/lit/ - Literature

Symbolists ftw. Moreau and Redon, best painters ever.

Based Klimt

isnt there another board where this would go better?

or is this just culture general?

anyway, contribootin

a bit lewd.

>>6449598
I thought Nabokov was merely a pedo

>>6449598
CHECK THE THIGHS ON CRESSIDA.
#hightestalphamale

>>6449601
Good shit anon

Who wants me to crack open my book illumination collection

>>6449619
>Good shit anon

I love Nolde. He's the best expressionist landscape painter... uh, after Van Gogh.

>>6449595
/lit has always been for be a combination of literature, philosophy, and art and I'm fine with that as neither ever exist in a vacuum

Read a Fucking Book.jpg

>>/ic/

What part of Literature don't you guys understand.

>>6449591
Aphrodisiac^^

>>6449468
>/lit/ - Literature
please stop

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>>6449468
roto-cubism ftw

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DUDE READ LMAAOOOOOOO

>>6449744
shut up femanon the patriarchy is monitoring this thread.

>>6449468
I MADE THE DECISION TO GET REAL WILD

>>6449803
I MADE THE DECISION ONCE AGAIN TO GET REAL WILD

>>6449814
MOTHER FUCKING MARIO MERZ GETTING REAL FUCKING WILD UP IN HERE

You know, if you ask questions, there maybe people in this thread that can educate you on art.

I would like these threads a lot more if we agreed to only post about certain movements, for example impressionism one thread and then cubism or Modern Art, or sculpture the next. Also I think one should have to post his opinion on the portrait he posts and others can critique/ add to the conversation.

>>6449820
MOTHER FUCKING BEN SCHUMACHER WITH THAT MOTHERFUCKING WILD NEW NEW

>>6449827
OUUHH SHIT HERE COMES MUFUKIN RODIN WITH THAT REAL WILD

Who are some talented artists to emerge in the last 50 years? I know it can't all be abstract and conceptual bullshit.

>>6449831
OH SHIT WHILE IM ON THAT DROOPY RODIN TIP IMMA BRING IN THE FUCKING MAN WOMAN MICHELANGELO DROOPY BIBLE CREATURE FUCK WILD

>>6449840
ON THAT MAN WOMAN TIP MOTHERFUCKING FORREST BESS UP IN THIS BITCH WITH HIS FUCKING DICK SLICING VISIONARY ABSTRACTIIIOONNNNNNNN WOOOOO

>>6449835
SUP MY NIGGA IMMA CALLED JOSEPH BEUYS AND I AM A SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO WAGNER DUCHAMP WHO KIND OF EMERGED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS AND IS NOT EXACTLY TOTALLY CONCEPTUAL MY NIGGA ALSO BRUCE NAUMAN AND MARIO MERZ AND PISTOLETTO AND IDK

>>6449835
OH SHIT MY NIGGA I FORGOT ABOUT ISA GENZKEN WHO IS 'ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL ARTISTS OF THE LAST' COUPLE DECADES FOR REAL AND WHO IS HOT AS FUCK ART-WISE HERE IS SOME OF HER ART <----
TO THE LEFT

>>6449855
Y'ALL GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND DOING SOME RESPONDING ON MY SHIT IF YALL WANT ME TO GO ON

>>6449850
>Bruce Nauman

>>6449835
OH ALSO ERICKA BECKMAN : https://vimeo.com/50517466
AND MIKE KELLEY ARE P GREAT

