/lit/ - Literature

they're not though

>>6532171
shit out some reasons before you get out

What about the Armenian Americans?
>not reading based kardashian

Shiggy diggeroo

>>6532177
Shakespeare wasn't Russian and neither was DFW

>>6532190
fair point, love me some DFW and willy shakesmore. currently though (for me) i think dostoevsky may have the best grasp on humans thought process out there. or at least he put it into words better than anyone

>>6532177
ladies first; tell me why they are better

>>6532195
>these empty phrases
>literature is about transcribing thought processes

even if they are good writers, you're a shitty reader

>>6532199
I was exaggerating (for the purpose of getting responses). After reading a lot of Dostoevsky in a short period of time and getting way too deep into fictional Petersburg, I've become infatuated with his writing. I think he has a way of getting into the psyche of certain kinds of people (Raskolnikov, the Underground Man, etc etc.) that is endlessly fascinating and shows how great of a writer he really is.

>>6532206
>claiming i said shit about the nature of literature

I'm glad you can completely determine my entire reading ability from some broken sentences I threw together while pissing.

because russian history has been nothing but suffering and that kind of environment has the potential to foster great lit culture.

>>6532195
>Dusty knows more about the human thought process than Joyce, who wrote an entire book about the human thought process, thought to be the greatest work of the english language of the 20th century
Put it back in your pants, man. Dusty's my boy and brothers K is probably my favorite book, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. His strong point is his characters for sure, and their depth and complexity

>>6532503
Second this, I'd suck Joyce's dick any day. He nailed it better.

>>6532503
Uh, Ulysses is about as far from the human thought process as you can get.

>>6532566
>>>/r/books/

>>6532166

because GLORIOUS COMMUNISM

it's not that they're really good, it's that you're reading the best of the best

>>6532166
Are you reading them in Russian?

>>6532166
>I've only been reading Russian authors
>why do I think Russians are better?

HMMM, LET US SEE

>>6532572
Take Joyce's mealy dick out of your mouth for a second and think about your actual thought process during the day. Does it even remotely resemble the style of any chapter in ulysses? If so, are you rainman?

>>6532166
Are you reading them in Russian?

>>6532617
>>6532637
ayy

I like Anton Chekov

>>6532166
>be smart wealthy lad in tsarist russia
>have nice eurocentric humanities education and be a theoretical man of the world
>russian winter envelops the country estate
>fuck all to do for months on end
>no internet, no tv, no vidya, even visiting others is an ordeal
>might as well entertain myself by working out my daydreams and writing them down, i'm not a filthy serf after all

They wrote because they had to in order not to die from boredom.

Dud, do you even Nabokov?

>>6532667
and normies have the nerve to look down on NEETs

>>6532779
Literature was basically just analogue dank memes.

>>6532667
So the lesson is: if you want to be a great writer, abstain completely from internet, television, and vidya.

>>6532798
I think the lesson is: If you want to be a great writer, involuntarily abstain from entertainment and distractions so that your mind in its longing for stimuli feels enticed to fill the vacuum with its own creations.

I don't think it really works if you do it deliberately. I'm not even sure if it can be done deliberately. Maybe when you go full hermit for long periods of time, but I think that would have a different effect than just being bored in your pre-electricity country mansion for long periods of time.

I remember doing lots of reading and writing and drawing as a kid when I was taken to the family vacation home that was free of modern media, but I never felt the same kind of creativity when I deliberately isolated myself from those things. The intention to do so seems to ruin the process, because you know the boredom you artificially created can be alleviated easily by removing the artificial boundaries you subjected yourself to. Kind of like not drinking beer because you don't have it is psychologically very different from not drinking beer because you shouldn't while fully realising you're next to a stocked fridge.

because they went though shit like this

>Dostoyevsky served eight years of exile with hard labour at a katorga prison camp in Omsk, Siberia, followed by a term of compulsory military service. After a fourteen-day sleigh ride, the prisoners reached Tobolsk, a prisoner way station. Despite the circumstances, Dostoyevsky consoled the other prisoners, such as the Petrashevist Ivan Yastrzhembsky, who was surprised by Dostoyevsky's kindness and eventually abandoned his decision to commit suicide. In Tobolsk, the members received food and clothes from the Decembrist women, as well as several copies of the New Testament with a ten-ruble banknote inside each copy. Eleven days later, Dostoyevsky reached Omsk[46][48] together with just one other member of the Petrashevsky Circle, the poet Sergei Durov.[49]

Serious question OP: are you only reading the five stock /litcore Ruski that everyone talks about ?

Protip: if you haven't read Pushkin and at least one Russian author born before 1770, the answer is yes.

>>6532874
There is a psychological difference between the two scenarios, yes. But how sure are we that the writing is a result of boredom? Maybe the desire to write was always there and in his time there were less distractions.

>>6532166
Even though I love American lit a lot (mostly because of Faulkner and Hemingway), I do agree that Russians are the most based. They have Tolstoy, Lermontov, Pushkin, Turgenev, Gogol, Chekhov, and let's not forget the best writer that ever existed or will exist - Dostoevsky.
I think that russian lit is the best because of all the shit that's been happening to them. All that stuff that happened has born a lot of great writers.

>>6533148
I've read plenty of Pushkin, love me some queen of spades brah

>>6533189
>But how sure are we that the writing is a result of boredom? Maybe the desire to write was always there and in his time there were less distractions.
It's just my personal experience that circumstantial isolation from distraction works better than intentional isolation from distraction.

Might work differently for others though.

>Why are russians so much better at writing than everyone else
Name five prominent Russian writers who published their works after WW2

>>6532186
>tfw I spent 1000+ hours on my novel
>tfw Kim the Kunt made a book of her pictures, with no effort on her part
>tfw I'll never sell as many books as her
>tfw cunts do nothing and get richer and I work hard and get nothing

>>6534447
n-n-n-none

>>6534764
Try to realize it's all within yourself
No one else can make you change
And to see that we're all really one
And life flows on within you and without you

>>6535837
thank you anon

>>6534447
>implying Stalin didn't purge the Russian /lit/ariat

>>6534764
if you can make a deep connection with even a single person, you've done more than Kim K ever has or will. Not that it's a contest. You have to have intrinsic aims, OP

>>6534764
>getting into literature for the money

you need financial advice

>>6535926
>you're not a writer, the skeleton inside of you that commands your skin to write is
spooky galore

>>6535837
thanks, george. your were the best beatle and all things must pass is one of the greatest albums ever.