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The entire battle of Stalingrad
>you will never be among the last of your dwindling german comrades fighting against all hope against bolshevik hordes

I would hate to be one of those 2 casualties.

The last Roman Emperor's final stand in the last siege of Constantinople.
Imagine standing there, the whole history of the Roman Empire behind you, facing thousands of Muslims climbing through holes the Sultan just blasted in the walls, knowing that the old age of the ancient world ends where and when you stand...

>>6163620

damn I guess that's back when the scots had gonads, I guess they traded them with ireland for food

>>6163559
>le burning of the Library of Alexandria
>le set back centuries technologica
Protip: it was never burnt.

>>6163638
No need to be butthurt man.

This is a thread for civil discussion.

>>6163559

Battle of Chancellorsville.

The South will rise again bruhdder!

The Great Siege of Malta. The Knights Hospitaller holding the line for Christendom in the face of the invading hordes of the Ottomans. What could be better than to face certain death and triumph, all in God's name?

>>6163657
Not facing death, God's name or not?

>>6163559
Hegel finishing Phenomenology of Spirit a day before Prussia is made into a French client, remarking the movement of revolution from France to Germany.

Carl von Clausewitz, perhaps inspired by Hegel, turning the tide of Napoleonic wars by defiling the authority of his King by seizing the authority of Prussian armies and backstabbing Napoleon, triggering the beginning of German revolution proclaimed some eight years earlier, culminating in Germans destroying the Grand Army in Battle of Nations.

It's a three way tie between when Athens just showed up at melos and told them to surrender or be annihilated.

When Napoleon escaped Elba and was met with a detachment of French troops that were supposed to capture him but instead he uttered something equivalent to "would you really shoot your emperor?" And turned the entire group to his side.

Finally, the entire franco-prussian war when the French were defeated so badly that there was a revolt in Paris that lead to the infamous Paris commune in which the remainder of the French army had to siege the capital.

>>6163804
>When Napoleon escaped Elba and was met with a detachment of French troops that were supposed to capture him but instead he uttered something equivalent to "would you really shoot your emperor?" And turned the entire group to his side.

He not only said that, he actually got off his horse and presented his unarmored body to them.

Napoleon's life is better than any fucking movie.

Any major battles in WW2:
>Okinawa
>D-day
>battle of Berlin


>>6163605
This

>>6163804
>told them to surrender or be annihilated.

Wait, what now? Surrender what, they were neutral, and they were annihilated because they were neutral. Why is that amongst your favorites?

When the Greeks stealth infiltrated Troy with the wooden horse and opened the gates before taking over the city.

It blows my mind that they actually succeeded with that strategy.

>>6163884
>history

0/10 - try again

>>6163884
I'm sure the Greels then were just as surprised as you are today. They probably assumed they were on a suicide mission.

>>6163884
I hope you realise that the siege of troy wasn't real
just in case you're wondering, zeus wasn't real either

>>6163899
>>6163929
What are you guys from the early 19'th Century or something? --- Archaeology has confirmed many aspects of the Trojan War, from Schliemann to our own times. And zeus is real, but he is not a most high god, he is probably one of the nephilim or another demon.

>>6163559
>you will never fight alongside king Redbad as the last of proud Frysian pagans against foreign hordes led under the banner of Christianity.

>>6163954
>19'th
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it's just "Finnegans" actually

>>6163870
Surrender the island. It was of strategic importance to the war and the Athenians thought that if they left the melians be, the entire delian league would revolt.

Have you read the melian dialogue? Do you remember the quote "you know as well as us that the way of the world is that the strong take what they can and the weak endure what they must."

>>6163958
>you will never be fucked in the ass by a hairy, muscular viking warrior

>>6163954
Hellenist, please.

Siege Of Constantinople
>mfw I'll never stand my ground with my fellow greeks and based Konstantinos Palaiologos repelling hordes of ottomans from the best city in the world.

>>6163991
>mfw
>doesn't post a face

>>6163963
Yeah, I've read the melian dialogue. But it isn't a based military moment. It was a slaughter and enslavement of an entire island just because they could.

>>6163999
fuck forgot to post face

>>6164003
BASED

>>6164059
would it be so based if you were the one being enslaved you fucking bitch

Ending of the Warring States under the Qin banner, China might have become something like Europe if werent for that early unification

>>6164106
That anon wouldn't have been enslaved. Those too small/weak to labor in the mines and shit were among the slaughtered.

>>6164106
Literally missing the entire point of the Athenian's position in the Melian Dialogue. Go read it.

