/lit/ - Literature

>>6158643
>intern

Ask a guy who owns a printer anything

Well you're obviously in London judging by those bricks. Where you at? Which publishers? What book is that?

>>6158643
Wow, I literally "hire" people like you.

>>6158647
Not really, any questions?

>>6158648
>book
The First Bad Man - Miranda July

>publishers
Canongate Books

>>6158653
Oh nice, their authors are pretty qt.

How old are you and what degree do you have?

Do you deal with submissions?

>>6158650
What do you do?

>>6158656
Burger King manager

>>6158655
22, However I have absolutely no degrees.

Yeah, manly submissions. Also reading, a fuck tonne of reading.

>>6158659
Wish I had your job, working for free is slightly irritating.

>>6158663
What have you done since leaving school?

Canongate accepts direct submissions, right?

What are the most popular type of stories you read?

Are you from London?

LONDON
O
N
D
O
N

>>6158670
A variety of things.
Chef
Electrician
Bin man

Always wrote though, behind it all.

Yeah, although it's very rare for them to pick a new author to work with.

Mainly sci-fi. I went from comics to
straight books. Im liking the transition.
Yeah, London. Born and raised.

>>6158643
Dude, I just spent 9 years writing an 11 volume, middle grade, sci fantasy Monomyth with strong female characters for my neice who is now 11. It reads on an 8-9 grade reading level and it's like Star Wars and Harry potter had a beautiful baby and strapped a jet pack to it. How do I send it to you? I'm not kidding. After two rebounds of editing it's still like 4400 pages. pic related. Ask around in /lit/ about "gas-kun" they can substantiate my claims

>>6158643

Do you know this bloke here >>6155269??

>>6158689
Write a cover letter, and find the Edinburgh address. It'll get sent to London where I can read it.

God speed, friend

>>6158691
Yeah, I recently read Under The Skin.
Gonna start reading his last book, The Book Of Strange New Things soon

>>6158703
Is there a buzzword or code I can add to let you know it's me? The original ghost in the shell is one of my favorite movies. 2501 would stand out without being boisterous

>>6158689
Also, send to as many places as you can.
I cannot guarantee that it'll get picked up.

>>6158714
'Hitler did nothing wrong'

>>6158714
>2501
Is that the name?
If so, I'll be able to see it on the submissions log

>>6158709

I don't think it's Michael Faber, m8.

>>6158720
Nice try.

>>6158679
Do you still hope to be a writer?

What are you hoping to get out of this?

>>6158725
I don't know who the OP is, but it's definitely not him.

>>6158720
>>6158722
These guys are trying to derail the thread.
>>6158714
Just send it in, i read all submissions.
my paypal: zazazel@hotmail.be
if you want me to recommend it

>>6158715
Are there two different piles of manuscripts, ones from agents and ones from randoms for example?

I submitted to Canongate in December and I've resigned myself to not hearing back from them

>>6158735
>.be

U wot?

>>6158735
No, the 2501 is a GITS reference. The book is called Fusion Heart. Pic related. It's the manuscripts in their white boxes in the storeroom where I write.

>>6158738
Yeah what's up with the .be

>>6158643
>Intern

>>6158747
Don't listen to the others.

>>6158735
Should it be mentioned that it's a series? I've heard conflicting views about this but it seems that everyone wants a big story these days.

>>6158767
Yeah I figured. I'll send along query later after work. It's 9 am here and I'm home by 4. Look for fusion heart with a name whose initials are AJC. Thanks guy.

>>6158772
Write a decent cover letter. However I cannot guarantee that my superiors will pass it on. It helps if you have an agent, to back your work up.

>>6158767
Do you / they keep a list of people who have submitted, or keep any notes related to why manuscripts are rejected?

>>6158767
Stop browsing 4chinz

>>6158785
Much appreciated.

>>6158785
>one dank November day

>>6158787
There is a list, but no information regarding why they were rejected.

>>6158807
Why is the list kept?

>tfw my name is probably on it

>>6158736
They're mixed up,

Whats the name, I'll see if I can find it.

>>6158811
To see what's been sent in, the relevant contact info regarding the author and to see what became of the submission.

Book name, I'll try find.

>>6158767
>Yahoo search results: 4chans

What the fuck

>>6158816
>>6158815
At the time I was sending it out to various places I was struggling to think of a name and sent it out under different names (retarded I know). The Canongate submission was called Slush , but since then I've cut out the second of the three chapters since it's too slow. I can see why it might have been rejected, I just hope I'm not blacklisted.

