/lit/ - Literature

Might is right.

It's what the strong will, marble man.

What is necessary in the face of what is not.

Can there be justice without law? What about law, without justice?

>>6133244
Justice exists on a level above law, which is only a representation of the true justice.

Laughed out loud OP

>>6133225
whatever results from voluntary interactions is a just result.

>>6133225
an even scale

>>6133225
minding your own business?

hemlock

>>6133225
NOTHING! I KNOW NOTHING!

>>6133299
Deceitfully convincing a person with Down's Syndrome into signing a contract commiting him to mandatory torture sessions is just?

A spook

Justice is the internal state which harmoniously results in fair behavior, externally. Justice in praxis is the rendering to each individual what is due for their actions beit just or unjust; an equal scale.

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>>6134372

10/10

I lol'd

>>6133244
>>6133252

L E L

m8 justice can only exist once there is law.

Read Leviathan by Hobbes (and I don't even agree with the fucker on most things)

>>6133225
Fairness


more specifically, 1) everyone should have some essential basic liberties, mostly centered around thought

and 2) distributive arrangements should be set so that they are to the advantage of the least advantaged

>>6134372

You're a big guy

>>6133225
Just further proof that french house is cancer.

Chaos. Also, I don't think that's fennel.

The opposite of injustice.

>>6133225
State regulated revenge

>>6133225
>>So, Anon, what is justice?
It is the result of the moral doctrine in place.

>>6134757
Blep opinion, and they're electro not french.

a term used in discourse

It's a buzzword on an individual level

so is rational tbh

>>6133225
Justice is when everyone is doing what he should.

Justice is when I get my way

All philosophy that suggests universal ethics is for hacks

>>6136434
Are you the new tripfag to be bullied?

Justice is the mechanism by which a group of humans restores a sense of fair play to their interactions after there has been a breach of social contract committed by one or more of its members. The details are as complex as the relationships at play, but this is what justice refers to.

Each getting what he deserves.
Any other answer is plebitry.

>>6136434
>Justice is when I get my way
So being a huge faggot is justice then eh tripcunt?

>>6136646
But how do you know what a person deserves?

>>6133225
justice/injustice is the false dichotomy of plebeians.

might is right.

>>6136704
>being a lust driven guy
>not being a just man masterrace

>>6133225
Justice is an illusion.

Justice doesn't exist. To have justice you need personal responsibility. To have personal responsibility you need free will. To have free will you need freedom to choose outcome. To be able to choose outcome you would need to know the results of your choices with absolute certainty. You cannot predict the results of your actions with absolute certainty. Outcomes cannot be chosen, they are results.

Free will is an illusion.

Responsibility is an illusion.

>>6136707
>organising your life according to some arbitrary concept made up by society to make you behave
>masterrace

kek

>>6136777
>implying that my peenus is society
kek

>>6134585
>and 2) distributive arrangements should be set so that they are to the advantage of the least advantaged

I've heard this expressed before and didn't quite understand it, why should the advantaged care, and why does that necessitate justice?

>>6133225
>thinking that The Republic doesn't just use the discussion about "Justice" (about which it never reaches a conclusion) as a cover for Plato to have a discussion about education instead

top pleb, philosophy harder

>>6136988
>why should the advantaged care

>>6133252
lolwot

Justice is a word, not even a concept. Law, on the other hand...

>>6134585
Rawls please go

>>6137032
>about education
>not about goodness and truth seeking

lol wut

>>6134372

Somehow I don't think the Sockinator got too many second dates

>>6134585

>>6133225
Giving people what they deserve.

Shout-out to my boy Aristotle.

>>6133225
Justice is share that meal if you want share the bill.

>>6137106
If might is right, then the advantaged should not care until they are no longer the mightiest.

>>6137363
>>6137032
>work is called The Republic
>faggots literally believe the point of the work isn't to illustrate and determine a path to an ideal society

>>6137667
"Might is right" does not mean "thou ought to be a short sighted idiot."

>>6137695
Agreed. In this sense, the guilliotine depicted only occurs when you are such.
Let's try this, the mighty should care the minimum necessary to remain mighty in the long term.

>>6137695

i hate people who take 'might is right' as a guideline and not an unfortunately accurate observation

>>6137690
The work is literally called, Politea , or the Polis, it is about all of the things here mentioned, the nature of Justice, moral psychology, a perfect state, and education, to emphasize one over the other is to miss it in it's holistic nature.

Rewarding merit.

>>6134585
justice is an empty sock that you just masturbated into

>>6136721
you're a fucking idiot. re-examine your own arguments and try again.

>>6133225
Just get on with your revolution already, we both know there won't be any justice if we let any power hungry pleb rule.

>>6138584
>revolution

Literally the worst thing that can happen to a country.

>You will never be Socrates
>You will never wander around Athens BTFO of guards, citizens, elites, and everyone around you
>You'll never start arguments you know you will win, making whoever you are arguing against look like a fool
>You'll never be such an annoying little fuck that they decide to just exile or kill you

Was Socrates the first shitposter?

A fancy word to get oil. How new are you OP?

>>6140264
>Socrates
>not based Diogenes

Do you even into shitposting history?

>>6140274
Help me, /lit/. What is some essential shitposting?

>>6140264
He may not have been the first but he was one of the best at it.

>>6140277
The Inferno
The Secret History
The Ninety-Five Theses

>>6140341
Wouldn't the Ninety-Five Theses be considered concern trolling?

justice is balance

Justice is merely self-justification in the face of nature. Justice is the rejection of master morality; the embrace of weakness and the love of subjugation. Justice is revenge.

>>6138596
You're cutting me with all those edges m8

>>6140412

Selves are a part of nature

>>6133225
right proportion

a 9/10 french electronic band

>>6142034
What? There's nothing edgier than wanting to start a type of war characterized for being bloody and traitorous just to get your way.

>>6142369
>revolutions
>edgy

I guess being a freedom loving American is edgy then.

>>6134793
underrated post