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If you had to educate someone with ten books, what would those ten books be?

>> No.6583279
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>> No.6583284

the god delusion

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120 days of sodom

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These plus Philip K. Dick's VALIS trilogy.

>> No.6583293

Ulysses
Finnegans wake
Gravity's rainbow
Infinite jest
The book of new sun
The odyssey
The republic
Tai pei
Legacy of totalitarism in a tundra
The legend of the 10 elemental masters

>> No.6583299

>>6583293
well memed

>> No.6583302

>>6583277
Plato's Rebublic
Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics
Descartes' Meditations
Hume's Essay concerning Human Understanding
Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit
Marx' Capital
Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals
Freud's Totem and Taboo
Adorno's Negative Dialectics

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>>6583277

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>>6583279
Fuck you

>> No.6583316

>>6583308
Capital doesn't propose any extensive system for society, you half-wit. It's not The Republic.

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>>6583316
>>6583279
I only saw I post degrading the human race. What did you see, fun?
Well we know what Marx is famous for, don´t we?

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>>6583335
I agree

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>>6583335
>those revolutions wouldn't have happened without Marx

>> No.6583350

>>6583335
>Well we know what Marx is famous for, don´t we?
Not finishing Kapital or taking part in the Soviet revolution or being a member of the Bolshevik party. Yeah.

>> No.6583368

Broom of the System
Girl with Curious Hair
Infinite Jest
A Supposedly Fun Thing I would Never do again
Oblivion
Consider the Lobster
This is Water
The Pale King
Gravity's Rainbow
Ulysses

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>>6583349
You can doubt as you doubt holocaust, history is fact, my friend.
>>6583350
It was his sick ideology, so he is the mental founder.
>>6583342
Right, I got the same picture.

>> No.6583383

>>6583379
Marx did not formulate an ideology, he formulated a critique of the political economy, partly inspired by already existing socialist and anarchist ideologies.

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>>6583383
Well,obviously he was the "best one"
You are right, I think it´s critique to found a theory, ideology and shit which is responsibily for the death of 200 million people.

>> No.6583407

>>6583389
>obviously hasn't read Kapital(except for some controversial excerpt your pol buddies recommended)
>communicates using /pol/ infographics

>> No.6583415
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The Dhammapada
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Nelson Chemistry
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Calculus: Early Transcendentals
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University Physics
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Modern Biology
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In The Buddha's Words
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Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
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The Complete Book of Woodworking
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Musician's Guide to Theory and Analysis
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Epistemology: A Contemporary Introduction to the Theory of Knowledge

I wouldn't waste time on any works of fiction if I was forced to raise a child on only 10 books

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>>6583407
I´ve read the capital and iit was a waste of time.Just and old turd talking about his fucked mind.
I´ve also read "About the jewquestion" fucking fascist socialists. You think it´s okay putting people in camps? Fucking idiot.
/pol is antisemetic and homophob, I am not there.

>> No.6583427

The Iliad - Homer
The Metamorphoses - Ovid
Maxims - La Rochefoucauld
An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding - Hume
The Ego and Its Own - Stirner
Parerga and Paralipomena - Schopenhauer
Thus Spoke Zarathustra - Nietzsche
Beyond Good and Evil - Nietzsche
Notes from Underground - Dostoevsky
The Gift: The Form and Reason for Exchange in Archaic Societies - Mauss

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>>6583277

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>>6583427
Some of these need much more background to fully understand.

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>>6583379
>>6583389
You obviously have a shallower understanding of socialism than I do. Best stop posting and go read some of it. Maybe Harvey

>>6583417
>I´ve also read "About the jewquestion" fucking fascist socialists.
Fascists are liars as much as the Bolsheviks, but the Nazis put the real socialists in prison and camps too. That pic/info-graph is horrible. These guys appear to be in a breadline. This is at the collapse of the capitalistic economy. Relying too much on "free markets" and the gold standard.

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1.The Oxford English Dictionary
2.Programming: Principles And Practice Using C++ - Bjarn Stroustrupp
3.Shardik - Richard Adams
4.Get Tough - WE Fairbairn
5. The Musician's Guide to Theory and Analysis - JP Clending and EW Marvin
6.The King James Bible
7.Beyond Good and Evil - Friedrich Nietzche
8.Emile - Rousseau
9.The Anarchist Cookbook (supplemented with corrective notes) - William Powell
10. The Republic - Plato

Choose too many novels and you'll only produce a worm-like thing that can only live in fantasies.

For that purpose I have included assorted textbooks, as it is not enough to teach ideas and allegories: you must also teach skills.

>> No.6583493

What do you mean by educate? Depending on the answer, I could or could not include textbooks to teach functional knowledge such as science and math, but I'll assume you mean a more philosophical basis. I'll keep my list to only books that I've read or have. There are probably better books than the ones I have but I'll only include the ones that I've read.

>The Holy Bible
Its the central theological book for Christianity, and thus is the backbone of understanding Western culture and morality.

