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Hey boys. What version of Ulysses should I get? I bought bottom right and its a pile of shit.

>> No.6481118

The 1961 edition

>> No.6481222

>>6481107
Bottom left is crap. The top left is the one I have and its pretty good.

>> No.6481230

I have the top middle.
Mommy and Daddy bought it for me.

>> No.6481234

>>6481222
>Gabler edition

PLEEEEBBBB

>> No.6481322

I read the ugly ass purple/yellow/red one and it seemed fine

>> No.6481346

Top-Middle is meant to be good

>> No.6481349

I recently bought bottom middle. Is it good?

>> No.6481944

>>6481222
Why is bottom left crap. I picked it up at my local bookshop on a whim and I need to know.

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6481972

>>6481107

>> No.6481981

I use the Oxford World Classics version and it's pretty good.

>> No.6482020

Are there really major differences? Wasn''t it written in English?

>> No.6482027

>>6481107
>not reading Joyce's original manuscript

plebs

>> No.6482036

>>6481107
My one kind of looks like top-middle but greyish brown instead of blue and with a red spine

>> No.6482040

>>6482020
Some of them have notes and shit or weird layouts. And of course the cover.

>> No.6482063

>>6481107

Maybe it's shit because Ulysses is shit? Just throwin' that out there.

>> No.6482067

>>6481107

I have the lower middle one. Haven't read it entirely yet but I skimmed the first few pages and it seems fine.

>> No.6482068

>>6481944
It isn't crap at all. Reading the cover gives away the final lines of the book though so that's dumb.

>> No.6482077

>>6481107
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/4300

>> No.6482088

>>6482077
https://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/j/joyce/james/j8u/
ebooks@adelaide usually gives its mobi/epub a nicer formatting, while gutenberg often just dumps the txt

>> No.6482096

>>6481107
The one with the fedora because you sound like one.

>> No.6482102
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6482102

Penguin makes an annotated one with decent sized font and large margins. It made it a lot easier to read and was fun learning about the references and Irish history. For example except for the most immediate kin, women did not attend funerals in fin de siecle Ireland. Neat details like that that I would have had no idea of without the notes.

>> No.6482114

>>6482102
reccing this

>> No.6482115

>>6481107
Is the top middle good?
It has the best cover.

>> No.6482294

>>6481107
is top mid illustrated?

>> No.6482472

>>6481234
Eat a dick.

>>6481944
Well its subjective, but I find the print to small and the book doesn't really feel well to hold.

>> No.6482489

what's the best annotated version?

>> No.6482499

>implying it matters if its in english

>> No.6482529

>>6482499
obviously you know jack shit about ulysses

>> No.6483944

I bought that seagreen coloured one that looks like the title was written partially with a sharpie. Haven't opened it yet just got it last week did I fuck up?

>> No.6483948

Thinking about ordering the Vintage one, is it good?

>> No.6483954

>>6482529
You're the pleb reading it in translation.

>> No.6484055

>>6483944
I heard that was one of the best ones

>> No.6484095

Is it okay to just read the Public Domain epub? Or is it imperative to have an edition with some intros and notes?

>> No.6484102

>>6481107
Penguin student edition is serving me well.
I cut the notes off the end and keep them propped open as I read, with my phone ready to Google things not included.

>> No.6484298

Does anyone known the difference between the Odyssey Press edition (currently published by Alma Classics) and the more common Bodley Head/Random House edition?

>> No.6484312

>>6484095
It's fine so long as you're prepared to look a shit-ton of things up for yourself.

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6485363

>>6481107
Has anybody got the "Reader's Edition"?

It claims to be the ultimate version of the text...

>> No.6485373

>>6485363
Every other one claims to be the most complete or ultimate or unabridged or etc... version. Don't pay too much attention to the editorial hype the publishers try to sell their editions on.

>> No.6485482

>>6485373
Yeah, thought it would be hype. Funnily enough the introduction talks about how "there could be no definitive edition".

Which would you recommend?

>> No.6485650

>>6485482
Different anon but I love the 1922 text from Oxford. It has annotations at the end for each chapter as well, if you want to just check out meanings of phrases in other languages/references/allusions or go deeper into critics' analysis (I didn't)

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6485741

>>6485482

>> No.6485764

>>6482027
>not time travelling and using your telepathy to listen to Joyce's thoughts as he wrote Ulysses
Mega-plebs detected

>> No.6486354

>>6485363
That's the Danis Rose version. It alters the text and adds punctuation. If you enjoy annoying Joyce fanbois it could be worth a try.

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6486360

Master race comin' through.

>> No.6486379
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6486379

>>6486360
They should have quit while they were ahead.

>> No.6486389

>>6486360
Classy.

>> No.6486390

>>6486360
I always see a bunch of their covers in shit cover threads yet I've never seen any of their books IRL. Are they even a real thing?

>> No.6486391

>>6481118

most definitely.

>> No.6486399

>>6486390
No, they're the cheapest in the market for a reason.