The Melians told the Athenians the same thing and the Athenians responded with something like "These things do not matter, The only thing that should inform your decision is that we will have melos either through your subjugation or your destruction."

The Melians chose to fight and were annihilated. You fight like a younger man, with nothing held back. Admirable but mistaken.

>>6163559
As a WW1 junkie I always wanted to be part of the initial German drive on Paris in the Schlieffen Plan. So much excitement despite the inevitable failure.

>Feeling like a bigshot with my helmet full of flowers departing on a train with "On to Paris!" written on the side

>>6163628

Eh, the Turks did things better.

>>6164215
All males were killed.

An army of Byzantine rebels were fighting the emperor. The rebel leader rode forward to challenge the emperor to a duel. As the emperor rode forward to meet him, the rebel fell off his horse and died of a heart attack.

He was really old.

>>6163559
Nestor Makhno BTFOing the Whites, the Bolsheviks, and the German Imperialists with a literal ragtag group of peasants who volunteered and horsedrawn machine gun turrets and defending the Ukrainian Free Territory until Trotsky backstabbed him.
Revolutionary Catalonia was pretty cool too.

Battle of Chosin Reservoir during the Korean War.

US commander Chesty Puller no I am not shitting you reportedly commented
>We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things.

Result: Chinese pyrrhic victory

Admiral Nelson. Man had skills and massive stones.

>>6164797
> Based Makhno
> Isaac Babel, a political commissar in the Red Army in the Ukraine wrote: "Makhno was as protean as nature herself. Haycarts deployed in battle array take towns, a wedding procession approaching the headquarters of a district executive committee suddenly opens a concentrated fire, a little priest, waving above him the black flag of anarchy, orders the authorities to serve up the bourgeoisie, the proletariat, wine and music."

>>6164829
Based Chesty

>>6163559
There are a lot of great moments, but I choose to cheat and say the entirety of Glorious Suvorov's military career.

If I could follow one man into battle, it would be him.

>>6164905
The bullet is a mad thing; only the bayonet knows what it is about.

All the Napoleonic Wars, the Punic Wars and the First World War.

Battle of Myeongryang

>>6164888
Was this guy the fucking Joker ?

During the second Goguryeo-Sui war, Korean general Eulji Mundeok used a long-term strategic retreat to pull Sui forces further into the Korean interior. Sui kept successfully conquering forts and thought they were on a clear path to victory. Once Sui was 20 miles from the Korean capital, Mundeok sent the Sui general this poem:

Your divine plans have plumbed the heavens;
Your subtle reckoning has spanned the earth;
You win every battle, your military merit is great;
Why then not be content and stop the war?

Supply lines began to be strained and moral was low as the army was fooled into being trapped deep in enemy territory. Mundeok then had his soldiers dam up a major river and launched an ambush on Sui troops. With the River much lower than usual the troops began to flee across it, when Mundeok ordered his troops to destroy the dam and flood the fleeing enemy troops and have his casualty massacre the survivors. Records say that of the 350,000 soldiers in the invading force, only 2800 made it back after the ambush (carried out by Mundeok's force of 10,000).

>>6164967

Good books on Sui-Tang - Korean wars, korean history, etc?

I want to die in battle for a great man and a great cause instead of spending my life shitposting on 4chan and then eventually becoming either a pathetic wageslave or a pathetic NEET.

>>6165052
Napoleon is the only person that I would die for.

>tfw you'll never be like Chateaubriand, Byron or Vigny
>fighting the day with you brothers, writing the night between the corpses of the fallen soldiers

The Charge Of The Light Brigade

Arguably one of the stupidest things ever , and yet it also has an aura of Wagnerian, romantic doom.

>>6165071
>Dying of a fever in a trench in Greece
<:^)

>>6165160
Ok, maybe not Byron..

>>6165163
>Having sexual relations with your cousin(s)

>>6165052
>you will never march into the Battle of the Somme with Ernst Jünger
why even go on living ;_;

>>6165172
>>you will never march into the Battle of the Somme with Ernst Jünger
Jesus, did you keep count of the deaths in Storm of Steel. Not too many men who went into battle with Ernst made it to the end of the war in one piece. Hell even Ernst got ventilated multiple times.

>>6165199
>implying dying in one of the greatest battles of all time wouldn't be glorious

>>6163991
>tfw you'll never be the artilleryman who fired Basilica and destroyed the walls of constantinople along with your sense of hearing forever

>you will never reconquer large parts of the Empire with Belisarius
>you will never curbstomp persians with Emperor Heraklios
>you will never slaughter slavs with Emperor Basil II
>you will never blind and maim your enemies
>you will never attend mass in the hagia sophia
>you will never burn your enemies with greek fire

Hannibal was GOAT

dude killed himself before allowing the romans the privilege of capturing him

>>6163559

The Battle of Fort Eben-Emael. Thank you based Führer.

