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6463927 No.6463927 [Reply] [Original]

Coleridge wrote with opium

Hemingway wrote drunk
>"Write drunk, edit sober"

Huxley wrote with mescaline

Kesey wrote with LSD

What are your favorite substances to write with, /lit/? Or maybe just to get inspiration for later writing? How has it helped you?

>> No.6463937

Adderall.

/thread

>> No.6463941

>>6463937
yup. that's definitely a good one. don't really think that's what OP was going for tho

>> No.6463943

>>6463927
I like nitrous

can't really write with it though

>> No.6463946

>>6463927
Hemmingway never wrote drunk, that was Faulkner.

>> No.6463950

>>6463946
and fitzgerald. and a million other authors. but not hemmingway

>> No.6463956

>>6463927
My process:
>write drunk
>send it to a few people drunk
>generally positive feedback save for overuse of commas
>like it still sober the next day
>get drunk and delete it all in hate

>> No.6463963

>>6463946
I wouldn't say never

>> No.6463983

a dick in my ass

>> No.6463989

We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of Budweiser, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls. Not that we needed all that for the trip, but once you get locked into a serious drug-collection, the tendency is to push it as far as you can. The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. And I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon.

>> No.6464060

>>6463927
>carver wrote drunk
>carver wrote better sober tho

>> No.6464236

>>6463989
holy fuck how are you alive

>> No.6464250

>>6464236
He's not. Hunter S. Thompson died like 10 years ago.

>> No.6464278

>>6463927
I've live in the Netherlands for the last three years and as such have developed quite the cannabis habit.
Smoke about a gram and half a day (split 3 with my girlfriend).

I suppose that would be my drug of choice.

>> No.6464294

>>6464236
It's the opening line from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

In other words, my most intense was my 19th birthday:

3/4ths a 75cl of Vodka
Gram of Mdma
Quite a few lines of speed
Given a little coke
Loads of beers and shots
Smoked weed the entire time
Had a nintendo pill put in my mouth at 3 am

Found my shoe in the middle of the road on the way to pick up weed the next day.
Blacked out and had convulsions while smoking a joint in a coffee shop the same day.

>> No.6464301

>>6464294
oh and a teensy big of ketamine too

>> No.6464370

>>6463927
I like to write while really tired. I usually listen to chill music and drink coffee to stay awake.

>> No.6464399

>>6464236
>doesn't know where it's from
holy fuck how are you on /lit/

>> No.6464610

>>6464399
>being on /lit/ requires reading every book in existence
Do I need to watch Gone With The Wind before I'm qualified to be on /tv/, too?

>> No.6464634

>>6463927
>yfw Huxley believed in ESP
>yfw Huxley believed in diagnosing cancer with radio waves
>yfw Huxley believed in dianetics

Aldous Huxley was a pseudoscientific retard who wrote one shitty book that 2deep introverted retards hail. Give it up, dog.

>> No.6464650

This process has led to my best received pieces:
>Get completely black-out drunk on spirits
>Hallucinate mad shit hung over while half-asleep
>Take notes as soon as I'm recovered enough to open my eyes
>Keep honing the idea over a month or so
>Write out full text when sober
>Take amphetamine sulphates, masturbate for 8 hours
>Edit heavily on the come-down

>> No.6464671

>>6464610
No. It's a great book, or rather two stories he wrote for Rolling Stone turned into a book. However, if you say you've read it you get called a teenage pleb.

>> No.6464672

>>6464250

Not so much from the drugs though!

>> No.6464720

>>6464634
>Huxley was a pseudoscientific retard who wrote one shitty book that 2deep introverted retards hail. Give it up, dog.

gr8h8m8

>> No.6464730

>>6464294

lmao...a gram of mdma. sure buddy

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_dose.shtml

>> No.6464744

>>6463989

fyi, fear and loathing was written bone cold sober. it's just ABOUT those experiences.

a doubt there's much of anything decent that was written not sober

>> No.6464761
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6464761

>>6463927
>Hemingway wrote drunk
>>"Write drunk, edit sober"

That's made up by idiots. This is from his actual correspondence:

>Don't you drink? I notice you speak slightingly of the bottle. I have drunk since I was fifteen and few things have given me more pleasure. When you work hard all day with your head and know you must work again the next day what else can change your ideas and make them run on a different plane like whisky? When you are cold and wet what else can warm you? Before an attack who can say anything that gives you the momentary well-being that rum does?... The only time it isn't good for you is when you write or when you fight. You have to do that cold. But it always helps my shooting. Modern life, too, is often a mechanical oppression and liquor is the only mechanical relief.
>The only time it isn't good for you is when you write or when you fight. You have to do that cold.


Hemingway's writing routine:

>When I am working on a book or story I write every morning as soon after first light as possible. There is no one to disturb you and it is cool or cold and you come to your work and warm as you write. You read what you have written and, as you always stop when you know what is going to happen next, you go on from there. You write until you come to a place where you still have your juice and you know what will happen next and you stop and try to live through until the next day when you hit it again. You have started at six in the morning, say, and may go on until noon or be through before that. When you stop you are as empty, and at the same time never empty but filling, as when you have made love to someone you love. Nothing can hurt you, nothing can happen, nothing means anything until the next day when you do it again. It is the wait until the next day that is hard to get through.

Pls be informed.

>> No.6464790

Editing requires a lot of attention to detail, analytical thinking, stuff like that so stimulants usually.

Creating stuff requires the ability to play with ideas, so really anything vaguely psychedelic.

It's that open mode/closed mode thing.

>> No.6464847

>>6464730
It's not unusual for people to take a gram of MD. Keep in mind it's really unusual for that shit to be pure.

>> No.6464859

>>6463927
I usually write hopped up on caffeine after getting little to no sleep. Sometimes drunk too, but not often.

