/lit/ - Literature

>>6534067
you must have the wrong idea about literature then. the best writers with something to say aren't the best at writing. if you want some pretty sounding platitudes you can always read english poetry like whitman or ts eliot.

>>6534067
Nabokov.

You don't get good at prose by conversing in English, you get good at it by reading in English.

>>6534067
>how do you deal with this non native english bros?
who gives a shit ?
english is the worst language on earth in 2015

Joseph Conrad.

>>6534091
tru. French master race

>>6534091

>>6534067
I deal with it by realising it's not true. I'm better than the vast majority of native speakers.

I really dislike this culturally ignorant way of thinking that english is the only language that matters, write in your own language, stay honest to the art and respect it by commiting to it in your own natural way of telling a story

>>6534796
>implying there exists a "natural way" to tell a story

foucault_laughing_about_chomsky.MOV

By not being an Anglocentric faggot, although this statement seems to suggest reactionary tendencies which aren't there.

>>6534078
This. He wrote English better than most native speakers ever will.

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PROVED YOU WRONG OP

>>6534067
use your native language.

>>6534078

Nabokov grew up trilingual, and spoke English as well as Russian

>>6534796
>>6534817
>>6534829

But what if your mother tongue lacks expressiveness and reads like shit? Also consider that if I want my works to be accessible to foreign interest I wouldn't want to rely on a translator to have my works pic related, and that wouldn't have been me who wrote it.

>>6534921
>But what if your mother tongue lacks expressiveness and reads like shit?
Compared to English, I presume? If you can't write as well in English then it must mean you're achieving a better effect using your more limited mother language, anyway.

It's a terrible terrible feeling. I'm a native speaker from a fucking lost and loser language, Portuguese. No future for me, man.
At least, it's better than Spanish...

>>6534934
and the best book ever is written in spanish.

>>6534921
Translate it yourself, then.

>>6534943

El Quijote?

>>6534957
O Alquimista

>>6534957
of course.

I consider my English to be good enough to write in English. In fact i am writing a horror novel in English right now.

Practice and write in your own language, then maybe if it's good enough someone who speaks English will translate it and you'll become a successful writer.

>>6534926
I actually write better in English than with my mother tongue although I sound like an uncultured idiot just as anyone with a grade-school grasp in English.

>>6534955
That defeats the purpose

>>6534998
It would seem the issue isn't what language you're writing in, but rather that you're a shitty writer. Work on that.

>>6534067
by writing in your native language?

Nabokov, Conrad, Martel, Hoffman, Kerouac, etc.
Kundera, Beckett (writing in French, but not their mother tongues),
"Better" is meaningless. Learn a language and write something good.

>>6534921
There is no language that lacks expressiveness

>>6534067
Goethe, Schiller, Nietzsche, Brecht, Heine, Kafka feel with you.
Just stick to your native language then.

Salman Rushdie,
“Memory has its own special kind. It selects, eliminates, alters, exaggerates, minimizes, glorifies, and vilifies also; but in the end it creates its own reality, its heterogeneous but usually coherent version of events; and no sane human being ever trusts someone else's version more than his own.”
Joseph Conrad
“No, it is impossible; it is impossible to convey the life-sensation of any given epoch of one’s existence--that which makes its truth, its meaning--its subtle and penetrating essence. It is impossible. We live, as we dream--alone.”
Vladimir Nabokov
“All at once we were madly, clumsily, shamelessly, agonizingly in love with each other; hopelessly, I should add, because that frenzy of mutual possession might have been assuaged only by our actually imbibing and assimilating every particle of each other's soul and flesh; but there we were, unable even to mate as slum children would have so easily found an opportunity to do so.”

>>6535743
Beautiful pic. It's sexy, but not boner-inducing-wanna-masturbate-now kind of sexy.

>>6534091
Why?

>>6534091
>posting on an english board

>>6536355
Just say if you want more, faggot.

Emulate hemingway, sparseness is wonderful

>>6537742
You should emulate Hemingway and fucking kill yourself.

>>6534067
I don't have to deal with it. I spend so much time reading English literature I speak it as well as my native language.
As a matter of fact, when I finally sit down, gather my thoughts and write a novel, it'll probably be written in English. For the simple reason that I find it more eloquent than my native tounge. There just aren't as many words in Norwegian. So if I want to express something keenly, with a broader vocabulary English will be it.

I speak some French as well, but it's not anywhere near good enough to write something decent. So until my French gets better or I have a sudden urge to write a book in Norwegian I'll probably stick to English.

The benefits on Writing in English would also be a factor. It has a broader target audience, so if I want to generate any kind of revenue I'll have to write in the language that appeals to the most people.

>>6534078
Don't you dare forget Conrad.

>>6536355
Hey, thanks. I took it a long time ago (amateur photographer with patient friends).

>>6534091
truth. let's restore glorious latin