Also where in London do you live?

Southwark here

>>6158818
Yeah, I just typed it into Google and that shit came up. I'm trying to be quiet.

>>6158663
what exactly do you mean when you say you "deal with" submissions?

>>6158755

Belgium you tard.

>>6158825
The question is why he is posting a Belgian email address when he's in London

>>6158822
Oh shit, Battersea. I attend college in Southwark.

>>6158824
I read them and decide whether or not to send them to the editor.

>>6158643

How do you feel about Emma Stone?

>>6158643
How could you ever expect to make it in publishing if you don't even understand how to use punctuation properly?

>>6158643
Do you get a lot of pussy?

>>6158833
Nobody here does::/;(;/.'!??:):..?!

>>6158831
Cute.

>>6158829
Nice, I used to live in Wandsworth and work in a pub in Battersea / Wandsworth.

Working full-time right now in the area while trying to write something worthy of publication.

>>6158834
Some, but not a lot.

>>6158837
Pub name, The Victoria?

>>6158833
My grammar is meh, is there a certain gram book that publishers adhere to when a usage question comes up?

>>6158643
do you have time for leisure reading or are you always reading manuscripts?

do YOU read queries / cover letters first to determine whether or not you should read the manuscript?

would you say the internship you have is representative of how things typically work in publishing or do you sense you're in a relatively unique setup?

>>6158842
Nah. It was on St John's Hill, more Wandsworth way but had a lot of Battersea folk in.

Are you still hoping to be a published writer?

Have you had anything published?

>>6158843
I doubt it. Most likely they use their own knowledge.

>>6158643
do you think it'd be possible for someone working in your position to secretly pass along their own manuscript to the editor? maybe just before leaving the internship? is that entirely not feasible?

>>6158845
Always reading manuscripts. or browsing the chinz

I read the cover letter, then base my decision on the manuscript.

A mixture of both, I sit in meetings about sales, then go back to reading manuscripts.

>>6158848
I am hoping. constantly churning out new ideas to keep myself active.

No =( But I have never tried.

How soon after you've received a query + manuscript do you actually read it? And do you know if that amount of time is typical across most publishers?

>>6158862
If I made it clear it wasn't me, yeah. There is no guarantee that they'll like it though.

>>6158875
what if they like and they eventually realize it's you

>>6158643
How many pages do you read on an average day?

>>6158874
All manuscripts get sent to the Edinburgh office, then sent down here. The more recent ones get sent down here.

If we're talking numbers, about a day, 2 days.

>>6158870
What are the editors like?

Any recently published books you recommend?

Any tips on having your worked noticed?

What do you think of people like Luke Brown, Alex Christofi who are agents but also write books?

>>6158653
does miranda july have a soul? because i read "no one belongs here more than you" and all i saw was irony

>>6158878
Then they'll contact me about publishing it.

>>6158885
roughly, about 140. First 20 pages of 7 Manuscripts a day.

>>6158894
Wow that's not much, especially if you can tell it's trash by the end of the first page.

>>6158643
can you post some of your writings?

i like finding value in other people's work

How easy is it to get a job in publishing for someone with no degree? I'm older than you by two years and was considering interning somewhere, you know for work experience and stuff but I absolutely want to do something involved with books as a living.

More questions:
What's the worst thing you've read that got published, and what's the best you read that didn't get through?
How do you feel about Proust and surrealist literature? Two of my favourites.

>>6158907
fav surrealist authors / works?
(not tryna derail thread, just interested in a brief rec)

>>6158907
Not that guy but where do you live?

>>6158643
Serious question: Why would you want to start a career in such an obviously declining industry?

>>6158913

Nezval and Antal Szerb are two of mine, look for Eastern European stuff from the Czech Republic and Hungary. They contributed A LOT to that movement.

>>6158915

Newcastle.

>>6158918
Comma Press operate out of Newcastle I think, it'd be worth contacting them Again, not that guy, just another Anon very interested in publishing and lit

>>6158921
>Comma Press
Ah shit Manchester, my bad,

Here's some Georgie ones if you're looking for experience: http://www.newwritingnorth.com/writers-publishers-in-the-north-east-of-england-page-1436.html

What do you do for a living at the moment?

>>6158934

Thanks for tip, I'm basically living the literary lifestyle at the moment but I did apply to a library this month but I don't think I got it since I haven't heard back.

>>6158907
This is something I'd like to know as well, though I have a STEM degree and would also consider specialist publishing, particularly biological textbooks.