>>6165271

>you will never throw Hasdrubal's severed head into Hannibal's camp

I just want to dish out cheeky war banter.

>dat sherman scorched earth policy

>>6165271
>Hannibal
>black
>a king
I think you need to reread that wikipedia page m8

>>6165397
It was just a swole picture I found on google. He's supposed to look arab right?

I always thought that Claudius' wife Messalina wedding to to her other man and the night she had a contest with a prostitute to see who could take the most dicks in one night was a pretty cool history anecdote.

>>6165207

Nobody thinks the Somme was glorious bud. It was a hell hole where hundreds of thousands died for no fucking reason beyond muh nationalism and honor. Fuck, the Somme was hell

>>6163559

The Czech Legion fighting the Red Army and all other takers across the breadth of Russia, following the Siberia rail line to Vladivostok and then taking ships to France

>>6163605
>you will never freeze to death in a ditch
Truly, a tragedy.

>>6166147
There are worse ways to die

>>6166158
In your mom's house from a combination of ecoli and starvation when your mom eventually fails to bring you food or clean your room for a few weeks after a rough sounding client and sudden lull in business?

>>6166173
I live with my dad, not my mom you fucking faggot.

>>6166176
Sorry, I only know him by his stage name.

One eyed Jan Zizka putting the beat down on the Catholic crusaders against the Hussites for multiple years, never losing a battle

FUCK THE GAULS
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>>6165494
Nope not really.

He had blue eyes.

>>6164735
Nah, you're fooling yourself. The Ottoman empire was in a constant state of decline from its inception. It was a military powerhouse but culturally and economically it couldn't equal Rome. If you mean to insinuate that the Turks are better than the Romans I'm sorry but you're just wrong.

Caesar's vendetta against his pirate captors.

>there are reports of allied/Swiss bias in how many allied v axis planes the Swiss shoot down for a neutral country in WWII
>Swiss shoot down extra allied in response
>wtf-is-a-balance-sheet-bitches-and-how-we-do-them.pdf

>>6165494

Semitic, probably closer to modern day Maghrebis than full Arabian. He also only had one eye

>>6163628
The Byzantines didn't consider themselves Roman.

Confederate in the battle of Atlanta.

Facing certain death and defeat, but bringing as many of those motherfuckers with you as possible.

>>6166277

Yes, they did. They referred to their state as Imperium Romanum, and to themselves as Romans. The point of view held by the emperors was that after Odoacer rolled up the emperor in Rome, he returned sovereignty over the Roman empire to a single ruler -- that of Constantinople. This to be fair seems to have been pretty much true: the fact that they couldn't hold on to most of the Rome-ruled territory is sort of immaterial, because neither could the later emperors of Rome. The idea of a "Byzantine empire" is a comparatively modern invention.

Probably the raid on Bin Laden.

>>6166403

>>6166277
yes they did retard

>>6164829
I so sick and tired of hearing about Chesty Puller

Every fucking day I hear "What would Chesty do?"


"Get your hands out of your pocket think about Chesty"

Fuck him and everything about him.

>>6166310

The Confederates did nothing in the Battle of Atlanta except lose.

>>6163559
The scale of the Soviet invasion of Japanese held territory is quite amazing.

>>6166665
>see Aftermath
>participants: Emus

Australia is just batshit fucking crazy isn't it?

>>6163628
Sounds like modern Europe.

Pic related.
>One of the first men going into space
>Ship is being fucking destroyed
>Gravity and momentum keeps your body from moving, you're light headed and can feel the body fluid run up your spine
>To make matters wosrt your flesh is melting off your skin
>As you're dying your life long rival aka the United States
>In your final moments of horror you curse the soviet union knowing that spies are listening in

>>6163628
I dont think that's how Rome fell. But that was was pretty deep. Fucking gave me a boner

>>6166796
Did you expect the navy to have more YMCA songs?

>>6166188
Knights getting BTFO by wagon carts...I was read stories (or legends) of him as a kid

>>6167058
>Navy

>>6166910

The best part : the emus won.

The Kokoda Track Campaign
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokoda_Track_campaign
>Aussie militia beating back the Japanese in the mountains of Papua New Guinea

The Japanese holdouts after WWII are pretty crazy in concept. Imagine spending 3 decades in the jungle, fighting a war that's been over for years.