>> No.6464861

I need despair and sadness.
I'll revel in my self loathing; alone with my thoughts until it starts looking like something I might want to read. Then I'll come back to it in a few days and scrap the whole thing, because it's shit.
One day I'll have my magnum opus, or not. Time will tell.

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6464874

>>6464861
Iktf, but I apply it the other way around. When I'm feeling pleasantly at peace without the desire to write I consider myself living the good life. I aspire to not write. Or think too much for that matter.

Writing can be therapeutic, but the need for therapy itself shows there is something wrong.

>> No.6464946

>>6464847

>Keep in mind it's really unusual for that shit to be pure.

then you're not doing a fucking gram of mdma then genius. you're doing half or a more likely a quarter or however cut your shit is. mine's 84%. none's doing a fucking gram of that w/o serious tolerance.

honestly, did you even check the erowid link? 200mg is a HEAVY trip (i.e. equivalent to 5g of mushrooms or 400ug acid in terms of strength). i dont even know what would happen if you took 5x that amount.

>> No.6464945

who /coke/ masterrace here

>> No.6465071

>>6464946
Are you seriously expecting people to get their shit measured every time and work out the exact percentage and therefore dosage? Look, people get high and just keep taking whatever it is they have. Often it's dangerous quantities. If you're going to be autistic about it you should factor in that people have different brain chemistries and different drugs affect them differently in different quantities. There are probably freaks around that can take a gram every weekend and be fine, you don't know. You're being pretentious about your knowledge of chemistry.

>> No.6465116

>>6465071
Ecstasy is probably the most commonly diluted illicit substance available. If you just throw down whatever you've got on hand, you should get ready to get screwed over. 600mg is overdose-tier.
Seeing as you're still posting, either what you swallowed was cut to hell and back or you'd built up a resistance.

>> No.6465120

>>6465116
>either what you swallowed was cut to hell and back or you'd built up a resistance.
Yes, that's what I'm saying. But even in that situation, as no-one has the means to easily measure the stuff or what their resistance is, we just talk about having taken whatever the weight of the substance we had at hand. Getting all uppity about how it can't really have been a gram of pure ecstasy is just silly.

>> No.6465136

>>6464761
Thank you, anon

>> No.6465167

none of the romantic poets "wrote" under the influence of opium. its nearly impossible to form anything remotely coherent. they were influenced by it in that their imagery they saw in the opium dreams was later used for poems.

if anyone is interested in an examination of the common imagery from opium, read "opium and the romantic imagination" by alethea hayter

>> No.6465185

ive eaten about 500 morning glory seeds (celestial blue is the only one that works if i recall correctly). I do not recommend eating them whole, if you are going to try it (LSA, natural form of LSD), at least extract it. I think they coat it with a vomiting agent or something.

however I believe it is the inspiration for the 'blue flower' novalis spoke of

>> No.6465472

>>6465185
Oh yeah, shit is disgusting. And since it unsettles your stomach it makes you feel all disgusting and unclean if you don't keep your mind off of it. Eating that stuff on a solo trip at night was a trip to inexplicable horror for sure.

>> No.6465559

>>6464730

i've done more than a gram of pure mdma i got from the underweb via a german pharmaceutical company and i live in argtentina

>> No.6465613

>>6465472
>Eating that stuff on a solo trip at night was a trip to inexplicable horror for sure.

exactly how I did it haha. I eventually puked it all up though. I think I'm stronger for having gone through it however

>> No.6465631

>>6465613
I'm a maniac right now!

>> No.6465654

>>6464945
It's fun. I started smoking crack and after that I could never snort it again. It's like a coke high compressed down into 30 seconds, it's nuts.

>> No.6465680

>>6465185
How do you extract it?

I'm interested in morning glory seeds but eating them as is sounds bad

>> No.6465775

>>6465680
I dont remember, it should be on erowid tho

>> No.6466209

Adderall XR and a joint or two of medical-grade sativa. Gets me writing like a champion.

Also, every now and then I eat an eighth of mushrooms and walk around a forest. That's just to clean out the mental pipes, though. I've wanted to give acid a shot, but every time I ask my guy for that, he flakes out on me. I think I need a new guy.

For me, alcohol doesn't work as anything but a social lubricant. It's terrible for my writing process.

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>>6463927
Nothing, I prefer writing sober but I use drugs to give me ideas to write about sober. I find everything I write high is pretentious or trying to make something obvious sound profound.

>> No.6466324

I've literally never done drugs and I the few times I get drunk I get very tired and go to sleep. I'm 87% sure I've got the body system of a canine.

>> No.6466326

I don't write on anything but mushrooms are my friend. I can trip and think about what I should work on for my novel.

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6466366

I get high on memes.

>> No.6466467

>>6464730
throughout the night muggins and yes

>> No.6467063

>>6465071

lmao. actually knowing what shit your taking is pretentious now? you're an idiot

>> No.6467078

>>6466366
I OD'd on Pepes one night now I'm on 2mg of le millenoms and a couple of wew lads

>> No.6467419

>>6463956
Pretty much.
I shortly came to realize I'll never manage to write anything that'll survive my drunken, cynical purges.
I don't even attempt to write anymore.

>> No.6467428

>>6464634
Hey don't be so judgemental.
ESP guitars aren't that bad.

>> No.6467447

>>6464946

How the fuck can MDMA be "equivalent" to mushrooms and acid in strength? That comparison does´t make sense to me.

>> No.6467459

>>6464874
ugh, you have your priorities in order

>> No.6467470

>>6464874
Quietism is phillistinic, an opiate for those who are afraid they have nothing to express.

>> No.6467477

>>6467470
>talking when you have nothing to say because you are physically unable to stop spouting bullshit

are you a girl?