Would it be easier to get into general publishing without a degree, or into specialist publishing with a relevant degree?

>>6158936
Kinda jelly man, I'm around your age and working full-time. Quite difficult to write since I'm so tired after work.

Do you write at all?

Also iktf about libraries, I applied for a ton of library jobs and didn't get them. You have to do work experience or even a degree to get one these days.

>>6158643
Hey guy,
Word from different publishers and agents is that The paranormal romance and dystopian trend is kaput. What have you heard and what in your opinion is the next trend in mainstream fiction?

Ha! Captcha was "sbmit"

>>6158975
>Word from different publishers and agents is that The paranormal romance and dystopian trend is kaput

>knowing
>caring

>>6158979
Please to 'sperg elsewhere. It's a legit question.

>>6158889
Sorry, long meeting.

The editor that is is here is a delight to work for

Guantanamo Diary
The Humans
S.
Black Mass
The Well

Its a gamble, just try and send it to as many publishers as possible.

Indifferent.

>>6158902

I have nothing digitally as of yet.

>>6158643
Where's my chai latte?

How many people are on coke in the publishing business? Are you on coke now? I am. Where does your boss go for his holidays? Does he have any pets? What about dogs, do you like dogs I like dogs most of the time but I hate having to pick their shit up what's all that about did we lose a war against the dogs or something it seems the power relations have gone wrong.

>>6158891
i'll make another thread next week. i'll have met her by then.

Did you have to read some Italian books, sent to your publishing press?

>>6159023
>The Humans
>good

Jesus christ man, you are a pleb. Matt Haig is a hack. I refuse to accept this isn't a troll.

>>6159034
>I'll have met her

sweatypepe.jpg

>>6158785
>One dank November day

>>6159030
Shit man that sounds like your coke is 60% speed.

>>6158907
extremely hard. I'm here as an unpaid intern. More like work experience, actually.

As of yet, I Have not read anything that's gone on to be published.

A story about a girl meeting her boyfriends parents for the first time. I believe it's called Dodd's End

>>6159038

Different strokes for different folks.

>>6159027

Somewhere other than here

>>6159063

I wish: I actually prefer speed to coke it lasts ten times as long and is a tenth the price so that makes it about a thousand times better according to my maths but I was excluded from maths because I touched Joanne Bidmead in an appropriate way with a protractor even though she liked it and asked me to touch her with some other stuff later.

>>6159078
>different strokes

Matt Haig is objectively a hack author.

I refuse to believe that you, as a 22 year old /lit/ poster, likes a guy (unironically) who writes stuff like this:

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/21955852-the-humans

>“Advice for a human.

81. You can't find happiness looking for the meaning of life. Meaning is only the third most important thing. It comes after loving and being.

82. If you think something is ugly, look harder. Ugliness is just a failure of seeing.” "

>>6159030
1. - Don't know, have yet to ask.
2. - No.
3. - I don't know, he's not here.
4. - No.
5. - I like dogs.

>>6159093
You're trying way too hard to be cool. Go away.

>>6159093
Who is Joanne Bidmead?
(Since you are on coke, what do you "feel"? Can you read, write, sing normally?)

Hi, Intern, sorry if I repost it, but:
" Have you ever have to read some Italian books, sent to your publishing press?"

>>6159100
To be honest, I ain't read it. I was just thinking about the books I can remember seeing.

But I won't knock till I tried it.

>>6159110
Where in Italy are you from?

I remember a guy on /lit/ from Italy working for a docking / shipping company or something, is that you?

>>6159110
No, I cannot say I have.
Why, did you send something here?

>>6159119
No, I'm not.
Tuscany, my friend.

>>6159125
No, my friend, just out of curiosity.

>>6159112
Have you read any submissions today you thought were good?

>>6159130
No, not yet.

Have you ever read something so dumb that you wanted to stop reviewing it?

>>6159134
What are your working hours?

Do you live with your parents?

What do you do for fun?

salary?

>>6159134
that's because you've spent the whole fucking day on 4chan
just like every other day

>>6159137
Half day, sometimes night shifts, it varies.

Yes, suburbs.

Reading, jogging, going out with friends.

>>6159139
Read the thread

>>6159140
>tfw someone who has spent 10 years writing and meticulously editing their first novel is rejected because OP can't wait to finish reading and shitpost on 4chan

>>6159141
How long is the internship?

What are your plans for when it finishes?

What do your parents think of your literary ambitions?

>>6158643
Can your boss hire me?

