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Daily reminder that if you aren't published by the age of 25 (twenty-five) you will NEVER be patrician and your work will NEVER be canon.

>> No.6201506

>DFW was 24 when Broom of the System was published
>Zadie Smith was 25 when White Teeth was published
>Marek Hlasko was 23 when Eighth Day of the Week was published
>F.S. Fitzgerald was 23 when This Side of Paradise was published
>Carson McCullers was 23 when The Heart is a Lonely Hunter was published
>Tao Lin was 24 when EEEEE EEE EEEE & Bed were published
>Italo Calvino was 23 when The Path to the Nest of the Spiders was published
>Kerouac was 20 when The Sea is My Brother was published
>Goethe was 25 when The Sorrows of Young Werther was published
>Musil was 25 when The Confusions of Young Torless was published
>Hemingway was 25 when In Our Time was published
>Tatsuhiko Takimoto was 24 when Welcome to the NHK was published
>Ryu Murakami was 24 when Almost Transparent Blue was published
>Garcia Marquez was 20 when Eyes of a Blue Dog was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Napoleon III as a President" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when "Fate and History" was published
>Nietzsche was 18 when Free Will and Fate was published
>Nietzsche was 19 when "Can the Envious Ever Truly Be Happy?" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "On Tendencies" was published
>Nietzsche was 20 when "My Life" was published
>Saramago was 25 years old when Land of Sun was published
>Dickens was 24 when Sketches by Boz was published
>Dickens was 25 when The Pickwick Papers was published
>Huxley was 25 when Limbo was published
>James Joyce was 25 when Chamber Music was published
>Proust was 25 when Pleasures and Days was published
>Mishima was 23 when Confessions of a Mask was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 21 when Less Than Zero was published
>Bret Easton Ellis was 23 when Rules of Attraction was published
>Kenzaburō Ōe was 23 when Nip the Buds, Shoot the Kids was published
>Emile Zola was 24 when Contes à Ninon was published
>Balzac was 20 when Cromwell was published
>Baudelaire was 24 when Salon of 1845 was published

>> No.6201519

Daily reminder that only you are setting these limits on yourself. Canon is just a spook

>> No.6201523

>>6201519
Sales numbers aren't a spook, however. Enjoy being rejected for being too old and "unsaleable"

>> No.6201525
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>>6201506
All terrible authors.

>> No.6201529

>Zadie Smith
>Tao Lin
>canon
You just blew your credibility dude.

>> No.6201533

>>6201506
> Marx was 50 when Den Kapital was first published

>> No.6201535

>>6201523
rejected by who? spooks? How would I benefit from these sale numbers?

>> No.6201537

>>6201529
as much as i actually love tao lin's stuff i have to agree that it makes no sense to consider someone canon who has only been published for a decade or so

>> No.6201541

>>6201537
>lowercase 'I'

Why do you tryhards do this?

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>>6201506

>listing Tao Lin and chinese porn-comic artists

>> No.6201545

>>6201535
chicks, fame, money, influence and by extension the power to change things in the world rather than the whole thing just being a dialogue between you and your diary. more artistic freedom next time you publish anything because the publisher now has some trust in you. personal fulfillment.

>>6201541
i don't know it's just my 4chan mode typing. lowercase everything. feels more informal

>> No.6201565

>Colin Wilson was 24 when The Outsider was published

>> No.6201567

>>6201498
You don't have shit to say before age 25 anyway.

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>>6201567

"But I had a lot to say, anon! I talked about sex and drugs and ultraviolence and partying and being gay and disillusionment with the 80s and 90z zeitgeist and consumerism and also I'm both straight and bi also I'm gay but wait I'm actually just gay nope I'm straight haha x)"

>> No.6201603

Daily reminder that literature is dying

>> No.6201608

>>6201567
How's it feel knowing you're a pleb?

>>6201572
So, so bitter.

>> No.6201690

>>6201498
Wallace Stevens published much later than that and his first volume is widely admired as some of the finest and most original poetry America has produced.

>> No.6201696

>>6201690
He published his first poems as an undergrad.

>> No.6201710

>>6201696

If you consider poems here and there in little magazines "publication" that's fine. I don't, really. It's very easy to get a poem published here or there, especially if you're not too picky about who you appear with. A book is a project. Somebody has to care enough to put real money down.

Emily Dickinson never published.

Just FYI I'm already in print in a good magazine, I have no stake in this personally. I just think it's fucking stupid. People have the mental faculties required to produce something interesting into mid-life.

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>>6201710

laughably bad shit

>> No.6201840

>>6201826
Every good poet has written lots of laughably bad shit. It doesn't get selected or anthologized so nobody reads it.

Just read Harmonium, or a selected, and some Vendler criticism, if you want to see why people admire Stevens' work.

>> No.6201875

>>6201498
This is the reigning champ for /lit/bait

>> No.6201898

>>6201826
actually this rules

>> No.6201902

>>6201826
have you read Stevens? that's the level of most of his poetry

>> No.6201906

>>6201826
>he cant into modernism
>he probably pretended to read the waste land and Ulysses as well