/lit/ - Literature

>>6045934

>>6045934
>I've gotten passed the whole Plebeian/Patrician facade

>>6045934
>hopeless romantic

you sound like someone of the right mindset to create a worthwhile fantasy setting.

>>6045934
>fantasy novels

>>6045934
>There's just something about being able to hand craft an entire world beholden to nothing but what I want it to that's so appealing to me.

>I'll still have to battle this perception that comes with genre fiction and especially of writers of the genre
>battle this perception
You mean the truth?

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>>6045979
fite me irl faget

I'm also a child like innovator.

>>6045945
>>6045956
I try not to care about things like this, but we all do deep down. I really do care about the impression I make, and I'm not afraid to admit that the thought of being scene as a fedora tipper bothers me greatly, even though I think it's a stupid insult. It doesn't even mean anything anymore, but I don't even want to be linked to the vague notion of it. This is why I've always kept this dream of mine secret except for one person I told at a bar once when I was really drunk that I didn't even know.

Shit, I wish this whole aspect wasn't a part of it. It's something I'm going to have to face though.

>>6045949
I don't know anon. I honestly feel like the whole elitist attitude is toxic. I've just met too many people that read things based on what the perception they perceive it will create for themselves. Like they're more interested in being recognized as an intellectual based on their aesthetics, putting their books on display as a trophy or proof of their intelligence rather than just reading for the inherent value of the knowledge itself for them as individuals. Almost like they seek validation from others rather than from themselves.

It all circles back to perceptions. It's the perceptions that are built for us that keep us confounded in this world.

>>6045979

Dude, I'm already doing what you're talking about. I'm crafting my childhood daydreams in to science fantasy epics. Jet packs, laser pistols, airships, mecha, magic, super science, aliens, the whole bit. Don't wait. Do it. I've been doing it for years now and it's such a gratifying feeling to pump out page after page. Don't hesitate. Pick a direction and go, man. Just GO. Some people will roll their eyes or say it's juvenile. Fuck them, they're not creating anything. Go for it.
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>>6045992
Just like Kanye West

I embody every characteristic of the egotistic
He knows, he's so fuckin' gifted
I just needed time alone, with my own thoughts
Got treasures in my mind but couldn't open up my own vault
My child-like creativity, purity and honesty is honestly being crowded by these grown thoughts
Reality is catching up with me, taking my inner child I'm fighting for custody

>>6045945
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>>6045961
Excuse me if this may sound retarded, but what exactly makes fantasy novels such a bad thing?

>>6046036
Just typical /lit/ idiots.

>>6045958
If you aren't being ironic, I appreciate that anon. I really want to believe that I am too.

>>6046013
I'm glad I'm not alone anon. What are you trying to say with the story you're telling, in the broadest sense of it? I know that's kind of a hard question to answer, and it's usually something that can't be summed up in a few sentences but I'm always curious about that aspect of peoples stories.

>>6046036
I think it's some kind of detached aloof irony that they're posting with there.

>>6046013
People who use the term "juvenile" as criticism are generally teenagers.

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>>6046057
So it doesn't have anything to do with the way they are written or anything of the sort?

>>6046111
Like was said earlier, it's their perception of what a fantasy novel is that they're mocking.

>>6045979
Shit, I didn't even know you could actually do that.

I was going to make this a separate thread, but it fits here better.

How much world building can you do before it just becomes fluff? Should I only create things that will have some actual relevance in the story I'm trying to tell?

>>6046094
It's funny how younger people are always more concerned with appearing mature at the height of their immaturity most of the time

I actually like fantasy for the total freedom that you described. For my part I enjoy that you can create the setting in any degree you see fit: you can create a world that mirrors reality but is not bound by its constraints, a world so fantastical and amazing that it springs from the well of pure imagination, or anywhere in between. You can populate that world with history, mechanics, and people in any way you choose to convey a message, tell a story, make social commentary or even ponder philosophy of any depth that you desire.

