/lit/ - Literature

Ulysses is for all centuries

What were the Ulysseses of the 19th, 18th, 17th, 16th, 15th, 14th, 13th and 12th centuries?

>>6504440
No, and there really couldn't be. No late capitalist society could produce such a man. There will never be another Joyce again, I'm sorry to say.

>>6504572
Actually there is one.

>>6504572
> Who is T.R. Pinecone

>>6504572
>late capitalist
There it is

>>6504615
There's also someone who is the new TRP.

>>6504615
Good call. Though I don't retract my statement. Pynchon is an anomaly. It really makes no sense that someone like him exists.

>>6504624
Maybe it's a conspiracy

There's even a Samuel Beckett of the 21st century. Even a Borges.

>>6504634
>>6504620
>>6504578
I'll bet you think I'm just making all this shit up, btw. But actually I'm not.

Homestuck is the Ulysses of the Internet.

>>6504640
Explain

>>6504440
>>6504572
>>6504578

We're only fifteen years in, chill till we're at least halfway in.

>>6504657
Does the word "phenoptosis" ring a bell?

>>6504668
But I will be old, then. I want to read the true literary geniuses of our era, now.

>>6504676
Ahh I see. But who are the new Joyce, Pinecone, and Borges?

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Give me a few more years; i'm still working on it.

>>6504709
I suspect you might be leading yourself down the garden path, but if you can guess Beckett, you can guess at least one of the others

This is the ultimate pleb test, by the way. If you don't know what I'm talking about, then I will not share my secrets with you.

>>6504711
towelin is a freakin pleb

*unsheathes dick*
nothing personnel kid

tao lin, faggot

The media is telling me that /Min Kamp/ is the /À la recherche/ of the 21st century, at least.

>>6504440
No, but if IJ had been published a few years later it would've been. There's plenty of daily life in between the bizarro conspiracy stuff and it's definitely a love-hate note to Boston. I read Infinite Jest when I moved to the Boston area for college and it defined why I love this city.

i dunno bout Ulysses-status but I think 2666 will likely be considered one of the best books of the 21st century by the time we reach the 22nd

>irish righters

>>6504910
Not to mention the 21st century isnt even a fifth done so there's lotsa time.

>>6504440
2666 is one of the only things that comes to mind. Easily one of the greatest books of the 21st century so far.

>>6504570
>19th
Moby-Dick
>18th
Dream of the Red Chamber
>17th
Don Quixote
>16th
Gargantua and Pantagruel
>15th
Tirant lo Blanc
>14th
Divine Comedy, Decameron, or Canterbury Tales
>13th
Parzival or the Lancelot-Grail
>12th
Nibelungenlied

>>6506351
This list is dubious to say the least. I mean, you didn't even consider the ridiculously obvious Tristram Shandy for the 18th century (probably the msot obvious choice, even, though something by Swift or Smollett might also work), and chose a freaking Chinese novel instead? And Moby-Dick for the 19th? I'd probably pick something by Charles Dickens, whose work had a very clear and direct influence on Joyce. Don Quixote, Gargantua and Pantagruel, and the Divine Comedy at least make sense, but for the most part, you have no clue what you're doing.

>>6506604
I literally have Tristram Shandy sitting on my desk, and I considered it, but it doesn't have the same sense of place that I think a Ulysses-like work should. I went with Dream of the Red Chamber and Moby-Dick because of the scope, stylistic polyphony, wordplay, and use of the classics.

>>6506639
Well, at least you have some reasoning, but you're definitely reaching with the romances.

>>6506639
>Tristam Shandy not same place as Don Quixote and Ulysses

u wot?

>>6507062
Not just good books, but books that are similar in some way to Ulysses. That person thinks a Chinese novel, more than Tristram Shandy, is similar to Ulysses.

>>6506351
>XIIth
The Song of Roland, Reynard
>XIIIth
Nibelungenlied, Poetic Edda
>XIVth
Divine Comedy, Romance of the Three Kingdoms
>XVth
Tirant lo Blanc
>XVIth
The Essays, Gargantua and Pantagruel
>XVIIth
Don Quixote, Paradise Lost
>XVIIIth
Tristram Shandy, Encyclopaedia, Dream of the Red Chamber
>XIXth
War and Peace, Faust, the Miserable, Moby Dick
>XXth
Ulysses, In Search of Lost Time

>>6507153
>The Essays
Of Montaigne I assume.

>Encyclopaedia
Of Diderot and d'Alembert I assume.

>>6507167
Seems obvious

>>6507171
Yes, except for the fact that those words don't refer to anything specific outside of that context.

>>6504651
Homestuck is the Naked Lunch of the internet.
It's shit

>>6504570
the odyssey

>>6504440
How will you ever know if all you read are classics?