/lit/ - Literature

The Greeks.

>>6582416
Keep reading, m8. You're doing good. Don't give up. I was in your position once, and I haven't stopped reading and my life is pretty fulfilling.

>>6582424
I don't really care about philosophy, though. I've been a nihilist for a bit now. It works for me.

Not really sure why CS has anything to do with this.

I'm a CSfag too though, and reading all of Bukowski's novels and drinking helped me get through the first few months of my soul crushing job and living alone. I made friends playing games online so I don't read as much as I used to though.

>>6582416
you keep heading towards the wrong way.
You must not run away from bad feels, you must face them until you detach yourself form them, you will be free then.
All you do now, is to find pleasure, with the more pleasures accumulated, the more fear you will have to fall back to your bad perios, as you call it. Do not divert your sadness, tackle it until it becomes insignificant.

>>6582433
No you haven't been. Depressive and negative aren't related in any way to nihilism. Don't help turn words into buzzwords.

>>6582416
>> thisIsFuckingAwesome.jpeg
>> Finish every book on the /lit/ start kit
>> MFW
>> What do I read now /lit/?
have you tried writing?

What do you read now?

Literally whatever the fuck you want. Stop relying in other people to dictate what you should think/feel. Make your own goddamn decisions. And for the love of god stop listening to us /lit/fags, we have no fucking clue what we're talking about.

>>6583158
he just wants to be included anon give him a break

I feel like there's a lot of shitty people on this board and then one extra-shitty person who just puts down people who are getting into /lit/.

>>6583158
The teenage in this post is so cancer

>>6582416
Central European playwrights, 1900-1990.
Plus:
Peter Weiss
Brecht
Dario Fo

mind posting said starter kit OP?

be sure to read some nonfic, bro. personally i like ellul, mcluhan, mumford etc

>>6583264
Here you go, silly;)

>>6582416
>mfw I'm holding a beer at my computer and there's a stool by the door

>>6583276
forgot my face, among other things

>>6583271
It's basically just high school readings plus some teen edge thrown in to spice things up

Don't pay attention to the positions

>>6583271
Holy anglophony

Blood Meridian. The Stranger. Post Office. A Confederacy of Dunces. Brief Interviews With Hideous Men. Born Standing Up: A Comic's Life. White Noise. A Farewell to Arms. Breakfast of Champions.

>>6583158
yeah, at some point you don't really need advice anymore
most authors will mention several other writers in their books, that they love, you start from there, then it's an endless chain
bukowski makes you read DH Lawrence, Nietzsche makes you read the Greeks...
I also like to read psychoanalysis books, most often they reference a lot of famous characters and authors (esp. Karen Horney and E. Badinter)

OP, if you're looking for ideas, just take the name of an author you liked, type it in wikipedia, you'll get to know his influences, the people he influenced, the literary movements he belonged or didn't belong to.
it's endless.

these days I'm reading the Chronicles of Narnia, because I'm overworked and I need pure escapism.

also if you liked some films, try to check out the book.

>>6583271
read 9/20
but I saw the Great Gatsby, Cuckoo's Nest, Clockwork Orange and Fear and Loathing
I read another Hesse.
I might like Anthony Burgess or Fahrenheit 451 (if it's not too politically correct, muh freedumz)

>>6583362
bukowski is a fucking joke

>>6583482
check your priviledge

>>6583477
>Clockwork Orange
FREUDE SCHÖNER GÖTTERFUNKEN
TOCHTER AUS ELYSIUM
WIR BETRETTEN FEUERTRUNKEN
HIMMLISCHE DEIN HEILIGTUM

>>6583151
>based advice
>>6583352
Who put the HP series in?
>>6583461
What a great idea to read a more contemporary author first and then read where he drew his ideas from; it's not like you are supposed to build up from the beginning of literature. In STEM words: you don't start with further mathematics.

Give us more information about what books you enjoyed and what subjects interested you.

Btw I sympathyze with you because I also became a reader when gf of 4 years dumped me and I wanted something to help get it out of my mind.

>>6583352
>tfw 22% of the way through

W-when am I p-patrician

>>6583510
>build up from the beginning of literature.
wow chill out, STEMboi
let's follow your image, though I stopped maths at 17. If it's like HS, and unless we're talking about Fields medal people, students who study advanced maths probably study it like monkeys (like we do in HS) : learn a theorem, apply, repeat.
I'm sure it must be fascinating even for an engineer, after he learnt advanced maths, to go back to Poincare, Pascal and Descartes, to understand the history of maths. (for example I recently learnt that when Pascal invented probability calculation, probability was a moral concept from casuistics : an act is morally good if it's "probable", i.e. if you can prove (probe) that a theologian authorized it, "probability" didn't mean likelihood like it does now)

If you started literature with /lit/'s "starter kit", then you already read contemporary things, which according to your theory you shouldn't have done.