>Hiroo Onoda
>know the war is over (it's 1974) but refuse to surrender without orders from his superior
>Japanese gov't arranges to find his former commander (still living), and has Onoda officially relieved of his duty

>>6163657
>Based Balbi

>>6167053
If I were that guy I'd be furious.

>>6167106
>Onoda was thus properly relieved of duty, and he surrendered. He turned over his sword, his functioning Arisaka Type 99 rifle, 500 rounds of ammunition and several hand grenades, as well as the dagger his mother had given him in 1944 to kill himself with if he was captured.[9] Only private Teruo Nakamura, arrested on 18 December 1974 in Indonesia, held out for longer.
Dam this guy wasted a big part of his life for almost nothing. Based as fuck but still kind of stupid.

>>6167124
silver hearts, when will they learn?

>>6166129
*The Czecho-slovak legion

Nobody cares about the most important war in human history

>No one mentions baron Roman von Ungern-Sternberg.

Ungern-Sternberg's attraction to esoteric Buddhism and his eccentric, often violent treatment of enemies as well as his own troops earned him the sobriquet "the Mad Baron" during the Russian Civil War. He was also an arch conservative pan-monarchist who aspired to restore the Russian monarchy under Michael Alexandrovich Romanov and revive the Great Mongol Empire under the rule of the Bogd Khan. During his short five month occupation of Outer Mongolia, Ungern-Sternberg imposed order on the capital Ikh Khüree through fear, intimidation, and brutal violence against opponents, particularly Bolshevik supporters. Mongolian Buddhists believed him to be The Avatar, one of few incarnations of God of War and during his occupations of Mongolia were joining his forces without hesitation.

>anti-Bolshevik warlord
>considered God by huge portion of his followers
>Tsarist
>batshit insane

I'd run the world far and wide with that man.

>>6163991
>greeks

>>6167298

>>6165271
Many, many people can boast of having done that. It was a common thing to do.

>>6166048
That sounds incredibly suspicious. Nothing based about it either way.

>>6166235
Wasn't he 19 or 20 at the time? It really was one of the most based moments in history. Bloody, but based. You can't remain unimpressed at the sheer character required to do that.

Siege of Alesia by Caesar

Probably the Relief of Goes during the 80 Year's War when Spanish soldiers waded across a river through chest deep water for 15 miles to relieve a city besieged by the Dutch.

Another good one from the same war is when the Dutch deliberately flooded Leiden so that they could carry food by raft to the besieged inhabitants, allowing them to beat the Spanish

>>6164121
why? how does that make any sense?
if see the history of the us and rome, it seems that big united countries foster develepment in society

>>6167053
Yes it did, the city was lost so the last Emperor said goodbye to his companions then threw himself into the thickest fighting and was not seen again.

>>6167106
>Aussie militia
Kokoda was the regular Australian army fighting the Japanese on Australian territory.

>>6167475

Arabic account says he killed 3 Turkish soldiers before getting killed and getting head chopped off so 8/10 for the effort if you believe muslims.

>>6167402
Not him/her,but after the brilliance of ancient China they more or less stagnated throughout the 2nd milennium while shit was getting hot in Europe. They were too big, too unified and too scared, they were far more focused on maintaining their huge empire than they were on innovation or exploration. Indeed, they actually banned boatbuilding which seriously retarded their progress and development in an increasingly maritime world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haijin .You need some amount of competition to make good progress, the 20th century taught us this if nothing else.

Also
>the us
>development in society
lol k

>>6163559
>*exhales giant smoke cloud*

When like, the fighting stopped, maang.

>>6167298
check out the mad monarchist blog

I find most works on him to lack the degree of objectivity one would expect of scholars of history. Very often from the get go he is asserted as much crueler and more insane then any of the evidence we have of him actually points to. All and all, bad guy, but not THAT bad.

>Mongolian Buddhists believed him to be The Avatar, one of few incarnations of God of War

This is false. He took himself as a wrathful deity (and some politically motivated Buddhist leaders agreed) which isn't a God of war by any stretch, and "The Avatar" is an Indian/Hindu concept which never seemed to percolate into Buddhist Mongolia.

"Sanity is for the weak" -Ungern-Sternberg

Babar defeating the army of the Indian Confederacy that outnumbered his forces by at least 5 to 1 and founding the Moughal Empire.

>>6167567
You have no clue about Chinese history at all. Protip: from 1000 to 1900 China was mostly run by non-Chinese barbarians.

