/lit/ - Literature

>>6436576
>graphic novels
>>>/co/

Ice Haven

Has anyone here read Lost Girls
What'd you like about it?
Is it good?
Is it sexy?

The only good graphic novels were Egyptian hieroglyphics

i dont read no anime

>>6436576
Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron

>>6436576
Craig Thompson fan here :) his novels are awesome

>>6436576
:^)

Just discovered King City.
Fucking awesome.

>>6436589
It's interesting, and funny, but mostly pornographic.

>>6436620
>hieroglyphics
>graphic novels
fucking pleb

>>6436589
>Has anyone here read Lost Girls
yes

>What'd you like about it?
>Is it good?
>Is it sexy?
no

>>6437030
>nek

Jerusalem when, Alan?

Also is Voice of the Fire alright?

This shit right here.

I enjoyed Y The Last Man.

Loved the way it ended.

>>6437030
That's true in an important sense. But the pictorial system of carvings was also highly systematized. Also Aztec glyphs.

>>6437030

Heh, that book (GRAPHIC NOVEL) was fucking awesome.

>>6436859
Light novels are illustrated books, dude

Ghost World, David Boring, and Death Ray by Daniel Clowes.

>>6437511
That book isn't a "light novel"

>>6437526
It's been repackaged as one

>>6436576
Ive seen this in-store for a long time, flipped through the pages once years ago and it didn't catch my interest.
Whats it about? Worth my time?

>>6437532
It just has cute illustrations.

>>6437552
That's what makes it not a graphic novel

You're devaluing superheroes a bit too much. It may be a pain to have that specific format so often, but it attracts lots of writers, and some of them are pretty damn good.
hell, the Hernandezes, who try to push the idea that they're true originals with all the fetish stuff and wacky shit like Jerry Lewis becoming king of Mars, even THEY use the superhero form.

Taiyo Matsumoto's stuff is pretty damn good. Read Go-Go Monster. It's pretty affecting, has some relevant commentary for neets and extended adolescents, and it's also one of the few comics that has actually made me jump back in fear.
I don't get the fuss over Tekkonkinkreet though.

>>6436576
My personal favorite artist/writer

>>6437542
Craig Thompson's first big graphic novel was Blankets, an autobiographic story about growing up, falling in love, struggling with Christianity, etc.

After that he decided he wanted to attempt a similar thing with Islam. So he traveled around (as documented in Carnet De Voyage) and learned basic Islamic theology, Arabic calligraphy, etc. He uses that to write Habibi, a story of two people who escape slavery and try to survive in a somewhat fantastical Middle Eastern desert / city. Much of the text builds on scripture passages (including charting out divergences between Christian and Islamic narratives of the same stories), calligraphy, and theology. It's pretty neat, but the big thing with Craig Thompson is his art, so if you skim it and don't dig it, I can't guarantee you'll like reading the whole thing, but he does do some neat things.

(Pic is from Conversation #1 with James Kochalka.)

>>6436789

Seconded.

Any serious work by Nobuyuki Fukumoto. I recommend starting with Buraiden Gai as it's very short.

Once you are patrician enough to be able to into Japanese mahjong, and you've seen/read Akagi, you can tackle Ten: The Nice Guy on the Path of Tenhou and witness one of the most amazing things ever written with the conclusion of the last 4 volumes.

My favourite writing-wise would be Moore's "From Hell". It has all kinds of great subtext and structures, that it creates by utilizing its medium.

My favourite visually would be Arkham Asylum. Yeah, it is Batman, but it really isn't much of a typical "beat the bad guy" capeshit. And no, it has nothing to do with the mediocre video game.

Swamp Thing

Alan Moore's run.

>>6436576

>>6436576
peter milligan's 'enigma'

>>6437611
>>6438200
and these

>>6436589
It has it's sexy moments , but nothing to jack off to, though the tone is really pornographic.

David B., epileptic.

Very bizarre, but beautifully drawn.

>>6438274
Milligan's fascinating, and he can even write characters like the riddler quite well. I wish he wrote scripts actually.

>>6436576

God tier only? Then Transmetropolitan must be listed.
Amazing dialogue

>>6438507
Pic

>>6438564
kek

What's the graphic equivalent of The Recognitions, Women and Men, Mason & Dixon? I want the ambitious stuff

I made this pic a while ago.

