/lit/ - Literature

>>6238330
>not including the greatest revolutionary of the twentieth century

>>6238353
not enough theory

I vote against all of them.

>>6238330
I wonder how many of the people listed are kikes.

>>6238330
>adorno and lefebvre in the same category

fuck this is too hard

Deleuze wins, calling it

>>6238560
Democratic socialists of american is championing the contest- so i think you'll get a whole lot of college hipsters voting Guvera and Trotsky.

>>6238598
I wondered who the Democratic socialists of america where and fucking hell the state of these cunts

>The DSA's ideas are greatly influenced by those of writer Michael Harrington, Chairman of the League for Industrial Democracy (1964) and member of the National Executive Board of the Socialist Party of America (1960–68). Opposed to capitalism and communism alike as cruel and anti-libertarian social systems, Harrington advocated working for a realignment of the U.S. Democratic Party away from an amorphous amalgam of often contradictory ideas and toward a principled party of the left.
>I share an immediate program with liberals in this country because the best liberalism leads toward socialism
>there are lessons to be learned from "the comprehensive welfare state maintained by the Swedes, from Canada’s national health care system, France’s nationwide childcare program
>The "tremendous prosperity and relative economic equality" established by the Social Democratic Parties of the countries of Scandinavia and Western Europe are lauded
>In 2004, the organization backed John Kerry

Fuck there's some hard ones in the first round.

Hobsbawm and Che? Dammit. . . I love Hobsbawm's scholarly work more, but on the grounds of the 11th thesis, I'd have to go with Che.

It's sad that Zizek is out in the first round. . . Lukacs too. . .

>>6238929
>http://marx-madness.com/?p=6

Benjamin and CLR James in the first round? They are both sweet sixteeners at least. I voted for Leclau, because, well, Stalin. . . But he doesn't really deserve to make it past the first round. Henri Lefebvre out in the first too :(.

>>6238560
Deleuze 'should' win but most likely won't

>>6238330
fuck Marxism, but I was thinking about such a grand prix graph for a book selection

adorno only answer

>>6238953

Nah, he should be out in the second round.

>>6238949
>I voted for Leclau, because, well, Stalin. . .

>>6238974

>rootless cosmopolitanism is a bad thing

ok Hosef

I've read so few of these people, feeling legit stupid when voting

>>6238986
Yeah I only ended up voting 10 out of the 30 or so.

So /lit/, did you vote Zizek or did you vote for that post-colonialist hack.

>>6238330
who gives a shit about this i d rather smoke and sex

Zizek will win but my heart is with muh boy Mao Mao

>>6239009

Wot? Zizek is entertaining, and often his off-the-cuff remarks ring quite true, but Spivak is theoretically invaluable.

Enjoy your symptom I suppose (meme-fetishizing).

>>6238430
I wonder how many of the people in this thread are poltards.

>>6238761
Post-revisionist scum

>>6238353
lol hoxhaists still exist. are you from fuckin Revleft

>>6238330
lenin

>>6238330
I don't fucking know who half these people are.

I've just been chosing the people I'm most familiar with.

Lenin / Zizek / Adorno are my guesses.

I don't know why Huey Newton is included. He may be a revolutionary and has fought for black people but I don't recall that he made any contribution to marxist theory.

I'm all for Team France
Deleuze
Guattari
Alain Badiou
(Althusser) i don't where he is from but i like him.

>>6238330
How do I vote?

>>6240057
...forget that, I'm an idiot.

>>6238330
I predict a win for Gramsci.

>Bukharin versus Horkheimer
pro-NEP, pro-market, pro-pluralism Bolshevik who lost against Stalin versus some third rate left-leaning post-war German elitist philosopher
- and the latter will most likely win because on tumblr everybody heard about Hork ("isn't that, like, the second name of Adorno TV?") and Bukharin is only for history buffs. Guise, please do look up each of the people concerned before you vote.

>>6239329
He will never win against Bakhtin. Not after the link has been posted on /lit/.

>>6240109
Too late sorry bud.
i stopped guessing a quarter to halfway through but was too lazy to go back and fix it.
will do next time though

>>6240109
>Bukharin

A revisionist who worked desperately for capitalist restoration and a tireless defender of the kulaks, I'm not a fan of Horkheimer but I'll take him over Bukharin any day.