>>6163665
It was really the Russians who won at Leipzig, not the Germans

That said it was the Prussians who won at Waterloo rather than the brits

>>6167240
While it was very important hardly any of it was BASED. It truly was one of the most horrific conflicts ever and there was nothing glorious about it. The only thing I can think of being a little bit based is the Christmas truce, but when you think it only happened because the troops were just so fucking tired of fighting and the awful conditions they straight up ignored their commanding officers and just had a good Christmas with the enemy, who turned out to be regular people as well on both sides, it sort of puts it in perspective.

>>6167628
>it was the Prussians who won at Waterloo rather than the brits

The Prussians ensured the victory, but the British had beaten Napoleon before they'd shown up. Even if the Prussians marched off the face of the earth Napoleon would never have recovered from the thrashing the Brits had given him all day.

>>6164715
>Jeder Stoß ein Franzos

>>6167642

Can no one just tell me what war you're talking about? Not everyone is an adept on history of warfare.

>>6166665
The alternative from the Talk page is so much better

>>6167786
or you could look up Christmas Truce on google you lazy sod

>>6167786
The Great one. The war to end all wars. The first one where we invited everybody. WWI. The one that comes before the more popular WWII.

>>6167106
>Japanese gov't arranges to find his former commander (still living), and has Onoda officially relieved of his duty

Actually the Japanese government had forgotten about him, it was a student who set out to travel the world and find a panda, the yeti, and Onoda, in that order

He had to convince the government quite a bit when he returned, and they had to dig out his former officers (I think the guy worked in a bookshop?)

I read his autobiography, kind of nice, leaves out that Onoda shot/murdered quite a few Philippinos

>>6167628
Russians won truly, yes, but symbolically it is a German victory as the majority of Coalition forces were German/Austrian, Germans took 80% of the casualties, the German flag was first used in the battle and Germans defected to winning side at a crucial moment. Very symbolic.

>>6166862
> Plan the second largest offensive operation of all time in terms of manpower
> Execute it perfectly
> Guarantee communist victory in China
> Nobody remembers it

>>6167852
>When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all

>>6167117
you can find the audio recording online. its actually very chilling. I'll see if i can remember his name.

>>6167612
shut up dude, my chinese parents are chinese I speak chinese and I lived in chinese, i also like chinese food and chinese medicine; i would know the history wery well

it is right, chinea always in control and never conquiered ever, mongolians and tibetans just liers

hashtag#realtalk

>>6167642
the christmas truce never happened, its a myth, look it up on trustworthy double blind sources

>>6163804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffeOvwBYkf4

>>6164936
Yes.

They approached the village guardedly. Makhno himself and a few of his comrades went on reconnaissance and saw a large enemy camp on the church square, dozens of machine guns, hundreds of saddled horses, and groups of cavalry. Peasants informed them that a battalion of Austrians and a special pomeshchik detachment were in the village. Retreat was impossible. Then Makhno, with his usual stubbornness and determination, said to his companions: "Well, my friends! We should all be ready to die on this spot. . ." The moment was ominous, the men were firm and full of enthusiasm. All 30 saw only one path before them -- the path toward the enemy, who had about a thousand well-armed men, and they all realized that this meant certain death for them. All were moved, but none lost courage.

It was at this moment that one of the partisans, Shchus', turned to Makhno and said:
"From now on you will be Batko to all of us, and we vow to die with you in the ranks of the insurgents."

Then the whole detachment swore never to abandon the insurgent ranks, and to consider Makhno the general Batko of the entire revolutionary insurrection. Then they prepared to attack. Shchus' with five to seven men was assigned to go to attack the flank of the enemy. Makhno with the others attacked from the front. With a ferocious "Hurrah!" the partisans threw themselves headlong against the enemy, smiting the very centre with sabres, rifles and revolvers. The attack had a shattering effect. The enemy, who were expecting nothing of the kind, were bowled over and began to flee in panic, saving themselves in groups and individually, abandoning arms, machine guns and horses. Without leaving them time to come to themselves, to become aware of the number of the attacking forces, and to pass to a counter-attack, the insurgents chased them in separate groups, cutting them down at full gallop. A part of the pomeshchik detachment fled to the Volchya River, where they were drowned by peasants who had joined the battle. The enemy's defeat was complete.

>>6165169
>Having sexual relations with your cousin(s)

Implying this wasn't extremely common amonst the aristocracy in order to secure the holdings of the house.

>>6164936
Makhno was Edgy Hedgehog before it was even a thing.