>>6437600
Number 5 is his masterpiece.
Tekkonkinkreet was great, but overhyped due to the animation movie.

>>6436576
I used to have Habibi and then I lent it to some fuckwit who tore the cover and said he was gonna buy me a new one (he didnt). So I kept one of his graphic novels instead

>>6438683
What did you keep?

>>6438683
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_Glass_%28comics%29

Its pretty cool actually

>>6438725
Woops this was meant for >>6438719

>>6437279
It's funny how Vaughan is hailed as a spokes person for Tumblr because of Saga (which is a lot deeper than tumblr could ever hope to be) when he wrote a series about why a feminist paradise is a horrible thing.

>>6438564
Mah nigga.

Sandman

>>6436576
>check this out
>20 pages in it has loli rape
Thanks OP

out of all the graphic novels I've read i would have to say Maus is probably my favourite and also probably the most /lit/. but I'm really obsessed with Jim Woodring, to me his art and story telling combined create perfect little creations, all without the use of words. Daniel Clowes is also pretty sweet, I like his eight ball stuff more than his later stuff.

I've only read Watchmen and Bone. I want to read Bone again, but a friend of mine recommended transmetro to me

Moebius

>>6438663
Awesome pic.
I would add Mattotti and Schuitten & Peters to the list.
American comcis are so lame compared to these.

Moebius. His work with Alejandro is also pretty good.

>>6438663
>Tekkonkinkreet

This was overhyped long before the movie came out

>>6438663

Jodorowsky deserves his own spot on there. One of the few writers who pulls the best out of artists he works with. Tanino Liberatore? Conquering Armies? Really? I appreciate the Metal Hurlant faithfulness, but come on.

Obscure Cities needs to be on there.

>>6436584
/co/ is for comics. "Graphic novels" were an attempt to introduce the bandes dessinees into th anglophone world. It didn't sit too well with all the anglos and came to describe a "single shot" comic book IIRC. In the mean time the French stopped reading the BDs as well. They got replaced with translated mangas.
It's too bad I do not have my cbr collection HDD hooked up.
>>6439042
stock reply but a decent stock reply. I'd say all authors featured in the 1970s metal hurlant". It's a shame they had to close. The idea was great: have your local Miura paint whatever he wants to paint

>>6439247
Nah, "graphic novel" was historically invented to make comics sound like they could be sellable to adults.

And the French still read BDs, they just don't get into them as young anymore, only get out of manga as late teens/early adults.

>>6439199
I only did the image with European artists, yet that's for sure Giménez deserves his place on the top. (I must admit that I didn't read everything that's on the list and tried to make the lines coherent)

>>6439145
I'm ok for Mattotti, but Peeters is already there ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xTe7212GQc&list=PL3E0D7C8035D926C7
If people like the 70s artists from Metal Hurlant and even others, this TV show was the shit.

>>6439294
>Nah, "graphic novel" was historically invented to make comics sound like they could be sellable to adults.
Well, yes: BDs. And it came to describe (albeit less cliché laden) single shot comic books for children along with a couple of heavily "artsy" ones from such artsy places like New York. It is similar to how the early "serious" BDs were done to please the choicy critics back in the 1950s/1960s France. Basicly French comic books had to prove what they're worth at that time. If there was a sex scene it was a fucking Egon Schiele painting retraced; they tried to get established authors to write the plot or they paid tribute to some classic piece of literature. They had to prove their "cultural value" a lot until it became a medium war veterans, for instance, could describe their memories with. But now the French preferent webcomics and mangas just like everyone else. Sure, their romance with BDs did alter their TASTE but pure BDs are nowadays just something for the MILFs and for their lovers. Just look into any online forum and you'll see what I mean.

>>6436576
Craig Thompson is fucking shit m8
The most overrated comic writer by far.
A lot of super hero stuff is legitimately better than him, like Astro City, X-Statix, Moore Swamp Thing, Morrison Animal Man, etc.

>>6438061
Saikyou Densetsu Kurosawa is my favorite manga of his, and my favorite manga in general. It's so well-written, funny and tragic at the same time, with some philosophy weaved into it. I have no problem considering it equal with some of the classics of literature that I have read.

>>6439329
Thank you for this video/show!
(It's actually another Peteers, the writer of Les Cités Obscures illustated by Schuitten)