/lit/ - Literature

Because Aristotle was a white male who didn't vote for Obama

>>6509186

To be hip.

Literally.

>>6509200
>Literally
how?

>>6509186
Aristotle is fucking useless, that's why.

>>6509204
hey there green

>women have less teeth than men

why do people always say
AIR-is-tot-le
instead of
air-is-TOT-le

or is the first the correct way?

>>6509217
Forms are a heavily flawed debunked concept, but that doesn't make everything Plato said useless.

>>6509219
It's Ἀριστοτέλης.

>>6509222
yeah, hylemorphism is the way to go

>>6509224
Aplototoexnc

>>6509219

a-ree-sto-teh-les

Emphasise the 'teh'

>>6509228
Not like he revolutionized logic and founded science or anything.

>>6509235
>implying hylemorphism is wrong

>>6509219
i think that's just a murikan accent

Is it the Rhetoric?

Probably because he sodomized young nubile boipussy

Or is it more personal than that?

>shits on Aristotle whenever he can
>nothing but praise for Thomas Aquinas

...?

Because Aristotle was monist and believed in the beauty of aesthetics in man.

Aristotle's teachings on how to incite prejudice might have incited some prejudice in John.

because he's stupid

>>6509264

>Similie and metaphor

>>6509222
Confirmed for not understanding the forms

Because John Green is writing for high school students who are used to hearing about Aristotle in science class, where he does tend to be wrong quite a bit. It's more a meme than any sort of thought out critique, he's just writing for an audience.

>>6509600

For Plato, things can only have a quality in common because there is a Form in which both partake. So two good things both partake in the form of the Good. But if a thing is good because it shares in the form of the Good and if this form of the Good is itself good (as Plato says, auto kath'auto), then there must be another Form explaining THEIR correspondence.

Did he say he hated Aristotle? He said that Aristotle's thinking on issues like slavery seems pretty backwards from our perspective, which is...true.

>>6509626
He writes for *high school* students!?

>>6509219
i say eristottle

>>6509636
>muh third man argument
lol stay in school

>>6511410

Refute it buddy

>>6509186
Because he doesn't really know Aristotle's work on logic, natural philosophy, metaphysics, astronomy, biology, history, ethics, politics, rhetoric and arts.

Also, because he plays on the naive euphoric high-school narrative that Aristotle fucked science for 2000 years until we're finally saved by the sciencemen Newton and Galileo.

And because he is triggered by the arguments pro-slavery and pro-patriarchy.

>>6511415
>spoon feed me mummy
>Actually believing that the theory of forms referred to non-local transcendent entities.

To say the forms have been "debunked" as a concept is ridiculous because
1) Anyone who uses the word "debunked" isn't going to understand Plato
2) The theory of forms isn't a static conception, it changed over time.

I'm not going to refute the third man argument because the third man argument fundamentally misrepresents the nature of the forms. It's sound logic, Aristotle was a master logician but that's beside the point

>>6509233
Weird, I always pronounced it "Ah-ris-TOHT-eh-less", even if I know greek and know how it is written.

>>6511425

I agree that that guy's formulation is kinda silly, but then they're no longer Forms, they're essences.

>>6511426

I dunno, some historian told me it was originally pronounced this way. But then again, how are these fuckers supposed to know.

>>6511430
Because we know what their letters and words were pronounced like? Not all languages have such a retarded phonectic system as english.

>>6511426
In most latin languages is pronounced this way.

Also, English people rarely pronounce the third to last syllable as the tonic. Their words are too short.

>>6509639
>Aristotle's thinking on issues like slavery seems pretty backwards from our perspective
Oh, the anacrhonism...

because Aristotle was patriarchal and he confuses modern capitalist "patriarchy" with old world city state patriarchy. Also I would bet money he believes in the "dead hand of Aristotle" although I doubt he has the balls to admit that because it might imply he dislikes Christianity.

>shits on Aristotle
>nothing but praise for Thomas Aquinas

...?

>>6509639

he specifically stated "Aristotle is the worst philosopher of all time" in a history video

>>6511739
>dead hand of Aristotle
The what now?

>>6509732
Yes, of course. High school kids are the stupidest young people of all. Not only are they ignorant, they are self-righteous about being ignorant.

>>6509257

>>6509191
>Aristotle
>white
right...

>>6509186
His audience is young and naive, he is playing the 'hip' dude who 'thinks different.'

He probably fantasizes about being Nietzsche.

>>6511424
>And because he is triggered by the arguments pro-slavery and pro-patriarchy.
indeed a beta cuck like him will never bear Aristotle

Why does /lit/ hate him?