The Russian Mennonite diaspora recall the ‘uncontrolled terror’ inflicted by the Makhnovists as they slaughtered hundreds of men, women, and children (Huebert, H.T. & W. Schroeder, p-138);3 ‘Driven by mad violence’ (Toews, p-252) the bandits displayed ‘the bestiality of men who had become raging animals’ (Toews, p-142); ‘Helpless and defenseless, [the Mennonites] were exposed to the horrible reality of an unprecedented, bestial anarchy that expressed the basest human instincts’ (Dick, p-137); ‘This part-targeted, part-random horror lives on in the Mennonite imagination as a kind of ultimate Manichean abomination’ (Dyck, n.d.); etc. ‘By the time of the German withdrawal,’ writes one memoirist, [Makhno] had an army of 100,000 followers, all criminals, all hostile to humanity, their hatred directed against everybody (…) Having stolen most of the horses in the countryside, they exemplified terror on horseback as they carried out their program of plunder, rape and murder with a vengeance.’4 The story of this ‘terrible, hated man’ has become a centrepiece of Mennonite identity and a historical truth passed between generations; here is a representative example from a young Mennonite: ‘In Muensterberg, Makhno beheaded a whole family and set all the heads on display on tables’ (

Maybe not my "Favourite" military history moment, but the Battle of Teutoburg forest would have to be up their. with the Cherusci absolutely annihilating the Roman XVII, XVIII, XIX legions.

Arminius' successful infiltration of Varus' Legions, spending time learning their tactics and their flaws, steadily gaining their trust even if he was only a mere barbarian to them. Then exploiting Varus' incompetence with false reports of attacks against other Roman territories. Then persuading Varus and the other officers that he knew the fastest and most secure way of navigating the forest inorder to ambush the attackers, and with that lead the Roman forces out their base camp into a series of traps.

Just imagine marching along a pathway through a peaceful forest, on your way to teach some barbarian scum a lesson and with a blink of an eye thousands of screaming barbarians come descending on you from the trees.

>>6167867
>and I lived in chinese

Same, my whole afterlife.

Maybe not my "Favourite" military history moment, but the Battle of Teutoburg forest in 9 A.D would have to be up there, where the Germanic Cherusci absolutely annihilating the Roman XVII, XVIII, XIX legions.
How Arminius had successfully infiltrated Varus' Legions, posing as a friend an ally to Rome for years, learning their tactics and their flaws, steadily gaining their trust even if he was only a mere barbarian to them. And after meticulous planning and scheming to remove Roman presence from his lands, Arminius had finally begun to set said plans in to motion, beginning with a successful exploitation of Varus' incompetence, presenting him with false reports of attacks against other Roman territories, but more importantly persuading Varus and his officers to leave the confines of their base camp to strike at the enemy; promising that he himself would lead them through the forest in an attempt to ambush the false enemy. All the while Arminius’ troops were setting up ambush points along the route Arminius had planned to take the Roman forces.

Just imagine marching along a pathway through a peaceful forest, on your way to teach some barbarian scum a lesson and with a blink of an eye thousands of screaming barbarians come descending on you from the trees.

Thousands were killed, including Varus and his officers, many of which fell on their own swords in panic. Augustus was supposedly so haunted by the news he reportedly smashed his own head against the wall, howling for Varus to bring him back is legions.

If I remember correctly, Varus was married to Augustus' great niece, and that was one of the reasons he was given command.

>>6164936
> Raid a police patrol
> Steal uniforms
> Show up to mennonite mansion during twilight in police uniform
> Landowner asks police to stay for dinner, always a good act from the rich
> Makhno and co pretend to be police force during the dinner
> During the dessert, the discussion moves towards all sorts of peasant rabbles so iconic to Ukraine
> Landowner asks Makhno whether the police will be able to keep down the Makhnovist insurgency or whether they need aid in protecting Mennonites
> Makhno re-assures that no further assistance is required, stands up, points his pistol at the landowner and proclaims him to be executed in the name of people's tribunal
> The whole family is killed on the spot

“they arrive like destiny, without cause, without reason, without pretext.”

>>6168051
you just made all of that up, i red the book and none of that is in there

>>6168064
> I read the book
Which one of Makhno bios? Most of them almost completely ignore his partisan activities and personal killing (such as him executing Grigoriev in middle of his speech) for perhaps propagandist reasons.

I'll find you the book I took the anecdote from in a few.

>>6167925
He was widely considered a pervert by his contemporaries

La noche triste
>you will never give the conquering spaniards and their incredibly advanced weaponry one last spanking, so they remember you in their sleep.

