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What is the best Spanish translation of The Republic?

>> No.6341631

Why not just learn Greek?

>> No.6341662

>>6341631
how hard can it be?

>> No.6341669

La rebelion de las masas - Ortega y Gasset

>> No.6341676

>>6341631
yeah WHY NOT JUST LEARN ANCIENT FUCKING GREEK GUYS

IT'S PERFECTLY REASONABLE TO LEARN AN EXTINCT FUCKING LANGUAGE SO YOU CAN READ ONE FUCKING BOOK

>> No.6341684

>>6341676
yeah why not?

>> No.6341698

>>6341684
because even if you invest the years of study your understanding will probably lack in comparison to whoever already translated it to your native language. because you will not need the language before, or after reading that book. because it's a DEAD LANGUAGE. because i'm not a fucking elitist who needs to isolate himself and learn ancient tongues so he can feel he's got those 2% more out of his patrish hattipper's lit that he might otherwise have missed

i know you're in all likelihood baiting but god damn

>> No.6341702
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6341702

Wh-where's Stirner

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>> No.6341719

>>6341702
With Rand in Hell.

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>>6341698

oh no anon, don't be reasonable, you have to be didactic and arrogant to fit in around here

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>>6341586
fuck, i've seen this pic dozens of times but only now do i notice this

>> No.6341783

>>6341702
Stirner is the end game

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6342027

Is necessary to read The Iliad and The Odyssey to study the philosophy of the Greeks?

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>>6341769
Both Plato and Aristotle in Raphael's painting are supposed to look like other people. If i'm not mistaken Plato actually looks like Da Vinci.

You can see how much he is different from the traditional bust.

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>>6342027
>a guide to /starting/ with the Greeks

>the fucking complete works of Aristotle
>the complete presocratics
>no introduction to the Ancient Greek zeitgeist
>Sophocles is the only dramatist who made the cut
>that cutting-edge Cambridge Companion
>The complete works of Aristotle

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Who /pleb 'n proud/ here?

>> No.6342147

>hay tres traducciones recomendables: la de J. M. PABÓN y M. FERNÁNDEZ GALIANO, con texto griego, tres tomos, Madrid, Instituto de Estudios Políticos, 1949; la de A. Gómez Robledo, bilingüe, México, Universidad Nacional Autónoma, 1971; y Ia de A. CAMARERO, Buenos Aires, Eudeba, 1963

>Para más datos, la "Nota sobre las traducciones de Platón al español", de Juan Adolfo Vázquez, que figura como apéndice al libro de P.-M.Schuhl La obra de Platón, trad. esp., Buenos Aires, Hachette, 1956. En general, es preferible recurrir a traducciones a otras lenguas; en inglés, por ejemplo,las hay excelentes (como, v. gr., The Republic of Plato, trans. with introd. and notes by F.Mc. Cornford, Oxford, At the Clarendon Press, 1941

De la nota bibliografica del libro de Carpio. Yo leí la de Garcia Bacca y el aparato critico es muy bueno, de las notas en los tomos despejé muchas confusiones que salieron en lit/ causadas por leer traducciones. Ahora no anda el unico archivo serio, si no te mostraria con links. Los libros son carisimos y dificiles de conseguir, los pdf estaban en internet pero desaparecieron de golpe. No te los doy porque borré sin querer mi carpeta de filosofia en la computadora hace mas de dos años y todavia no los consigo de nuevo

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>>6341586
>>6342088

>NO AYN RAND, NOR JOSÉ VASCONCELOS.

>> No.6342153

>>6342088
>not loving Diogenes
>in 2015

fuckin' pleb

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>>6342151
threadly reminder.

>> No.6342178

>>6342086
the works of aristotle is a single book, calm the fuck down

>> No.6342210

>>6342157
did he write that when he was a teenager? jesus, didnt realise he was such a tard

>> No.6342538

>>6342147
Se agradece al fin una respuesta relacionada con el tema.
El asunto es que he estado echando un vistazo en los catálogos de un par de bibliotecas cercanas y le edición más común es la de Austral/Espasa, con traducción de Patricio de Azcárate, que no sé qué tal estará. Es también la más barata (unos 10 euros) de las que hay en las librerías.
Sin embargo, siempre podría intentar buscar más traducciones en las bibliotecas de la facultad de filosofía de mi universidad; de ahí que me interese la opinión sobre las diferentes traducciones.
Pregunto por aquí más que nada por comodidad, y porque los foros de literatura en español que conozco son muy malos y dudo mucho que haya interés por la filosofía por alli.
Me apunto la de García Bacca por si la encuentro.

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smignfffs

>> No.6342548

>>6342157
KEK
E
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>> No.6344429

>>6341769
Lol I always wondered if aristotle was doing some cool move with his hand or something.

>> No.6344435

>>6341676
>>6341698
I know you think you're right but fuck off

>> No.6344443

>>6342157
doing god's work