>>6159137
9am - 5pm

No.

Read, write, hangout with my friends, take them all ghost huntin', (we're all skeptical, 90% of the time we don't hear or see shit. just piss about in abandoned buildings) Watch as many films as possible & and try a meal at every restaurant I see.

>>6159158

SALARY? I LOOK THRU THREAD CAN'T FIND IT PLS HELP

>>6159148
3 months.

Hopefully working full-time here.

They are happy that i have a job, i guess.

>>6159158
>>6159141
Which is OP?

>>6159160
3 month-internship? Jesus. How did you land that? Also you said it's unpaid, no?

>>6159160
>>6159141

>>6158643
>Ask an intern at a publishing company, anything.
Do you like books?

OP what contemporary authors do you like?

What "genre" (if any) is your own writing associated with?

How old are the people you work with?

>>6159176
La Fontaine, Racine, Mallarmé, Pope

Hardboiled cyberpunk

30-50yo

>>6159159
Unpaid

Oi
>>6159165

This Is Me
>>6159170

>>6159180
You're working three months unpaid and don't live with your parents?

How can you afford rent?

>>6159179

What's the hot trend right now? Is it still YA dystopian trilogies? That's what I've been working on but I don't want to miss the fad.

Any insights into what the new hot thing will be? I'm just after them dolla bills.

>>6159185
I live with my gf, she pays rent I tidy and fix shit.
also allowance from my college.

>>6159193
yeah, tonnes of dystopian shit. you're on the right path.

>>6159198
noice

>>6159194
What do you mean allowance from college?

Also what does your girlfriend do?

Sweet deal btw.

>>6159182
Seriously tho, it was funny the first couple of times, but you can stop pretending to be me now.

>>6158689
Finally, the cycle ends here.

Goodbye, everyone.

>>6159205

>>6159222
>dat chub

>>6159225
YA DUN KNOE

=]

>>6158945

I don't write at all, not really my area but I'm good at giving an analysis on why a piece of work is awful.

>>6159193
>>6159198

Similar to that anons question, when you look over a YA dystopian novel that's either going to be stand alone or a trilogy do you read it in full and think it'll make big cash for your company or do you just publish it, without glancing over hoping it'll rake in lots of sheckles?

>>6159222
Nice trips. :^)

Use a tripcode next time you fucking idiot.

>>6159222
clean your fucking pudgy fingernails

>>6158643
I look through the porthole
I sail into the sea
the depth of any soul
left a hue in me

I watch with affection
to part blushing from blue
it is my affliction
my one restriction; you

My eyes do the calling
why do we turn apart
I can part the Red Sea
but can I break a heart
-How do I write a better poem?

>intern at a publishing company

When you go to Starbucks to get the office some lattes, how do you juggle more than 4 drinks, since only 4 fit in the holders? Or do you just restrict the orders to 4 at a time?

>>6159554
kek

>>6159554
When you go to your job at the truck stop bathroom as gloryhole attendant, how do you juggle more than four dicks? Since you only have two holes and two hands? Or do you restrict the number of dicks to four at a time?

>>6159554

>acting like it's some kind of imposition to get coffees for people

You've never had a job, have you m8?

My old flatmate did 2 years worth of internships unpaid in publishing in London. She never got a paid job out of it.
Good luck though op.

lol.

>>6158643
What's happening with the dragon novel?

>>6159908
>intern
>job

Good thread OP. I am hoping to go into publishing industry after college too. Any particular skill I need to develop if I want to be an editor?

>>6160052
still applies. id rather get people coffee than do nothing or do work

>>6160355
You'd rather go get coffee for people who actually are important and vital to the organization than be one of those important and vital people.

Do I have this correct?

>>6160340

You must be divine

>>6158689
>Monomyth with strong female characters
>it's like Star Wars and Harry potter had a beautiful baby and strapped a jet pack to it

I see you've entered the competition for 'most reddit post of the year award'. A strong showing and it's only February. Keep it up my friend.

>>6158828
>>6158767
That's not him. It's just some waffle trying to steal your shit.

>>6159222
Jesus Christ, just use a fucking trip already!

>>6160355

Don't you find it demeaning fetching coffee for people though? I don't mind making someone a cuppa but it'd hurt my pride to get sent off to buy some cunt his soy frappawappacino with organic vanilla extract. Why people would rather spend 5 quid on a drink every day rather than just buy a coffee machine is beyond me

>>6158643
>see ops pic
>ctrl f 300
>try hundred
>no match found
>leave thread