>>6168084
>>6168064
Right so I found the book. Its from Ari Vakkilainen's Nestor Mahno, which is a Finnish bio of Makhno. I don't know if you speak it, but here's the online text.: http://www.anarkismi.net/nestormahno/mahno3.htm

My free translation of the last paragraph which tells the incident would be

Dibrivkan lähellä vietettynä aikana Mahno teki joitain kaikkein legendaarisimpia temppujaan naamioituneina poliisin univormuihin. Eräs legenda kertoo rikkaan maanomistaja saaneen vieraaksi poliiseja, jotka kutsuttiin pöytään syömään ja juomaan. Poliisien päällikkö on psykopaatin näköinen kääpiö ja tämä tenttaa syömisen ja juomisen lomassa talon isäntää Mahnosta ja kapinoivista talonpojista. Isännän mielestä kapinoivat talonpojat pitää tappaa mutta sitä pirullista Mahnoa pitää kunnolla mankeloida ennen tappamista! Poliisit syövät ja juovat rauhassa ja pöydän ollessa tyhjä sieppaa poliisikomentaja revolverin esiin ja toteaa käheällä äänellä: "Ei me olla mitään poliiseja. Mä olen Mahno".

"During the time spent in the vicinity of Dibrivka, Makhno took part in some of his legendary acts whilst dressed as a police. One legend tells of a wealthy landowner receiving police as guests on his farms whom were immediately invited to feast. The Chief of Police was a dwarf who looked like a psychopath [Makhno is described looking like this several times in the book], who constantly asked the landowner to tell everything he can about Makhno and peasant insurgency. According to the landowner, the peasants ought to be killed, but Makhno should be tortured before his execution! The police eat and drink calmly, and when the food is carried away the chief of police grabs his revolver and grunts "We aren't police. I'm Makhno."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=191cJjVm_sI

>>6167230

True. Sorry about that, didn't mean to put the Slovaks or anything

>>6168205

*Slovaks down

Temujins entire life.

>>6168189
>You will never know the glory of fighting for Caesar

>>6167657
napoleon was forced to attack a bad position on a bad day with a full corps missing from his army because of the prussians

besides which, the french had to take the pressure off wellington's center because the prussians arrived on their right. The battle absolutely could have gone either way without prussian interference

>>6165246
You can still go to the haigia sophia tho. you could prolly get your m8 to feed you bread in it and all.

When Noah dropped the red sea on the Egyptians

>>6168118
Wasn't that because he was bisexual, though?

>>6164735

>>6164905
Suvorov is a pimp.

Charles Martel's got no game compared to Tervel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tervel_of_Bulgaria#The_war_with_the_Arabs_in_717.E2.80.93718_and_later_life

When Murricah done captured Ben Larden and thru his body in2 da sea.

German-French war 1870/71, because the first German unity was founded then.

Defeating a fucking dragon.

Battle of Chalons.

>This battle, especially since Edward Gibbon addressed it in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and Sir Edward Creasy wrote his The Fifteen Decisive Battles of the World, has been considered by many historians to be one of the most important battles of Late Antiquity, at least in the Latin-speaking world.

>It should never be forgotten that in the summer of 451 and again in 452, the whole fate of western civilization hung in the balance.

Ever wonder why church bells ring at noon?

The Siege of Belgrade (1456)

After the Turks to Constantinople, they tried moving deeper into Europe, starting with Hungary and Austria.

The last Hungarian outpost was in the town of Belgrade. 4,000 men were in charge of defending the town against 70,000 Muslims.

60,000 of Belgrade's inhabitants formed a collation and drove the Ottomans away back to Constantinople. The Turks were terrified.

Pope Callixtus III ordered the bells of every European church to be rung every day at noon, as a call for believers to pray for the defenders of the city. The Pope didn't withdraw the order, and Catholic and the older Protestant churches still ring the noon bell to this day.

>>6167800
WW1 is my favorite war, but it's a bit too soon to say it's the most important war of all time. If Carthage wins the Punic Wars, the course of human history is different. We could easily be saying this about WW1 in a few hundred years, but atm it's too soon to tell.

>>6166180
kek

>Different portions of an Austrian army, which were scouting for forces of the Ottoman Empire, fired on each other by mistake, causing self-inflicted decimation. The battle took place on the evening of 17 September 1788. The Ottomans were victorious and captured the city.