>yfw when you realize /lit/ spends more time talking about JG than his actual fans.

>>6512342
I can see how terrible he is for trying to give information to ignorant people. Can't have them stopping being ignorant, can we?

>>6512526
I'm sorry, where in my post did I say he should stop?

>>6509219
I say air - a - staht - uhl

>>6512498
Same reason they hate Alain de Botton. Green and de Botton use their otherwise useless degrees to gain money and notoriety whereas /lit/ uses their useless degrees to argue with high school students on 4chan.

It's a hard pill to swallow.

>>6509219
One way isn't any more or less correct than the other. I hear both all the time and probably switch between them myself.

>>6512490
source?

>>6512821
of what ?

the show is peep show

>>6509224
I hate you, kinda.

Ok, I'm trying to find where he actually discusses Aristotle.

There's a part in this video: https://youtu.be/3X5JMS9_EK8?t=450

Anything else?

>>6512479
He was Greek. So he was white. Do you not know understand what being white means?

>>6514811
Just found another instance: https://youtu.be/xM3_ltur0lo?t=142

I think I got cancer after watching that video. Does anyone have something to treat my cancer? Please. Help me.

Pinterest graphic.

>>6512479
If the founders of the Western tradition weren't white, then white people are historically inferior to the race of the founders of the Western tradition, whatever it was.

t. heir of the Roman Empire.

>>6509186
PROB cause in ethics, when Aristotle speaks of a cowardly man or a person of weak character, green feels that aristotle is describing him.

Plus his view on slaves and a hierarchy PROB bothers liberal green

Doesn't it make you feel good to know that even if the white race one day dies out, in a world of shitskins, some will look back on history and ask "why were white people so great and world-defining?"

>>6514896
I think that now

>>6514896
>implying shitskins will even learn white history in school

Most of them will probably look at the white race the way we look at arabs now.

>>6514857
>>6514874
woah dude

>>6514896
you didn't do shit though anon. the only thing you did in your life was shitpost on a Mongolian finger painting forum about "muh niggers". you aren't world defining, you're pathetic.

pic related, it's you.

>>6514957
(guy with low self-esteem projecting his failings onto others)

>>6514957
You're projecting so hard that that's probably an actual picture of you

>>6514962
>>6514978
lol

I bet Aristotle would really care a lot about what John Green thought of him

>>6511747
Does he actually praise Aquinas? I've heard him name-drop Aquinas once, though I've not watched many of his videos.

>>6514849
Eat a shark

Why would anyone care about either?

These John Green threads are *inauthentic*

Because he was wrong

>>6515085
we love John like a brother

>>6514957

>>6514849
Who would have thought that a guy from over 2000 years ago got some things wrong? He still, however, got some things right and was hugely influential on people who got even more things right.

Is it just cool to hate?

>>6514896
/pol/ please leave.

Aristotle sodomized young boys

John Green was sodomized when he was a little boy

2+2=4

>>6509277
Dubs dont lie.

>defecates on Aristotle whenever he can
>rims Thomas Aquinas

...?

>>6509203
He's known as "the teen whisperer". He will literally say anything to make himself appealing to a young audience. I could quote him saying that .333 repeated equals 1/3. .333 repeated times 3 equals one. Which is incorrect. He's simply ignorant.

>>6514896
>tfw whites will be the ancient greeks of the future

people will romanticize us and get holo-tattoos with quotes of shit we said. and they will have historical arguments on the interspace hypernet about how we lived our lives day to day and whether or not we really thought multiculturalism would work,

>>6516472
What are you saying? 0.333... is equivalent to 1/3, so multiplying either by 3 gives you 1

>>6516472

Yes. 0.333 repeating times 3 is equal to 1.
0.333... x 0.333... = 0.999...

0.999... is equal to 1

>>6516539
.999 repeating is NOT equal to 1.

>>6509219
arisstottel

>>6516580

Yes it is.

If X =/= Y then there must be a real number Z which is greater than one and smaller than the other.

What is the real number in between 0.999... and 1?

>>6516605
>mfw I use this against an autist and they can't answer it
Feels good knowing math.

>>6516610

mfw no face?


But yes, it's a nice feeling. Especially because people who insist they're different numbers usually act like arrogant assholes.

>>6516605
>What is the real number in between 0.999... and 1?
0.999∞

>>6514849
>Does anyone have something to treat my cancer?
Put a cigarette in your mouth but don't actually smoke it.
It's a metaphor.
You're putting the thing with the power to kill you between your teeth but you're not actually letting it.
Get it? It's a metaphor.
Like, if you were smoking it it could give you cancer, but you're not smoking it, just holding it there. Isn't that crazy, you're basically stopping it from killing you.
I's a metaphor.