>>6449876
DISAPPOINTEDD THIS IS NOT AN ANIMATED GIF

JEAN-LUC MOULENE IS OBVI SOME REAL WILD HOT SHIT THESE DAYS

>>6449879
>MIKE KELLY
looks like someone who would invade the ukraine

>>6449876
Muh interpretation: use it or lose it. BAAAM

>>6449855
MOTHERFUCKING ALEXANDER HARDASHNAKOV CONTEMPORARY AS FUCK REAL WILD NU NU FIGURATION

>>6449904
PLS ASK DELVAUX FOR ME HOW SALTY OR ASPARAGUSY MAGRITTES CUM IS TASTING

>>6449890
YEA PROBABLY CEPT HE JUST KILLED HIMSELF WHICH DOESN'T STRIKE ME AS VERY RUSSIAN AS THEY USUALLY DRINK THEMSELVES TO DEATH OR LIVE TIL 90 IN A PERMANENT STATE OF AMUSED FATALISM IF MY MEMORY SERVES

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>>6449784
>reading is hard, i just wanna look at pictures ;___;

>>6449914
wow rude

>monday morning

I'll post some of my favorites for ya, OP

>>6449779
Cezanne is my favorite, too

>>6449938
ART GAME IS HARD MY NIGGA GET HARD OR GET KNOB


OH SHIT A NU CONTEMPORARY CHALLENGER HAS A PPEARED YEP ITS MICHAEL KREBER PAINTING HIS PAINTINGS OUTSIDE OF PAINTING SO FUKIN IRONY FUK

>>6449983
YO YO YO ITS MOTHERFUCKING WALTER DE MARIA GETTING REAL WILD UP IN THIS BITCH WITH A FUCKIN MINIMAL-CONCEPTUAL BULLSHIT SLPPIN ON YER DICK PLUS HE WAS IN THE VELVET UNDERGROUND FOR A MINUTE

>>6449835
HOLY SHIT I CANT BELIEVE IVE FORGOTTEN DIETER ROTH WHO IS REAL WILD AND ONE OF THE TOP 3 ARTISTS OF LAST CENTURY LET ALONE LAST 50 YEARS THOUGH HE IS IN LAST 50 YEARS FUK!!!

>>6450010
OH HOLY SHIT NOTE THE FUCKIN TWOMBLY RESEMBLANCE THOUGH OF COURSE ROTH IS MUCH MORE VERSATILE

>>6449995
Is this about representing Germany post first world war, with all the impaired folk with crude fitting contraptions on them? The buildings also seem too clean, too empty of spirit, and a gentleman shows the science instruments and all.

>>6450020
weimar republic yes. the title was "artist studio" or something

>>6450019
OK LAST ONE UNLESS I GET SOME FUCKIN SUBSTANTIVE REPLIES IN THIS BITCH BUT YOU BEST BELIEVE ITS REAL WILD FRANZ WEST FUKIN U UP IN THIS MOTEHRFUCKER

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>>>/ic/

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Manet

>>6450060

Mantegna. This is maybe my favorite Italian Renaissance painting, which is weird because Mantegna is not one of my favorites.

>>6449835
O, God, anon :(

I'm so sorry but I'm afraid I arrived too late for you to see my post.

Anyway, there's a school of artists you should look for. The main one is Odd Nerdrum. Pic related

I still don't really love him, but I thing he's very good. I'm seeing a resurgence of figurative art, though, and I think in a few decades we shall have new Rembrandts, Cezanned and Chagalls walking on this Earth once again. :)

Long live real art. Down with conceptual crap.

>>6449913
I can't stop loving this one it's painfully beautiful can't get enough of Bernini, He was a master of the masters.

>>6450083
LOL. conceptualism is here to stay in any number of potential forms. Any further figurative representation is bound to the possibilities of the 'concept' if it is to retain any artistic merit.

Can someone explain something to me? I believe the reasoning behind resisting realistic fine art in favor of abstract art is to get political and claim the old shite is not just old but exploitative? As in, classic, realistic fine art is patrician and reeking of privilege?

But you still need a bunch of money and connections to get anywhere with abstract art. More importantly, you need a silver tongue to convince some ritchie rich people that they'll gain some status if they blow millions of dollars on YOUR basket of dirty laundry that you spent all of five minutes preparing for the auction house. Doesn't this mean that abstract art becomes a matter of hiring the best PR team with a fuckload of money and connections that you probably got your hands on through an astounding amount of nepotism and privilege? Am I missing something here?