I feel as though people look at fantasy or Sci fi as this cookie -cutter set of rules and norms that must be followed, and probably many of the authors who write these books do so in the hopes of emulating the success (financial mostly) of their predecessors. But when you look at fantasy on the whole as the ability to communicate any message you want without being constrained by the laws of reality, I think you open up the door for something truly amazing.

That's how I feel about it anyway.

>>6046371
It's the compromises people make for financial gain that kills the potential meaning these stories can convey.

And we live in an age where people are more interested in stories that subvert and deconstruct the ideas and structures that already exist rather than building upon them.

>>6046048
My first series is your standard Monomyth/heroes journey with the regular stock of characters and a few additions. I stretched the structure a little so I could do the types of things I thought were missing in Star Wars (456) Harry potter, and LOTR. But after ten years I've matured and seen the path I want to go in. It'll be a deep space frontier story with a bit of dantes inferno thrown in for flavor.

>>6046371
Hear hear, sir.

>>6046371
>But when you look at fantasy on the whole as the ability to communicate any message you want without being constrained by the laws of reality, I think you open up the door for something truly amazing.

Yes, exactly. The best of sci-fi and fantasy allow us to explore things in a way that "realistic" fiction never could. They aren't just valuable because it's "fun" to explore new worlds (though fun is obviously important) they're valuable because these new worlds let us see our own world in a different light.

>>6048454
Exactly.

>>6045934
Do it m8. There's no reason why you shouldn't. And, as another anon said, you sound like you've got mindset to create something interesting.

I'm in the same position. I have a sci-fi/fantasy setting with a set of characters that I've been developing for a number of years, never really put down to paper. I know the rough narrative and the ideas I want to try and encapsulate, and fuck everyone else if they don't like it.

>>6046209
I think it entirely depends on the story you're trying to tell. There's no real rule of thumb, as you can't really quantify it, but I think too much fluff is when it starts to detract from the character development and slows down the narrative's pacing.

>>6046474
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with this - the fantasy genre is certainly ripe for deconstruction anyway; I can't really think of any major piece of work that's done this.

But yes, I agree, it'd be a nice if we could go beyond that and progress beyond Tolkien and everything that came after.

>>6048454
This. I mean, does this definition not apply to fiction per se? Why should sci-fi/fantasy be relegated to some arbitrary lower tier?

>>6051854
how is quality justified by the broad definition of genre?

sci fantasy is great

I want to create a massive space opera with lots of political intrigue and huge battles.

What's stopping me right now is that what I'm doing is so disorganized. My setting is, I mean. I think I'm going to make a wiki.

I'm working on a historical fantasy series as we speak. It's a lot of fun, especially as I've realized (like others in this thread) that you can use a fantasy setting to play out issues of the human condition in a way that the 'real' world simply doesn't allow. Gods and monsters and other realms make examinations of the human condition MORE compelling, not less.

bamp

>>6045958
I agree.

>>6045934

I'm creating a Cyberpunk fantasy novel series, and it's fun as fuck. You can get away with anything and it's piss easy to broach any subject you like since you can craft basically any circumstance with ease, while equally leaving whatever limitations you like.

Do it OP.

I got the biggest surprise today. I just started my new job and one of our customers was a guy I went to college with. I sort of recognized the guy but he sure remembered me. His face had this look of shocked glee. "Holy shit, anon! It's you! How are you? Man, I've still got that disk you gave me with the six books you wrote on it! You told me to destroy it but I couldn't! I've read that series four times since we went to school together! (2009) are you getting published? What have you done with your time?"
You know those books you read? That wasn't the end of the series. It was only half of it. I wrote the other half. There's eleven books. I finished it just over a year ago. I'm trying to get published but it's slow going."
His jaw dropped.
"There's more? Holy fuck!" He scribbles his email and phone on a scrap of paper. "Dude! Email me! I HAVE to know what else happens!"
I just ran into my first beta reader, and it feels boss as hell.

