/lit/ - Literature

>>6416147

What kind of artwork is that?

>>6416147

Don't die on me now...

I'll bump your thread because I want recommendations

>>6416147
I'm not reading it but I want to read abelard and heloise's letters. is that medievalism what is medievalism i dont knw

Boethius' Consolation of Philosophy

about to read "visions of the end" by bernard mcginn, a history of apocalyptic writings in middle ages. supposed to be seminal or some shit but i dont study it, just became interested in the apocalyptic stuff.

>>6416147
I'm going to bump this thread, looking for similar books.
I will probably read God's Philosophers sometime. And looking for intro to alchemy books.

Also looking for reccommendations for any good non-fiction about medieval thinking (philosophy, science, social sciences etc.)
E.g. I enjoyed Foucault's Discipline and Punish, where he talks about how torturing fit in the whole judicial system or Feyerabend's work on how medieval art depicted their thought.

>>6416596
That sound pretty interesting.

>>6416147
I've currently reading through Gottfried's Tristan. I also checked a book out from the library called The Tomb of Beowulf, which is a collection of essays on Old English by Fred Robinson. If I ever get caught up on school work I'll dive into that.

>>6416175
Digital Arts

>>6416147
bumping for interest

>>6416658

medievalists are asleep methink, but give it time OP

Gottfried's Tristan

>>6416669
also, Erasmus' De Copia

Has anyone here read Averroes or Avicenna or Ghazali? Where should I start with them?

>>6416677
start with Aristote
Ghazali can't into Averroes

>>6416713
Have you read any of their commentaries on Aristotle's works? I'm eyeing a copy of Averroes' On the categories

>>6416559
scruffy seconds this

>>6416677
Dude, al-Hacen and Avicenna's where it's at

>>6416175

It's a digitally colourised image of the Flammarion woodcut.

>>6416722
They both (Averroes-Avicenna) explained Aristotle's organon and make it easy for the average reader

>>6416783

Thanks!

can /lit/ solve the snail riddle?

http://britishlibrary.typepad.co.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2013/09/knight-v-snail.html

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>>6416147
>Also, does anyone wish to suggest an entry level reading list for those interested in Medieval literature but not sure where to start?

The Discarded Image better be on there

>>6416147
>The Wasp Factory
>Nothing really, maybe some Lovecraft
>Recommend Count Zero
>Watchmen. Lotta good shit in there and I get something new out of it with every read.
>Computer science

>>6416147
Bumping for interest.

>>6417312

make one m8

>>6417434

I guess I'll start the recommended list, feel free to add on more:

>The Decameron
>Canterbury Tales
>Abelard and Heloise
>Gregory of Tours, History of the Franks
>Paul the Deacon, History of the Lombards

I'll try to think of some more....

>>6417465
To add to this...

Beowulf
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
The Lais of Marie de France
Le Morte d'Arthur
Tain Bo Culainge
Nibelungenlied
Piers Plowman

>>6416677

Ghazali is cool because he opens up the kind of skepticism about causation that most people don't think really showed up until Hume.

And Averroes' book " the incoherence of the incoherence" responds directly to Al-Ghazali's " the incoherence of the philosophers", and is one of the most legendary debates in Philosophy, rivaling Leibniz' " New essays on human understanding" where he goes chapter by chapter against Locke. Really great stuff. Avicenna is no slouch either.

I've just currently written on Divine Prescience and Human Freedom, based off of sections from Scotus' "Ordinatio" and Boethius' "Consolation of Philosophy", with some modern stuff from the metaphysics of time. I also did another paper on the Cosmological argument in Aquinas as it can be related to modern questions of physical ontology.

Next up I have to do some finals, but I'm going to starting on Scotus' "De Primo Principio" soon.

I really want to read Wolfram Von Eschenbach's Parsifal again, it was great.

Thinking of studying for a minor in Medieval Studies at my uni.

Any advice?

>>6417864
>Piers Plowman

based

>>6417900

Talk to the professors who specialize in it first. Make sure they went to good catholic schools and learned latin.

Anyone here read The song of Roland? If so, how was it?

>What are you reading
650 articles and books in a row + two chronicles in an overnighter until 10AM tomorrow so I can cram them into a 30 page paper by the 19th and still have time to pass an exam on the 20th
>Backlog?
HAHAHAAHHA
>Recommendations
KILL ME
>Favorite book
I HATE BOOKS
>Was this your field of study in university?
FUDHGJD

The current stack-in-progress (my secondary field). Right now I'm reading Three Middle English Charlemagne Romances: The Sultan of Babylon, the Siege of Milan, and the Tale of Ralph the Collier (which I don't think made it into the pic). Lots of favourites, but aside from olf classics (Marie de France, Orfeo, Pearl-poet), Christine de Pizan is my latest cool discovery.

For beginners, I'd start with a good Norton, Broadview, etc., anthology. Lots of useful context and glosses to orient one, and excerpts from many longer works so you can figure out which full texts you want to try after.

>>6418126

Question, how come you have so many Canterbury Tales / Chaucer books? Are they different translations or annotations or something?

