/lit/ - Literature

We have always been Marxists, most of us are left communists opposed to Stalinist though. It might just be fishermen too

why do americans write the day and month the wrong way around?

>>6126455

true, there are like five separate threads discussing Stalin right

>>6126484

>wrong

good one

also, we're Leninists

>>6126484

That is the standard way in America. Kinda like how we use feet and everyone else meter

>>6126455
Stalin is in a period of image rehabilitation, which is an inevitable outcome of the Western hyperbolic assassination of his character and legacy. Anyway there's no such thing as Stalinists- only Leninists that don't take reactionary views of the USSR.

>>6126455

Fuck yes

>>6126498

>Leninist that don't take reactionary views of the USSR

implying Stalin wouldn't have knocked off Lenin if he hadn't died of natural causes

>>6126455

Good book

>>6126455
Okay, I'll mark my calendar so I don't forget by then.

>>6126516
>implying that has shit to do with anything
Haha, well ideology'd my friend! Next you'll be saying Stalinism dictates how many times we have to masturbate each day in order to be in accord with exactly how Stalin behaved or would have behaved.

>>6126595

>Stalin probably would have killed Lenin if he hadn't died of natural causes
>claims Stalinism doesn't exist, just non anti-USSR Leninists
>doesn't see the distinction

>>6126622
I'm not the person you were talking to before. Stalinism is not simply pro-USSR Leninism, since the USSR after Stalin conducted a vigorous campaign of de-Stalinization in favor of more humanist ideas, which was very opposed by Stalinists such as Althusser.

>>6126516
>implying Stalin wouldn't have knocked off Lenin if he hadn't died of natural causes
Are you an American? Lenin was Stalin's hero. If Stalin could've given Lenin another year by walking into lava he would have done it.

>>6126647

Stalin knocked off some of his best friends man. I really do think he would have purged Lenin at some point if he hadn't died

>>6126647
Stalin was a power-hungry sociopath, don't fool yourself.

Was Stalin just a more authoritarian Lenin?

>>6126666
More like a more radical Lenin. Both were authoritarian, but Stalin was very serious about accomplishing socialism, he didn't want to wait for it to blossom, and he had no trace of humanist sentiments.

>>6126666

not according to my bro Leszek. he thought if Lenin hadn't died he would have gone on to be just as bad a Stalin

>>6126681
>bad

>>6126784
Kołakowski was a humanist and an idealist, what do you expect?

>>6126455
Kotkin is hilariously revisionist.

>>6126800
Maybe for him to separate history of ideas exegesis from analytical judgement into two separate works? His accounts of the councilists are hysterically bad.

Tomorrow it shall be the turn of the Marxist-Leninist Mao Zedong Thought Deng Xiaoping Theory Three Represents Harmonious Socialist Society Scientific Outlook on Development Chinese Dreamists!

>>6126484
Because when written formal it is February 11, 2015. Month day, year.


Ass.

>>6126681
Is this worth reading? I saw it in my book store yesterday. I just want a general overview of the history of Marxism.

Seeing /lit/ talk about Stalin reminds me of /pol/ talking about Hitler.

I didn't personally know either of the men so I don't have strong feelings towards either of them.

>>6127066
Dubs confirm, Mao did nothing wrong.

Mao>Castro>Lenin>Yeltsin>Stalin

>>6127097

"I am a Marxist. The essence of Marxism is change. Barack Obama beat Hillary Clinton by stressing change. The Marxist in China today is not a stubborn, dogmatic, and outdated 19th-century old man, but a dynamic, pro-change, young thinker. We have a flexible approach: if Marx's words are still applicable, we will use them; for things he did not articulate clearly, we will spell them out; for what he did not say, we will boldly come up with something new."

>>6127104

based

>marxists
>stalinists
http://vocaroo.com/i/s04bIbFwGIWZ

>>6127150
Could you say that again a bit slower?

>>6127159
yeah sure
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1kwz7IfDi5X

>>6127106
"It has always been the foundation for the lifeline and pursuit of all Communists to have full confidence in ideals and firm faith in communism. Belief in Marxism and faith in socialism and communism are the political soul of Communists, enabling them to withstand all tests. Put figuratively, the ideals and convictions of Communists are the marrow of their faith. Without, or with weak, ideals or convictions, they would be deprived of their marrow and suffer from 'lack of backbone'."

>>6127161
Oh, now I've got it. Thank you.

>>6126494
Inferior measurements and wrong spelling

>Metre
Unit of Length

>Meter
Something used to take a measurement

>>6127161
No, we don't really see eye to eye anymore.

They're more interested in inventing new pronouns than bayoneting Kulaks.

>>6127181
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0JHUSwpGuTQ

>>6127182
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1QylfOAFz25

>>6127177
Americans do spell metre meter you tool

>>6127193
And they are all wrong.

Every one of them.

>>6126647
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/health/research/lenins-death-remains-a-mystery-for-doctors.html?_r=0

>>6126484
>why is everyone who does not do what I do wrong

>>6127932
>http://www.nytimes.com
>the very fist sentence
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA, dumbass

>Literally butchering almos the entire Politburo, even the people who agreed with him
>Stalinists think this is ok

>"I am a Marxist"

>>6128131
>"I am a (memeideology)o capitalist"

>>6128155
>"I am an extremist of any kind"

>>6128162
>believing in the political spectrum
I know you are on another spectrum, but chill.

>>6128162
>I am a moderate bi partisan agnostic pussy

>>6128173
>>6128177
If you're a political extremist, either left or right, you've pretty much admitted that you're either an unemployed loser or a fat autistic NEET.

>>6128189
I don't believe in the political spectrum; thusthereforst, I am not an extremist.

>>6128189
>implying isis are losers or autistic neets
you'll burn for this m8

>>6128205
>foreigners who go to fight in the middle east

>having an opinion

>>6128232
based germany sent their rappers

>>6127163
>60 years of communism
lmao sweden is more marxist than modern china

>>6128256
>being a person

>>6128266
I submit to you that China is Marxist in the sense that it has a government that claims to believe Marxist ideology, much in the same way that America is capitalist because it has a government that claims to believe in free market capitalist ideology.

>>6128287

>being
>having

>>6128068
What...?

>>6128566
>America doesn't have a free market economy

Would you people please shut up.

>>6128596
>

>>6128634
Libertarians who aren't full retard Ancaps will say it's a regulated Free Market®. Which anyone knows is a contradiction.