/lit/ - Literature

>>6484621
>>>/middleschool/

>>6484621
one day i am nihilism, the other day i am pluralism, depending on wether I accept sollipsism

Why do you ask?

Its a stage of life man, you'll get over it.

>>6484621
Im too plagued by spooks to be a nihilist

These paintings have almost brought me to tears, but always look like so shit online. I've seen the one in the OP displayed in the tate modern gallery, and it's honestly beautiful. It's more than a painting, too, with the ambient lighting, it became an atmosphere. You could feel through your whole body the sheer brutality of the canvas. In pathetically trying to recall how I felt in that visit, I can only say that I finally understood what art can do for people.

Even pic related doesn't do it justice. They need to be seen in real life.

>>6485353
this

stay busy, productive, and spend time with good people. this brought me out of my nihilism.

>>6484621
>>6484653
>>6486285
i saw his paintings in person in various museums, but i never found myself even slightly affected by them. it wasn't until i saw real skyscrapers, tightly packed, for the first time that i actually got him

>>6485353
>>6486291
>treating nihilism like it's depression
It's okay that you couldn't handle the thought that life has no inherent meaning, but nihilism is no less valid or live-able than existentialism.

Eventually you'll fool yourself out of it. Become a pragmatist and just do what works and has the most positive benefit for you.

>>6486291
wageslave spook general?

Is it nihilistic if I think everything is pointless, has no meaning, serves no higher purpose and use this as a reason to be happy?

I'm not familiar with Nihilism but once I realised those things I found it easier to be happy. Am I wrong for thinking nihilism is an optimistic philosophy?

>>6486333
Sounds almost like absurdism. If nihilism makes you happy I don't see how this could be considered wrong.

>>6485353
>>6486291

what do you two anons think nihilism is?

nihilism.

>>6484621

How one could see this painting and be Nihilist I do not know.

>>6486395
Why does the capacity to be moved by art refute nihilism?

>>6486395
If >>6486285 and >>6486307 are anything to go by, the paintings show that life has a constant display of beauty. To accept that is to reject nihilism imo

>>6486404
>To accept that is to reject nihilism imo
What does the existence of beauty have to do with the meaning of life?

Why's everyone acting like nihilism=existential depression, can't you guys handle the banter?

Rule number one for starting a nihilism thread: Always make it explicitly clear in the OP that nihilism =/= depression

>>6486395

How one could see this painting and not think "pause button" I do not know.

art thread?

>>6484621
How do you mean nihilism?

>>6486555
You're a faggot and you know it

>>6486412
>the pursuit of beauty doesn't give life meaning

top cuck

>>6486412
Recognizing something as beautiful requires you to make a value judgement otherwise it's no different from liking anything else.

>>6484621
Nihilism is some pussy shit to me tbh.

>>6484621

Everybody. Don't you realize what's going on here?

>>6486615
No, nihilism is an open concept

Rothko is absolutely degenerate, jesus christ

>>6486674
I approve this mesage!

There is only one logical argument to oppose nihilism, and it is "le highschool XD"

Isn't nihilism something that just *is*
Like there's no inherent morality, hence; moral nihilism?

>>6485353
You're thinking of existentialism, right?
That you can get over.

essential nihilism?

>>6486674
You have forgotten to formulate the reasons why omnicidism follows logically as a viable philosophy.

I can think of certain approaches, but I'd like to see you develop your philosophy. Preferably from the ground up, everything else is just posing.

>>6486285
I hate modern "art" so much.

I just don't get why rothko makes people weep. just looks like a bunch of blurry shapes to me

>>6486333
I cannot comprehend how one could be happy at the outlook that nothing matters.

Maybe if you are someone who made a lot of very bad decisions in life, maybe than I could see that someone could find some relief in nihilism... but once you have "produced" just one thing, how sad it must be that it was pointless.

Nihilism is fucking depressing.

>>6487887
>I just don't get why rothko makes people weep. just looks like a bunch of blurry shapes to me
rothko said all his works are about tragedy and drama. for people who love these two themes, you can bet that they will love it after feeling alive thanks to the paintings

>>6487887
It draws something out of them.
Like the one I posted. I looked at it long enough to see a field at night on fire, but it's just some colors

>>6487888
if you are sad that it was pointless, then you wanted a goal beforehand.
the first goal in life, is to destroy the idea of a goal and all the goals that were put in your head so far

>>6486542
>>>/biz/

>>6487893
Why?
I disagree.

The depression of nihilism is that even if you have goals, they don't matter. Which is correct. Nihilism is irrefutable truth. I do not consider it good, though.

>>6487891
yeah but why would a bunch of blurry shapes make you think about tragedy and drama? what possible connection is there between the paintings and those themes, or any themes?

>>6487893
and so because it loops around realistic depiction, it's like seeing it for the first time, or something? or seeing a field on fire for what it really is (muh forms)? and that makes it more powerful?

>>6484621
Get a hobby that includes the creation of intellectual property

>>6487983
being a hobbyist appeals to no one with a brain

Still waiting for /lit/ to get over the middle schooler understanding of nihilism.

>>6488002
nihil unbound isn't a good contribution to the study of nihilism.

>>6488002
I remember this article from him
http://www.kronos.org.pl/index.php?23151,896

>>6488009
I disagree, what now?

>>6487997
ok

>>6488011
you can tell me what the central thesis of nihil unbound is, or indeed any original contribution Brassier makes (rather than summarizing a number of basically unrelated aspects of different thinkers and debates, from EM to Heidegger).

>>6488025
Cba to spoonfeed really.

>>6487997
Agreed.
It's like accepting you'll always be mediocre and unnecessary in something. It's just playing with toys for adults.

Turn a hobby into expertise.

>>6487885
*tips fedora*

>>6488002
hes a nerd using saying nothing words new. hume and yang zhu said it better

>>6488040
not just one thing? Are you sure it's 'spoonfeeding' you can't be arsed to do? Or do you maybe not want to judge your assessment of nihil unbound against any real content you might remember from it?

How would Rothko be representative of nihilism?

there was an american painters exhibition in my city not too long ago and Rothko was listed amongst the artists on display. I was a bit bummed it was one of his older pieces before his classic period, im making it a life goal to go see his paintings at one point when im travelling. At least they had some of Georgia O'Keefe's classic stuff.

>>6487899
>yeah but why would a bunch of blurry shapes make you think about tragedy and drama?
>>6487892
They bring their own emotions and see what they want to see. If you're not feeling it, you aren't going to like Rothko. It's a simple trick.