What you've just discarded is usually known as the geneological method.
But you can start with the Greeks if you want to.

>>6583573
Well, IMO it's better to have read the Greeks and not learn their stuff from annotations on the back of the book.

>>6583271
>>6583477
>Burgess

>Burgess started his career as a critic. His English Literature, A Survey for Students, was aimed at newcomers to the subject. He followed this with The Novel To-day (Longmans, 1963) and The Novel Now: A Student's Guide to Contemporary Fiction (New York: W.W. Norton and Company, 1967). He wrote the Joyce studies Here Comes Everybody: An Introduction to James Joyce for the Ordinary Reader (also published as Re Joyce) and Joysprick: An Introduction to the Language of James Joyce. Also published was A Shorter 'Finnegans Wake,' Burgess's abridgement. His 1970 Encyclopædia Britannica entry on the novel (under "Novel, the") is regarded as a classic of the genre.[by whom?] Burgess wrote full-length critical studies of William Shakespeare, Ernest Hemingway and D. H. Lawrence, as well as Ninety-nine Novels: The Best in English since 1939.[57]

>>6583573
engineers are mostly shit at math and don't know anything past baby's first calc, also that's not even close to what students of advanced math do

>>6583315
High school is the time when many people start to take reading seriously, if they ever do. I think it's a good list for those who haven't read much, and most of them are thoroughly entertaining reads with at least a modicum of substance.

>>6583352
REEEE RREEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6583477
You're wrong if you think Farenheit 451 is about freedom and censorship. People have no need for books in that world because they much prefer other sensory excitement like television and radio.

>>6583271
>lurking /lit/ cos im fucking bored
>dont realy care for readinbg
>mfw iv read three of these

>>6582416
Now to get a understanding that your GF was getting in the way of your learning and that couldn't of read all those books hanging around with a spook like her.

>>6582416
well tbh, when you finish the start kit of /lit/ you kind of run out of books so the only thing to do now is to re-read them. there are no other books to read out there. nope

>>6583732
maybe browse here 4-5 times a year. never seen that list before
have read 14 of them.
feels good man

>>6583668
What board does this REEEE meme come from?

>>6583710
>Farenheit 451

>Clarisse McClellan walks with Montag on his trips home and is one month short of being a 17-year-old girl.[notes 3][19] She is an unusual sort of person in the bookless, hedonistic society: outgoing, naturally cheerful, unorthodox, and intuitive. She is unpopular among peers and disliked by teachers for asking "why" instead of "how" and focusing on nature rather than on technology.
nice
now, the Bible seems to be one of the few books named in the book. I wouldn't die for it, tbh.

>>6583668
Ikr, I don't know why it's so low on the list.

>>6582416
Try reading the better starter kit

>>6584026

Don't know if this is better. You replaced the babby's first dystopia with garbage like Grapes of Wrath. It's a decent counterpart I guess.

>>6582433
This post is exactly why you should read more philosophy

>>6583362
>Born Standing Up: A Comic's Life
Great recommendation. You'll read it in a few days too.

>>6584100
Tbh, some people are just geared towards certain forms of Nihilism.

I am an existential, moral and political nihilist, for instance.

Largely I derive this viewpoint from strong atheism and materialism.

>>6584026

honestly borges might be too hard for someone just starting out.

no offense to OP or anything but if you're so new to reading critically that a writer like vonnegut might be a challenge then something like 'ficciones' will just leave him bewildered and annoyed.

>>6582430
>you're going good

I'll never stop cringing at this. It's been programmed

>>6584062
>garbage like grapes of wrath
Your whole post is garbage, kid.

>>6584062
>garbage like Grapes of Wrath
All of my le what.

>>6583710
You're wrong because you haven't read the book. It's about both of those things. But I would certainly classify censorship as the forced burnings of libraries, hence Fahrenheit 451.

>>6583573
>to go back to Poincare, Pascal and Descartes, to understand the history of maths

I'm not surprised that you'd think this but most mathematicians would, in a relative sense, barely care about the history of mathematics.

Good students generally tend to be more fascinated by the math itself, they'd prefer to read a better math than older math to appreciate its cultural appeal.

It's why you won't see shit like Sokol happening in mathematics, we know what the fuck we like and we don't say we like what the fuck we like to impress people.

>>6584112
Have you read any materialist philosophers? Im sorry, it always makes me angry when people take positions on things without knowing anything about the topic. If you want to say you dont have a position because you dont know enough/dont care enough, alright bud. But when you start taking a position (usually a simplistic one) on a vast, complex topic you know nothing about, it rustles me, tbh.

>>6582433
You haven't, the reason you think you have is because you have no idea what the term actually means.

>>6583573
I read Egyptian papyri because I love the history of maths.
Step your game up.

>>6583352
>Hemmingway is written with 3 m's
>autism triggered

>>6585962
>actually learn its Hemingway with just one m
>am idiot