>> No.6486416

>>6486399
I assumed their quality was shit if they existed, but my question was more "Do they actually print books with those covers or is the whole thing a meme?" rather than "Are they worth buying?" since the answer to the second question would obviously be no.

>> No.6486428

>>6486416
>Do they actually print books with those covers
Yes.

http://www.wordsworthclassics.com/WWTitles.aspx?cat=wwc#

>> No.6486430

>>6485650
>>6485741
Thanks, it has a cool cover too.

>> No.6486617

>>6486416
> would obviously be no

Actually you'd be surprised, they're not awful despite their covers. As long as you stay away from the works that needed translations, they can be actually A-OK. I've got this Edgar Allan Poe collection from Wordsworth and it's a really neat anthology. My concern would be the thin paper, but other than that, it's cool.

>> No.6486727

Why are there so many different editions?

>> No.6486729

Trieste-Zurich-Paris
1914-1921

>> No.6486751

>>6486617
Even if they can be acceptable, I'd still pay full price for something better and if I was really completely broke I'd either go to the library or pirate.

>> No.6486753

follow your heart

>> No.6486756

I took a Joyce seminar and the professor had us use the Gabler. He claimed it more faithful to Joyce's original than earlier versions ("it's go the big black dot at the end of Ithaca!"), but according to wikipedia, that's untrue.

I don't know, but the Gabler edition has a cool cover and nice wide margins.

>> No.6486760

>>6481107 doesnt matter as long as you can read english they are all the same

>> No.6486766

>>6486756
>the professor had us use the Gabler
GR8
>He claimed it more faithful to Joyce's original than
B8
>but according to wikipedia, that's untrueearlier versions
M8

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>>6486766
It 8NT B8, M8.

I'm not sure what part of my post you think is bait, or why.

>> No.6486808

>>6484095
http://libgen.org/search.php?req=ulysses+james+joyce&open=0&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def
also, there's a pdf of >>6485741 in there

>> No.6486839

>>6481230
Mine too !!!

>> No.6486866

>>6486727
Many reasons.

For starters, Joyce made thousands of revisions while the novel was going to print and even after it came out. In any given passage, there might be several contradicting versions that Joyce had revised at different times. Furthermore, the editors and printers made several hundred errors, so the original 1922 version is far from "definitive" or "what Joyce intended" and he spent years trying to correct all its mistakes.

Too add to all this, Ulysses was banned in pretty much every major country when it first came out, and for a long time all that was available were pirated versions of the novel smuggled across borders. These of course were of terrible quality and full of mistakes.

To sum up, basically it was a combination of the novel's inherently unconventional prose, spelling, and formatting, Joyce's fussiness as a writer, the difficult circumstances surrounding Ulysses' publication, and years of unauthorized copies confusing things any more. Some editions are better than others, but there will never be a definitive one.

>> No.6487002

>>6486778

>8NT
>eightn't
>t'nt

You should probably read something better suited to your intellectual abilities. The Very Hungry Caterpillar might be a good place to start.

>> No.6487243

>>6481107
Gabler edition is the worst edition, if you have one, throw it out immediately

>> No.6487249

>>6486379
This is the one I have, would recommend

>> No.6487257

>>6486839
>>6481230
Is it good, and is it annoted?
I like the cover of that one the most.

>> No.6487284

>>6487002
You're mean!

>> No.6487476

>>6483954
Nice b8

>> No.6487706

This book sucks. Stop trying to be try hard lit professors and suck it up and admit. Did you honestly enjoy being punished through chapters and chapters of prose bullshit. If you did you are a lying pretentious douche bag

>> No.6487710

>>6487706
>punished through chapters and chapters of prose bullshit
Goodreads pls go

>> No.6487713

>>6487706
>Did you honestly enjoy being punished

>he didn't enjoy it
top pleb

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6487716

Is it worth buying Ulysses translated I don't think my English is good enough to read it in original. It costs a fucking fortune, too.

>> No.6487717

>>6487710
Cool justify yourself by insinuating I have a Goodreads account. YOU ARE THE PRETENTIOUS DOUCHEBAG. btw no sophisticated woman is ever going to come into you house "Oh What's this anon did you read Ulysses??!?, You are so sexc" You dumb fuck.

>> No.6487768

>>6487716
The majority of the book is basically Joyce lubing himself up with the English language and masturbating furiously. I can't imagine it translating very well.

Maybe revisit it when you're older and you've read a bit more.

>> No.6487782

>>6487768
Damn. I have his stories and A Portrait translated, but I'm not buying Ulysses any time soon. Thank you.

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6488903

>>6487717
Hi, Chad.

>> No.6488950

>>6482115
It's the original 1922 printing, so it's rife with typos and errors, but personally I enjoyed it.

>> No.6488969

>>6488903
I fucking burst out laughing at "like with the IRA" hahahaha chad my darling

>> No.6488974

http://www.vintage-books.co.uk/books/0099511193/james-joyce/ulysses/

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i picked up this hardcover version from chapters because it was cheap. can an any canadafags tell me if i fucked up or not?