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6046786 No.6046786 [Reply] [Original]

that if you don't understand Plato and Aristotle you don't understand philosophy. :^)

>> No.6046790

philosophy is an art and the truest art leads to its own destruction. there's nothing to understand except that there was something to understand that is simultaneously both relevant and not

>> No.6046800

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ

>> No.6046858

>>6046800

We attain truth through practice of science and philosophy. Christianity is nothing more than a comforting fiction.

>> No.6046864

>>6046790

Art is said in many ways. Art as in a craft, and art as in the practice of aesthetic creation. You clearly can't mean the former, and the latter is obviously false.

Philosophy is a thinking and a way. It remains ineffable for those who do not choose to go along this way.

>> No.6046866

beware the enemy and his lies! his goal is to turn humanity away from the Lord towards their own destruction

>>6046858

>> No.6046884

>>6046858
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

>> No.6046900

>>6046866
>>6046884

Do y'all have anything besides bible quotes or do you have arguments to back up your rejection of reason itself?

>> No.6046909

>>6046900
The only true arguments are from the word of God. He is the reality.

>> No.6046915

>>6046909

The bible is not the word of God. Understanding of the divine is only possible through apprehension of the Good and the exercise of reason.

>> No.6046919

>>6046900
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
And bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

>> No.6046930

>>6046919

The moderns have needed no help in making themselves look like idiots.

>> No.6046939

>>6046915
>Understanding of the divine is only possible through apprehension of the Good and the exercise of reason.
Proof?

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>>6046939

Sorry, no can do.

>> No.6046977

>>6046958
>le pluto, am I cultured yet guys?
Just admit that there is no reason behind your belief.

>> No.6046980

>>6046915
>Understanding of the divine is only possible through apprehension of the Good

The apprehension of the Good is only possible through the acceptance of Christ, for it is through him that we are able to live out the divine properties of goodness and righteousness, grace and mercy. It is impossible to achieve this through the work of flesh alone, or the help of knowledge of good and evil which the enemy tricked us into taking; but only through life, which God provides.

>> No.6047019

>>6046977

No

>>6046980

I like you. You actually know your Christianity. Too bad we are destined to continually talk past each other, ships passing in the night.

Go on your way and rejoice in your lord. We'll figure out who's right about this one way or another. Hopefully for the both of us it won't matter in the end.

>> No.6047027

>>6047019
>No
But you can't appeal to my reason, can you?

>> No.6047031

25 At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. 26 Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.

27 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

>> No.6047048

>>6047027

The Good is ineffable, for it is beyond Being. This makes it hard to talk about without falling into mysticism. Therefore, this is the sort of realization that everyone must walk their own path towards, and this is a very long process. The more you learn about the true nature of reality the more it will make sense. We would have to choose a different starting point though and proceed in kind.

>> No.6047150

How did the guy in the OP become a meme? On wikipedia he doesn't seem that meme worthy.

>> No.6047160

>>6047150
/pol/ 'daily reminder that transgenderism is a mental illness' or something. they just posted a pic of that dude each time

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>>6046790
>philosophy is an art.
>not a form of study with carefully constructed logic.
>meteorology is an art.
Philosophy may require a creative mind, but it is not creative in the same way the arts are. It seeks to critically examine specific topics of reason in a consistent and clear way. Art may have philosophical qualities, but they are not the same.

>> No.6047365

>>6047196

Philosophy refers to too many kinds of thinking for what you said to be true of it.

>> No.6047372

>using ":^)" because you're too scared someone won't get the joke

Fuck, you're embarrassing.

>> No.6047385

Remember to report shitposting

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>>6047385
It won't do anything.

The Mods are shit.

>you'll never be a mod and purge all shitposting and keep to the assigned rules the board has

>> No.6048709

>>6046864
In fact, Aristotle uses the word 'art' to refer to craft quite frequently. I guess your OP was right to at least some degree.

>> No.6048717

>>6046786
Inb4 Butters turns up and uses this as an example for philosophy general threads.

>> No.6048759

>>6047372
There was a joke, so I don't understand humour either?