>The army of Austria, approximately 100,000 strong, was setting up camp around the town of Karánsebes (now Caransebeş, in modern Romania). The army's vanguard, a contingent of hussars, crossed the Timiş River nearby to scout for the presence of the Ottoman Turks. There was no sign of the Ottoman army, but the hussars did run into a group of Tzigani, who offered to sell schnapps to the war-weary soldiers. The cavalrymen bought the schnapps and started to drink.

>Soon afterwards, some infantry crossed the river. When they saw the party going on, the infantry demanded alcohol for themselves. The hussars refused to give them any of the schnapps, and while still drunk, they set up makeshift fortifications around the barrels. A heated argument ensued, and one soldier fired a shot.

>Immediately, the hussars and infantry engaged in combat with one another. During the conflict, some infantry began shouting "Turci! Turci!" ("Turks! Turks!"). The hussars fled the scene, thinking that the Ottoman army’s attack was imminent. Most of the infantry also ran away; the army comprised Italians from Lombardy, Serbo-Croatians, and Austrians, plus other minorities, many of whom could not understand each other. While it is not clear which one of these groups did so, they gave the false warning without telling the others, who promptly fled. The situation was made worse when officers, in an attempt to restore order, shouted "Halt! Halt!" which was misheard by soldiers with no knowledge of German as "Allah! Allah!".

>As the cavalry ran through the camps, a corps commander reasoned that it was a cavalry charge by the Ottoman army, and ordered artillery fire. Meanwhile, the entire camp awoke to the sound of battle and, rather than waiting to see what the situation was, everyone fled. The troops fired at every shadow, thinking the Ottomans were everywhere; in reality they were shooting fellow Austrian soldiers. The incident escalated to the point where the whole army retreated from the imaginary enemy, and Holy Roman Emperor Joseph II was pushed off his horse into a small creek.

>Two days later, the Ottoman army arrived. They discovered 10,000 dead and wounded soldiers and easily took Caransebeş.

>>6169429
multiculturalism in action

>>6167053
A quick search says that pic is from Apollo 1. Are you sure you didnt mean this?

>>6169737

Fucking hell, what?

>>6163854
>1805, the capture of the Tabor bridge. The French have to get across a bridge but the Austrians are going to blow it up. The losses would be catastrophic.
Maréchal Lannes and Murat, walked across it, went casually strolling to the Austrians troops, said that peace had been declared.

They then told officers that this area was to be given to the French, as ruled in the peace treaty. The Austrians retreated.

>>6169767
Vladimir Komarov.


Basically he took Gagarin's spot on an unsafe launch so the Hero of the Soviet Union wouldnt die. Thats what they recovered of his body.

>>6163559
Is it just me or is the entire concept of war, and more specifically first-world total war both awe-inspiring and mad. Just imagine the first two world wars, such sophisticated and culturally advanced nations, teaming together to kill each other, I mean really think about it. There is a weirdness and a madness to such reality.

>>6169818
If I were to compare both World Wars, they both equally disgust me for different reasons

World War 2 was the barbarity of man and technology unleashed to its near peak. We just didn't give a shit, all we need to do is look at civilian death tolls.
World War 1 is tragic in the twisted sense of reasoning we have. Many of the temporary truces between the sides on Christmas (with fucking football, of all things), be it playing "games" and singing to the other side whilst throwing hand grenades and having men be crushed by tons of mud, wasting hundreds of thousands of lives for little under a mile's difference.

>>6167867
you're not funny.

>>6163958
>Redbad or Radbod

either way this guy's name is fucking awesome

>>6168044
I think Arminius was very short-sighted. If he didn't know that such an act of betrayal would incur the wrath of the Romans, he was sure naive. Also the treatment of the remains of the defeated by the victors was pretty appalling and doesn't deserve any kind of admiration. In any event the ambush resulted in some severe short-term vengeance by the Romans, who devastated Germanic armies and territory in retaliation under Germanicus.

>>6168769

>>6170117

>Wild beasts in iron yokes he would compel;
>The spotted panther, and the tuskèd boar;
>The pardale swift, and the tiger cruel,
>The antelope and wolf, both fierce and fell;
>And them constrain in equal team to draw.

>>6170144

>>6164905
Suvorov was based. Most underrated commander of all time.

>>6170169

>>6164905
Bitches don't know bout my Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck

Never lost a battle

>>6170196
Based military moment.

>>6167876
there is absolutely no way this happened
I trust more that Hitler was a reptilian than I trust that these events happened

>>6170198
I love these illuminated drawings

>>6170198
Is that spiderhare?

Last hours in the fuhrerbunker would've been eerie as fuck

>>6170198
>the hare finally gets his revenge on the tortoise

>>6167516
Incorrect