>>6450105
Yes you are missing a great deal.
>getting political
is at the most an extremely tangential and incomplete 'justification' for a move towards abstraction. For a more complete understanding, look towards a factor like the shift in understanding of human perception towards a more 'holistic' stance (i.e. subjective experience of time and space/the dissolution of the discrete 'moment') from the more 'divine' and unitary position of traditional one-point perspective. Certainly politics is potentially relevant, but always in a secondary way. Obviously commodification is a factor that has and will continue to influence the trajectory of expression in general in the last centuries and into the future.

>>6450129
Alright, thanks for the info. Any recommended reading?

>>6450096
Go way and come back when you learn how to speak things that make any sense.

>>6450139
Honestly, most of my understanding of recent art history comes from philosophy and literature - I often find that from philosophy in particular, artistic stances can be meaningfully grounded or tested. This isn't to say that philosophy is 'superior' in some way, but there does seem to be a potent sort of interplay. Things like Nietzsche, Heidegger, Deleuze.. But as far as Art History - The book "Art Since 1900: Modernism, Antimodernism, Postmodernism" is a fairly comprehensive catalogue of recent trajectories, and no doubt a good start. If you pick it up though, just be aware that the authors have a very very strident critical stance and a lot of the editorializing they do is somewhat dubious. However if you get through this I would imagine you'd come out of it with the knowledge to being to pick apart their bullshit from their real.

>>6449889
This painting is a bit i don't know how to this but it seems a bit dangerous look at that man clothes similar to Ihram clothing right? unhealthy skinny lady, the veil !!! the anklets increase eroticism so it's buono :) but this orientalist painter wasn't innocent there's something happening here not just a mating moment

>>6450154
I made perfect sense. You're the one who has absolutely no response to my clearly stated claim and is resorting to childish bullshit nothing. Might venture to extrapolate that the quality of your response can be related to the quality of the initial claim against conceptualism. lol.

>>6450156
Sounds good. I don't think it will help me much in surviving /ic/ threads but I'll still enjoy the knowledge.

>>6449468
One more last post

>>6450105
> I believe the reasoning behind resisting realistic fine art in favor of abstract art is to get political and claim the old shite is not just old but exploitative?
Though, that's actually not it. The real question is why abstract art was not appreciated back then. What happends is whenever a new technique appear that takes over an older one, this older one has to rethink itself and its specific things. The most proeminent technique in question here is photography and its ability to reproduce the visible. This shifted painting into thinking its role and allowed painters to try to find what is unique about it. It started with impressionists, expressionists, then into fauvism, cubism, etc and of course, it goes towards the abstract a bit more.

There are other factors as well, these painters had a different role in society, much like museums had a different role and how people were intaking art in new ways and for new purposes. The images themselves are put into question, what do we want from these pictures? For them to fulfill our fantasies? For them to reinforce our ideology? What is it?

What you proceed to talk about is art market and honestly, in my personal opinion, it has always been full of shit. Money and recognition always only came through the same way. At a time, art was a craft and the studios and ateliers were more of large workshops producing new objects on demand of society. Museums and galleries are just one way to take art. Naturalistic stuff, abstract stuff, bad and good stuff alike, they get pushed just the same way, depending on what the speculators want to sell and profit at a given time.

If you want to know more, a good introduction to that transition is The Shock of The New by Robert Hughes. There is a six episode documentary on it as well and it's full on youtube. The same Robert Hughes did another documentary (not as good though, jesus, documentaries are much worse today...) recently about how the art market shifted during the 60s and 70s, also on youtube, search The Mona Lisa Curse.

>>6450105
No, you are not. That's precisely it.

The same Robert Hughes mentioned above also made a doc criticizing contemporary conceptual post-modern crap. Roger Scruton has one too.