>Plato's Republic
Plato's ideas are the baseline for Western philosophy

>Animal Farm
Introduces effective the concept of double think, and how semantics can be twisted.

>Brave New World
Describes how our own debauchery and complacency may be our undoing.

>Frankenstein
Describes a scenario of science going to far, provide thought for why sometimes we should restrain ourselves as we march forward to progress.

>Around the World in 80 days
Will give the reader a sense of adventure, a belief that fortitude can overcome adversity.

>The Odyssey
Will make the reader thirst for glory, inspire them just like how Alexander the Great was inspired.

>The Alchemist
Will teach the reader to follow their hearts.

>The Prince
Teaches the nature of politics and human nature and how to obtain and retain power.

>Don Quixote
Teaches how illusions of chivalry and other traditional concepts may make a fool of a person.

>> No.6583494

>>6583488
autistic stem teen detected

>> No.6583499

>>6583494
Autodidactic unemployed suburbanite hoodlum actually.

It's a forgivable mistake though.

>> No.6583502

>>6583499
my mistake, sir, forgive me

>> No.6583504

>>6583502
No harm done chap.

>> No.6583505

>>6583499
btw C++ is pleb-tier
>not starting with lisp

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>>6583481
No, Hitler is a socialist as stalin was. Even after war Stalin never sadi Hitler wouldn´t have been a socialist. Hitler stopped the capitalism during weimar republic.
He just wasn´t a marxist. He was nationalist.

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>>6583504
the only real STEM philosophy

>> No.6583520

>>6583506
So that's how a tiny country almost took over the world on its own.

>> No.6583522

>>6583520
Almost yes,To forget all arabia, africa, america, asia.

>> No.6583526

>>6583277
Jesus - The Bible
C. S. Lewis - The Abolition of Man
Euclid - Elements of Geometry
Rudin - Real and Complex Analysis
Lang - Algebra
Arnold - Mathematical Methods of Classical Mechanics
Reif - Fundamentals of Statistical and Thermal Physics
Jackson - Classical Electrodynamics
Misner, Thorne, & Wheeler - Gravitation
Weinberg - The Quantum Theory of Fields

>> No.6583531

>>6583506
It was socialism for the industrialist and it was authoritarian.

Yes, the Soviets were also authoritarians. Not making any excuses for them, they aren't what many of us mean when we talking about communism, socialism and Marxism.

You have a lot of reading to do >>6447794

>> No.6583542

kid is dumping his entire "open this when communists are rekting you" folder here lmao

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>>6583526
>Jesus - The Bible
>Jesus wrote the Bible

>> No.6584527

>>6583526

literally useless, and also

>jesus - the bible

>> No.6584534

>>6583526
>using the Lang for education purposes
>using Euclid as an introduction to geometry
>no functional analysis (inb4 papa rudin, it's shit)
>statistics without a proper introduction to probability theory

Good bait.

>> No.6584544

Odyssey/Iliad
Communist Manifesto
Stranger
Trial
Republic
Infinite Jest
The Metamorphoses or Mythology
Crime and Punishment
The Bible

>> No.6584550

>>6583415

best list, but I think you could replace something with a book on rhetoric

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>>6584527
>>6584514
I /lit/ this autistic? It was a pretty obvious joke I think.

>> No.6584569

>>6584527
>>6584514
its the word of god you fedora tips

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>>6583308

>> No.6584601

>>6583415
good list but why waste two books on buddhism?

>> No.6584630

Eye of the World, Wheel of Time
The Great Hunt, Wheel of Time
The Dragon Reborn, Wheel of Time
The Shadow Rising, Wheel of Time
The Fires of heaven, Wheel of Time
Lord of Chaos, Wheel of Time
Crown of Swords, Wheel of Time
The Gathering Storm, Wheel of Time
Towers of Midnight, Wheel of Time
A Memory of Light, Wheel of Time

>> No.6584633

Living under capitalism is very comfortable. Most of us have jobs and can afford decent things. My neighbors aren't being sent off to Gulags either. all your examples happened over 50 years ago when the bumps were being flattened out, and besides none of those people have anything to do with the actual capitalist theory, they are just crazy individuals who did their own thing.

>> No.6584636

>>6583277
I only need The Holy Bible

>> No.6584651

Homer – Iliad, Odyssey
The Old Testament
Aeschylus – Tragedies
Sophocles – Tragedies
Herodotus – Histories
Euripides – Tragedies
Thucydides – History of the Peloponnesian War
Hippocrates – Medical Writings
Aristophanes – Comedies
Plato – Dialogues

>> No.6584657

>>6583509
>>6583505
my homies

>> No.6584667

>>6584633
lol
only like 5% of the entire world is "living confortably" under capitalism.

>> No.6584673

>>6584667
maybe niggers should stop reproducing then, what do you think ?

>> No.6584678

>>6584673

>racism on /lit/

you're new here, aren't you?

>> No.6584685

>>6584678
>worthless rhetoric
People who are not able to raise their child in a good environment shouldn't reproduce.