>>6418132
I teach, and the publisher sent me both versions (the blue one has the whole Ellesmere manuscript, the red just has a selection for classes that aren't completely devoted to Chaucer). The Riverside is irreplaceable, and I've had it since I was an undergrad. The others are intros, context, short bio--lecture material assistance to supplement the more academic articles. Publishers are nice to you when you haven't decided which texts to adopt yet.

>What are you reading
I'm writing a senior thesis so a ton of secondary literature, but as far as primary literature goes I'm using Geoffroy de Villehardouin's chronicle of the 4th crusade. It reads a lot better in French than it does in English. One very good book I picked up for cheap not particularly relevant to my work is Philippe Contamine's "War in the Middle Ages." He gives a lot of useful information that most books don't pick up on and utilizes some neglected sources.

>Backlog
I picked up the Canterbury Tales a while ago but haven't read much of it yet. I'm annoyed by how huge the Penguin edition is and wish I'd bought the Norton edition. I also just ordered a bilingual Old French/Modern French version of the Song of Roland. Also I've been planning to read this new book "The Byzantine Republic" by Anthony Kadellis, which is arguing for a less autocratic view of early-mid Byzantine history.

>Recommendations
There's a brand new book on Medieval Christianity by Kevin Madigan that's a great introduction to the subject with up-to-date information and interpretations. There's also "A People's History of the Hundred years War" which is very interesting.

>What is your field of study
History/Classics double major. In hindsight I wish I had done something more economical, but there's no going back so I'm making the most of what I have. We'll see where it takes me.

>>6418176
Other person here. You seem like a legitimately interesting person. Thanks for your posts.

>mfw I leave my post here for the night, and no replies in the morning
( >>6416640 )

Thanks for these though:
>>6417896
>>6416596

>>6419311

Give it time

>>6417896

going to pick those up, thanks anon

How should I approach the Decameron? What history books or texts should I read with it / before it?

>>6421070
Anything on Italian politics/society/culture of 14th-century Italy (esp. Florence). Dante and Petrarch are useful, too, but none of that is necessary beforehand. Read the stories, and perhaps The Black Death: The Impact of the Fourteenth-Century Plague. ed. Williman, Daniel. Binghamton: Medieval & Early Renaissance Studies (SUNY Binghamton), 1982., especially Bernardo Aldo's “The Plague as Key to Meaning in Boccaccio’s “Decameron'." As with Chaucer, though, you can certainly read the texts first on their own and study contextual material before the following reads.

>>6421221

Thanks m8

>>6416640
It's older, highly biased and controversial, but I really recommend C.S. Lewis's The Discarded Image. It's a brilliant vision of the medieval mind.

>>6421298
Thanks a lot, it looks very interesting.

>>6421298

Always liked CS lewis

Books I've been reading/ read recently:

The war of roses
Joan of arc her story
The idylls of the king
The history of the kings of Britain
The faery queen
The Arthurian romances
The Lancelot-Grail cycle reader
Perzival
The bible
The once and future king

Things I'm interested in in the same vein (if there's any recommendations I'll take them):

Charlemagne
The Norman invasion
The history of the Picts
The crusades/holy wars
The hundred year war
Pre Christian England

>>6421298
>Preß

>>6417465
Froissart's Chronicles

Right now I'm reading A Game of Thrones by George R R Martin.

>>6422110
No idea what you're trying to say. Try speaking English rather than memes if you have anything to contribute.

>>6422364
I believe he is merely drawing attention to a rare and unusual use of the eszett in English

Did Duns Scotus really write anything of note beyond his commentary on Peter Lombard's Sentences?

>>6422110

/lit/ - literature

>>6422405

" On the Fittingness Of The Immaculate Conception" "Ordinatio" and "De Primo Principio" are all of note. He is a difficult philosopher from a somewhat obscure period, and he never really had that a huge revival like Aquinas did in the 19th century. Still, very great and important work. Interestingly enough it is claimed that he may actually be the originator of possible world semantics.

Bumping

>What are you reading
Buzz Aldrin, What Happened to You in All the Confusion? - Johan Harstad
Short: An International Anthology of Five Centuries of Short-Short Stories, Prose Poems, Brief Essays, and Other Short Prose Forms - Alan Ziegler

>Backlog?
Crowdsourcing - Daren C. Brabham
Reigns of Terror - Patricia Marchak
Life and Fate - Vasily Grossman
The Crying of Lot 49 - Thomas Pynchon
Moby Dick - Herman Melville

>Recommendations
That Johan Harstad book is pretty damn good. Also recommending:
The Day of the Locust - Nathanael West
Memories of the Future - Sigizmund Krzhizhanovsky
The Divine Comedy by Dante - Translated by Allen Mandelbaum
The Art and Craft of Approaching Your Head of Department to Submit A Request for A Raise - Georges Perec

>Favorite book
Life: A User's Manual - Georges Perec

>Was this your field of study in university?
English literature was, yes. Specifically Post-WWII American apocalyptic fiction, horror fiction, and the OuLiPo experimental literature movement