Ignore all this conceptual crap, it isn't worth your time. It isn't worth anyone's time despite what pseudo-intellectuals like those in this thread want you to think.

>>6450281
I mentioned the documentary itself, it's the Mona Lisa Curse. Also, Hughes does not criticize "conceptual post-modern crap", but shows that the market is overshadowing the works of artists and raising bad stuff over good stuff without any critical thinking being involved there. He likes conceptual art as much as he likes a lot of other types of art, given that there are good and bad examples of each.

And Roger Scruton is an idiot.

And the anon was not talking about contemporary art or conceptual art or post-modern art, but abstract art, which have a huge load of variations, some conceptual, some far from it, some contemporary, some pretty old by now.

I'll post a few I enjoy, from various sources.

some hopper never hurt

hnnnnng

I love literature more than any other art form, but when I see paintings like these I do wonder if a book could paint such a simple feeling and expression so subtly and beautifully elegant

My favorite painting.

>>6449799
>femanon
is the trip a femanon?

love the atmosphere of this painting. It also goes along perfectly with Hemingway's short story A Clean, Well-Lighted Place, which I highly recommend.

>>6450371
oops.

i hope you know there was art outside of the 19th century

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>>6450160
Disgusting fucking weeaboo faggot. Get the fuck out with your perversion. Anime is not art.

frantisek kupka is great. interesting to see how different artists depict ancient civilization differently. The ziggurat looks absolutely beautiful and the soft blue and orange color tones are gorgeous.

>>6450386
fuck again

>>6450379

Debatable.

self portrait by kupka. Colors are amazing

Ivan the Terrible and his Son, by Ilya Repin.

>>6450391
what gets me is that despite all the wanking over the 19th c, people like manet and courbet never get posted

dilettantes for days

>>6450403
manet was posted, you mongrel

>>6450393
Kupka was a master

Duel between Onegin and Lensky, by Ilya Repin.

>>6449777
my favorite by kirchner. Street, Berlin.

>>6450083
Serge marshenikov

>>6450393
Holy shit this is amazing, haven't seen this before, ever

>mfw finding out this is in a museum in my city
Welp, I know what I'll be doing tomorrow.

limit reached

>>6450421
New thread
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>>6450406
by some fluke. not even a notable work by him? i'm talking about generally anyway. it always happens in these threads

maybe sometimes you'll see the origin of the world because of muh vagina but never the important works by these artists, even though art history books talk about them all the time

not even good monet shit is posted. no haystacks, water lillies or the rouen cathedral, which are his most important works

this fucking site i'm literally going to kill myself right now

>>6450428
you can participate at any time, but instead write this nonsense. calm down.

>>6450433
participating isn't the point - it's being aware enough of your own tastes to think "hey i'm noticing a lot of 19th c work here, i wonder if i'm doing it wrong"

do you babbies even take note of the date?

- posting as a ghost

>>6450444
what do you mean by doing it wrong? posting out of context? nobody even writes anything, people post fucking whatever, and maybe a lot of what goes on is pedestrian to its core. why don't you take it upon yourself to do anything about that?

I am confused, and also 2spooky4me

>>6450455
>what do you mean by doing it wrong?

viewing art in such a limited way. it has an amazingly rich history that just gets ignored in threads like this by posting 19th or like early modernism over and over again

>why don't you take it upon yourself to do anything about that?

that's what i'm doing by pointing it out. i'm not going to post select images because that isn't any better. i hope to get people to think twice about why they like art and do something about their own tastes, i.e. reading a book

>>6450428

Because everyone already knows and has seen the famous works. My fucking grandma knows about Monets lillies and haystacks.

Post an art general in /ic/, you cancerous fucking retard.

And judging by the poster number it's obviously only a group of you fucktards.

>inb4 cliche response waaaah they don't allow art threads

>/lit/ - Literature

>>6450072
Awful
Degenerate art.