>> No.6584712

>>6584678
>implying he's wrong

>> No.6584713

>>6584685
yes, because that's the problem here

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>>6583277
A History of the Modern World by R. R. Palmer should definitely be on the list

>> No.6586360

>>6583488
I'm not sure if this is autism or just idiocy

>> No.6586374

>>6583493

This list is awful. First of all, BNW, Animal Farm, Frankenstein, and 80 days are not even top 200 books, let alone the ten books you would educate someone with. If you assume that we're looking for philosophy, why did you only list two philosophy books. Also, if you love Orwell so much, why not 1984? And for glory, definitely the Iliad, the Odyssey is about adventure, and Alexander the Great kept a copy of the Illiad at all times you pleb.

And

>Teaches how illusions of chivalry and other traditional concepts may make a fool of a person.

fuck you.

>> No.6586389

>>6584678
Wow anon that's pure ideology

>> No.6586398

>>6583302
replace Descartes with Spinoza and Adorno with Deleuze

>> No.6586419

>>6586374

same guy, here's my list.

I'm not trying to provide important or influential books, just educational. Also, since a single book can hold the complete works of a philosopher; I'll do philosophers instead.


Plato - Dialogues
Aristotle - esp: physics, metaphysics, nicomachean ethics, and politics)
Kant - esp. Critique of Pure Reason
Homer (not a philosopher but you have to read him)
St. Augustine
Kierkagaard
Descartes
Hobbes/Locke (Pick one, if Hobbes you can honestly read excerpts)
Thomas Aquinas

Disclaimer, I haven't read, so couldn't consider, a shit ton of important philosophers including Hegel, Spinoza, Wittgensteine, John Stewart Mill, and Hume.

Also, I deliberately left out philosophers I am a huge fan of and who are incredibly important such as Nietzsche, Camus,and Satre, since I think they are not essential to a man's education, and should be read only if he's drawn to that kind of philosophy, and frankly, although I personally am, I think it would be better if he were not.

>> No.6586423

>>6586419

looks like I forgot my tenth. Just to shake it up, drop the philosophy for a bit and read shakespeare, plays and sonnets, esp:

Midsummer Night's Dream
Macbeth
Romeo and Juliet
The Tempest

>> No.6586464

Platos Republic
Aquanisis Summa Theologica
David Foster Wallaces Infinite Jest
Don Quioxet
Brothers Karamazov
Tractatus by Wittgensteinz
The Joyce Tetralogy
The Bible (god bless)
Homers work
Sophocles Plays

>> No.6586473

Euclid's Elements
Calculus Textbook
Republic
Nicomachean Ethics
KJV Bible
Micro Econ Textbook
Divine Comedy
Complete Works of Shakespeare
Ulysses
Leaves of Grass

Damn that's hard. These were the first ten but I know the list is lacking.

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All they need to read is À la recherche du temps perdu

>> No.6586481

>>6583292

>tfw it's unfinished

>> No.6586505

very good everyone posts no one reads/responds thread, OP. I will play my role

the Odyssey
the book of Genesis
the Gospel of John
Montaigne's Essays
Paradise Lost
Pride and Prejudice
Crime and Punishment
Kafka's collected short stories
A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
One Hundred Years of Solitude

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Crime and Punishment
The Bible (KJV aka best V)
120 Days of Sodom
The Old Man and the Sea
The Art of War
Hamlet
(Insert best/most comprehensive Physics text book ever written)
A Primer for Star-Gazers
How to Stay Alive in the Woods
A Critique of Pure Reason (throwaway choice)

>> No.6586549

>>6586505

I read it, but all my responses would just have been:
>Stop liking what I don't like!

>> No.6586654

>>6583493
>>>The Alchemist
aAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.6586733

>>6584678
>>6584673

Eugenics is a better term, and more easily argued. Kantian ethics says no, Utilitarianism says yes to the evolutionary pressure towards making us better, so long as biodiversity is preserved. Nichomachean just depends on whether or not you care about robbing peter to pay paul.

I say no, solely because you can't really ensure the massive biodiversity humanity has over long term eugenic programs without far better genetic engineering than we have today. Also, I'm kinda Catholic.

>> No.6586785

>>6586516
The first art of war

>> No.6586869

>>6583509
>>6583505
>>6584657
>not starting with Haskell

>> No.6586908

Bump

>> No.6586926

The illiad
Bible
Hamlet
The Republic
Moby Dick
A math textbook
A Physics textbook
A Biology Textbook
Wittgenstein Investigations
Critique of pure reason

>> No.6586927

>>6586869
>starting with Haskell
I started with Java mate.
I was young and I was dumb.
But eventually, yes, I
did see the beauty that was and is Haskell
as well as that of Lisp.

>> No.6586936

Educate is a really broad field. On what? Literature? Schools of literature? Schooling in general?

I'd say for music I'd include Stockhausen's notes and David Byrne's How Music Works