>>6516634

Depending on what you just tried to write, either that's the same thing as 0.9 repeating or that's not a real number.

>>6516637
damn...

>>6516632
>>6516605
>>6516610
(1+9.99.....)/2

Bitch

>>6512526
He's not trying to give information to them. He is luring them in with hollow promises of giving them information that proves wrong the information they are given in school.

Why do we care what John Green thinks?

>>6516648
>either that's the same thing as 0.9 repeating or that's not a real number.
0.999∞ is 0.9 repeating, and 0.999∞ is not 1.

>>6516654
11/2? How is that relevant.

>>6516677
I meant to type:

(1+.999....)/2

>>6516696
meant for>>6516688

Also, math is only useful for describing the world. If it doesn't, as is the case with repeating numbers, then what it the point?

>>6516705
Nigga do you know how useful abstract math concepts are to the real world? Look up the use infinity in calculus.

>>6516669
>Why do we care what John Green thinks?
We have a John Green/Fault in our Stars thread every day because we have constructed him into a representation of 'aesthetically bad'.

We embrace the postmodern notion of 'death of human universals' and chant 'everything is a subjective reaction to a semantic framework', yet with John Green there is an almost mutual, unmentioned inter-subjective agreement that his work ought to be used to denote an 'aesthetic badness' form.

Aristotle is the only philosopher mentioned in american textbooks, and it usually done in a condescending way like "lol this guy thought fire was an element thankfully now me have muh science"
This is what Greenes audience knows about philosophy. Greene is all about appealing to his audience

>>6516742
I literally don't know, sorry was wrong. I haven't learned enough math so my brain just said it was stupid like most people do with literature.

Are there any "useless" fields of math though?

>>6516767
Perhaps logarithms if numbers that aren't e

>>6516748
>Aristotle is the only philosopher mentioned in american textbooks, and it usually done in a condescending way like "lol this guy thought fire was an element thankfully now me have muh science"

The way I first heard Aristotle described in school was positive:

Aristotle: Earth, Water, Air, Fire
2,000 years later...
Science: Solid, Liquid, Gas, Plasma

Ayy·ris·top·lel

The only correct pronunciation

>>6516777
See? Its all about how you spin it. My High school textbooks for whatever reason wanted to spin early philosophy badly. I remember one year a textbook did have a two page section about Descartes but it wasnt relevant to standardized testing so we skipped it.

>>6516792
haha, upvoted

>>6516767
Utility depends on time. Some say that a pure math degree is as useful as an English degree.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_mathematics

>>6516746
>We embrace the postmodern notion of 'death of human universals'

Speak for yourself

>>6509219
ahrisTOHTul

>>6516580
did you finish school, mate?

>>6516637

>>6516677


Again, tell me the real number between 0.9(infinite nines follow) and 1.
If they are two different numbers, there must be a real number in between, so tell me which number is ti?

>>6516654

Yeah, that's 1.

Solve this

x*10 - x = 9

>>6516847
Did you?

/sci/ would be fucking ashamed if they saw this.

>>6516917
this is a meme on /sci/

>>6516776

Are you shitting me? Have you actually done PDE's or something?

>>6514618
what episode though

>>6514811
>metaphorically resonant

>>6509186
cause if he says he does, ppl may pay attention to him. In reality, I doubt he's read any of Aristotle's works

Because the modern left progressive is defined by a lack of appreciation for history and cultural context. Their obsession with other cultures doesn't go beyond a pair of chopsticks and some alien-looking fabrics.

>>6514866

>>6509204
happiness is an active form of virtue in accordance with the soul
I read Aristotle in college and still remember most of Nichomachean Ethics
he was just wrong about cosmology though then again so was John Locke and he is one of my favorite British philosophers

>>6509186
probably has something to do with Poetics

for some reason everyone wants to shit on his definition of tragedy then again so did James Joyce in A Portrait

>>6509219
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Nsx0HNKPyI

>>6517081
I would call myself modern left and have nothing BUT appreciation for context. Sometimes I wonder where I truly fit on the the spectrum though and if "left" isn't just a way of saying I represent the values of my circumstance, that is, upper-class, but born and raised in a large city, gay, male, bitter, but idealistic and soulful. I sleep on a confederate flag blanket but I vote Green Party. So I don't know really. Semiotics are wacky.