>all these western revisionists

No wonder there will never be a unified left

>no Ho Chi Minh
>no Dimitrov
>no Kim Ill Sun
>no Molotov
>no Deng
>no Hoxha
>no Zhou Enlai
>no Fidel
>Fuck loads of frankfurt school shite

you can tell this was made by americans

>>6241154
I sure do love me some Deng "special chinese state capitalism that reverses most of the gains made for the peasants" xiaoping

>>6241154
I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't even realize Fidel had his own theories, I always thought Cuba's economy was just a command economy that made cigars or some shit.

>>6241154
Putting Hoxha in that competition would be like putting the 1970 Brazil side into the MLS. Game over, good comrade.

>>6241174

>no Hal Draper
>no George Breitman
>no Mother Jones
>no Kim Il Sung
>no Jason Unruhe

;-;

>>6241227
Criticize the old world and build a new world with Jason Unruhe Thought as a weapon

>>6241194
I don't think that's particularly relevant when he ended state provided housing, and allowed peasants to be tricked into selling their collective farms for way less than they were worth to capitalists. His actions essentially allowed Capitalists free reign within his country so long as they supported the CCP.

If Chairman Mao was still around every high ranking member of the CCP would be executed as counter-revolutionaries.

is the reason why marx isn't included is because he would win

>no anarchists
I vote for none

>>6241256
Hell no, do you think these revisionists would actually support him?

> Bakhtin v Lenin
the difficulty!

>>6241265
> Deleuze
> Guattari
> Not anarchists
this is explicit in anti-oedipus and a thousand plateaus

>>6241268
Marx isn't infallible. By "revisionists" I hope you mean all these state-capitalists, social democrats, reformists, and Trotskyists. Other than that, it's all a development of theory.

>>6241293
no, of course not. but in terms of impact, contribution?

no one comes close. no one

>>6241293
I'm happy to see we have the same definition of revisionists.

>>6241301
True! But a Marxist-Leninist is more in line with Marxism than say, a Trotskyist or a Deng-supporter. I'm not an orthodox Marxist, but I wouldn't consider myself a revisionist either.

>>6241278

This one isn't difficult. It just seems difficult. As much as I like Bakhtin, Lenin is a better embodiment of the 11th Thesis on Fueuerbach.

>>6241317
these tendencies and tributaries of marxist thought are ultimately meaningless

>>6241380
All that matters is that the police state is too advanced, and the political system is rigged so there will never be any kind of Marxist rise to power in a developed country.

>>6241154
>cold war era leaders and MLs
>babby's first marxism

>>6241265
anarchists are rather contributing to anarchism or communist theory in general than in marxism specifically.

>>6241472
Zizek Lenin Stalin, Guevara and more are all memes so they will probably win

>>6241511
didn't mean to link btw

What criteria do we vote by?
Most important?
Most beneficial?

Because Papa Stalin is really sitting on the edge here.

>>6241537
I assume it is whoever you agree with more, or if you dislike the choices which ever one you less vehemently resent.

Can Marxism and Technocracy be reconciled?

>>6241154
RevLeft pls go

>>6241466
>cold war era leaders and MLs
>not the only worthwhile Marxists

>>6241727
Maoist Rebel pls go

i used to be a moderator on revleft a few years ago until i was banned for my opinions

AMA

>>6241537
>What criteria do we vote by?
Butthurt potential, Stalin winning might cause some serious whining among those fags.

>>6241712
Your question really makes no sense bro, not even trying to be a dick here

>>6241766
which opinions got you banned?

>>6241766
RevLeft types are the cancer of the Left. White kids with red berets and combat jackets talking about Mao and Malcolm X.

>>6238330
>gyorgy lukasc

reminds me of the German late night show host who used to shit on star wars from time to time:
"I don't give a shit about Star Wars, I never watched a George Lucas movie, I only read his books about communism."
>nobody laughs
>he grins into the camera
>next topic

a shame he isnt on tv anymore, he was based as fuck. also this one time he did his show completely in french without subtitles, just to fuck with people.

It's a shame that all of the powerful countries that have claimed to be Marxist, have all been hardcore imperialists.

Especially since massively relocating members of the ethnically dominant group into territories set aside for minority nationalities seems to contradict the Lenin's view of nationalities.

>no Harpal Brar

>>6241804
gyorgy lukacs is fucking based, I hope he makes him until 8th at least