/lit/ - Literature

i read for whom the bell tolls and arrived at a similar conclusion to you opie. are we just plebs or is he a hack?

>>6085247
But that edition sure looks bitchin'

Honestly I feel his only valuable works are his short stories

>>6085254
That one and Old Man and the Sea are in my list next, I honestly hope I love them and they've gotten shining recommendations from my friends, but after this, Im not so sure.

>>6085259
The neohellenistic style does cool as hell on it tho, yea.

>>6085264
I like the Old Man and the Sea. It does seem to drag on during the middle like a lot of his books, but the themes of nature and the place of masculinity in it was pretty cool

>>6085286
I think Ill read it before Bells.
It was just pissing me off, every review ofa Farewell to Arms seems to just grovel without any real analysis.
Ill give it a reread soon, just to be sure.
Thanks m8.

>>6085264
don't let anyone influence your views, generally if its talked about a lot its worth reading even if its just to form your own opinions

Put yourself into the mindset of a man who might think it's a good idea to drink himself into jaundice.

>>6085247
I read the book about a month ago and I agree with some of your points. I think perhaps that the 'love' is meant to feel a bit forced, or as initially being superficial—though by the end I don't think it is.

It doesn't immediately seem like a great story, but it covers an interesting aspect of the war (an American in the Italian service), and gains a certain value from being—at least partially—based on the author's real life experience.

It probably suffers from being over hyped. (I also couldn't help but feel that the tragic ending has caused some to consider it a better work of art than it actually is. This seems to happen with certain films and books.) However, I still think that it is still a fairly interesting and solid story.

>>6085262
this

Check out his short stories OP, it works much better with his style.

>>6085578
Short stories and novellas by Hemingway tend to suit his style much better then novels do, but I still find his novels rather good. I prefered For Whom the Bell Tolls to Farewell to Arms

>>6085634
Didnt mean to link to other thread, my apologies.

>TFW lit has turned on Hemingway
>still one of my favorites
I am so lonely now

>>6085643
You are not alone

>>6085646
My friend

>>6085247
Hemingway, like Salinger, was just a hack who became popular just as aesthetic tastes collapsed on themselves in the first half of the 20th century leaving nothing but shitty best-seller novels.

I couldn't even finish it.

>>6085643
>>6085646
/lit/ hasn't turned on hemingway you dramaqueens. He is everywhere in favorite authors/books/ recently reading threads

>>6085247
Hemingway always feels "solid" to me. Nothing horrible, nothing even bad, but nothing truly amazing either. Its all good, all the time. Some great even, but that's it.

>>6085656
Read Salinger's short stories. Actually, read anything other than Catcher in the Rye and tell me he's a hack. That documentary on him is really good too.

I think Hemingway is a writer whom a taste for creeps up on you later in life. Like truly enjoying scotch whiskey, or coconut.