in the golden sunshine, finally totally free of Gregor.

>>6616131
Ah, because of your explanation I feel like I understand the work better.

Thanks Anon

>>6616108
Please tell me the correct interpretation sanctioned by the living author, lad.

>>6616042
no I'm not, maybe I made a projection about what I feel everyone is perceiving this short story. I knew Kafka before and I know he wasn't a science fiction author of course.

>>6616131
so now Gregor Samsa is guilty? long live postmodernism. Anons can be very cruel

POSTING TEMPLATE FOR LAZY ANONS

>>6615000

The end justifies the means

You're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem

>>6599650

>>6615771
>It's filled by left-wing college socialists and atheists
More like college centre-liberals

*cough* r/shitredditsays *cough*

>>6614983
It's a shit book. Get over it.

>>6613893
>>6614903
>>6615020
chill fam

>>6616131
Feminist detected.

>>6615000
>Hence it is that all armed prophets have conquered, and the unarmed ones have been destroyed. Besides the reasons mentioned, the nature of the people is variable, and whilst it is easy to persuade them, it is difficult to fix them in that persuasion. And thus it is necessary to take such measures that, when they believe no longer, it may be possible to make them believe by force.

>>6615027
>>6615449
Who is that butt slut
Who is that 69th floor whore
Who is that girl with the pearl necklace
Who is that jizz miss
Who is that goop dupe
who is that speculum spectre
Whose is that front cunt
Whose is that first class ass

>>6606006
Had a good chuckle at this one.

>>6608009
this

>>6617159
>>6617448
Refreshingly pragmatic tbh.

How do I into Lenin?

Truff

>>6616101
This. Kafka despised work and wanted to be NEET, but realised how NEETs were themselves despised so he wrote this metaphor for how NEETs are treated by society once they stop being wage slaves: Like monsters.

>>6605152
Should I read it?

>>6617505
Agreed.

>>6605994
I discovered what ADHD felt like when I started reading this.

>>6617298
Got something stuck in your throat faggot?

fresh OC, just read it.

>>6618620
Did you like it?

>>6618646
Yes, it was good I guess. Very innovative. Sometimes I was even portrayed.

>>6618699
Upstream Color ayyyy

>>6603210
That hilt looks like a jizzing dick.

>>6618898
Stop meming.

>>6597962
god i am so confused

someone help out a newshit

>>6619131
The book detailing Caesar's campaigns spends a lot of time on logistics and the word corn is used constantly because corn is a generic term for grain.

>>6598326
Fuck of /pol/io, you are trole bad.

The death toll of the holocaust was far higher than 6 millions.

>>6619068
Bet the publishers' faces are going to mighty be red when they find out.

>>6597962
no matter how old and expected of a post it will be this always ends up with atleast +15 responses

>>6617500
Ask /leftypol/

boring shit

>>6597661

never again female writing
it's all the same

>>6611086
>the replies
o god, u people do take camus seriously

wow

oh shit

>>6619260
Not always, it's just been a while

>>6619941
y dont u

god I hate when there are two different works and the same title

>>6619981
Andre Gide is amazing you plen
but that is also accurate

>>6619964
>stranger
>guy wanted to live
>wouldnt accept jesus as his lord and savior
>has no reason to not just lie
>gets killed
and
>absurd
>no meaning
>dont kill yourself though, or youll give in to the absurd
>even thought it doesnt matter at all and nothing has meaning

camus is a hack

>>6619993
tell Zenon that

>>6620046
kek
Seems pretty accurate.

1. King is shit and low tier horror author
2. mfw I found out right now that the title comes from "hearts", cards game
3. mfw this book is actually pretty good

>>6614763
I chortled, heavily.

>>6619894
> where do the ducks go in the winter

fug I always say that when I'm with someone in the park
luckily they have never read Salinger and think I'm quirky :^)

>>6597962
The Roman times didn't exist when corn did. Idiot.

>>6598556
Safeness bredrin.

>>6618254
Your mother's dick you silly slut you

>>6620105
>Origin of chortle
>blend of chuckle and snort; coined by Lewis Carroll in >Through the Looking-Glass (1871)

the more you know

>>6619205
I thought it was funny

>>6619934
>falling for the female author meme

Serves you right

>>6620275
Fuck this shitty ass book

Motherfucker spent like three pages describing God damn sand

And then the one nigger at the base of the mountain shoots a gun and it randomly hits his fucking baby in a cave?

Fucking hack

>>6597962
Is that... CORN? WAIT A SECOND!

>>6614949
>>6614996
>>6615526
There is a basic plot involving the adventures of Dakota Fanning.

>>6615833
This is what 80%+ of people understand by the expression "left wing", which has always been a useless term.

>>6619934
The movie was goat though.
It didn't any feminist feel about it either. Based director must have purged it.

Or it may be some supposed "ironic" feminism about how showing perfect virctorian girls is feminist because of epic reverse psychology.

>>6620387
Charming prose and a strong beginning, but overly melodramatic and loaded with the typical modernist clichés that demonize industrialization and glorify the poor.

>>6598556
any of u /lit/ lads fancy a cheeky nandos later?

>>6621488
it's second wave feminism so I tolerate it

fug you hawthorne

>>6597962
M A Ï S

>>6622256
frenchfag detected

>>6597962
why does this retarded image always get so many replies?

When will this fucking meme just die?

>>6622551
Probably the guy who made it samefagging.