>>6057035
That's pretty awesome, anon. I'm happy for you.

>>6057065
Thanks guy.

>>6057035

Congrats anon.

I'm about to self-publish my fantasy novel today (on amazon and some other sites). Just have to finish editing/formatting it a bit.

It's a swords & sorcery type fantasy with a tiny bit of romance mixed in. It's only 50,000 words but I'm just testing out the waters now. Next one should be twice as long.

>>6045934

>Am I just being a hopeless romantic idealizing this lofty concept of imagination, or are our dreams worth dedicating our lives to pursuing?

Ummmm ya. What do you have to lose? Just start writing.

>>6045934
just do it you faggot

>>6057232
seriously, just start writing.

>>6045958
This. Go for it, OP.

>>6060342
This.

I'll buy your books, OP, even if they get bad reviews.

"Don't stack the skulls all in one place. Sprinkle them around a bit. Yeah, I know a mountain of skulls is scary, but it's like all imposing and in your face. We want to keep it like atmospheric, so it'll be like casual and not deliberate. If we just put them all right there it'll just look insecure."

I've been hard at work on a series of fantasy short stories in the midst of graduate school, one of which I intend to submit to Baen Publishing's fantasy writing contest and see what happens.

I have always wanted to write fantasy short stories, maybe a novel one day. I can't see myself writing any other sort of fiction, fantasy attracts me more. I've also thought of writing dystopian sci fi, because it seems to generally have heavier themes and is usually taken more seriously.

Tolkein took all the fun out of it.

>>6062237
But I put the fun back into it

>>6062188
Dystopian is fucking done. Time to flip the script. Utopianism? Now you're on to something. Let's see how unfucked you can make things

I've had a fantasy mythology cooking up in my head for almost 20 years now. Wrote my first installment in a notebook in 1997 when I was 10, and have been revising it ever since.

I gave up taking it seriously about half a decade ago when I came to terms with publishing being an impossibility (self-publishing isn't my thing), but I still jot down ideas here and there. It's fun to dream.

It's sad to think that it's a dream though. When you're young it feels like it's just bound to happen some day.

>>6061731
wheres that from?
sounds like pratchett

>>6062439
Dude. See that? That's 12 books I wrote. 11 of them are a sci fi Monomyth for kids. It took me just under nine years to write that. If I can do it, you can.

>>6063257
fuckin' awesome

>>6063257
I see your posts lately and was wondering, have you ever posted any examples of your work? I'd like to read something.

>>6063257
How can a story made for children be that long?

Allegory like scifi. No way like genre. fantasy like setting, not as genre, smiilar like scifi genre against setting. Has to be made as allegory.

>>6045934
I know exactly how you feel, OP. Well into my 20's and just beginning to write again. It's really an understatement in saying you can do whatever you want with the world you create.

>>6063409
lack of editing

fuck man, I really liked writing shorter horror and fantasy stories when I was in my early teens, by for some reason I have never made the leap to start writing a novel.
I kinda want to try and write a fantasy novel but I am afraid I am gonna end up "copying" Tolkien and all the other fantasy authors I've read during my childhood/teenage-years.

>>6063409
I slightly elongated the Monomyth so that the main characters son has to finish the job. I know that sounds like it might not make sense but if I told you how it would give away the ending. One of my first big reads as a teen was the Dragonlance books. Chronicles and the twins books. Everything needed to be said was done in those two series. The rest is just expanded universe. What killed me was when the book Second Generation came out. I read it and it felt like an afterthought. It felt disconnected from the source despite being written by the same people. I avoided that disconnect by planning ahead and taking a route other night not have

>>6045979
Wow since when are the mods this incompetent

There's a difference between authentic imaginative fantasy and the shitty DnD adventure and thriller books that you nerds read and want to write.

>>6057232
drop a link when you do or a hint to the tittle, ill buy it

So what exactly are these fantasy stories you want to tell about /lit/? I mean specifically, not just in vague platitudes. Both the visceral plot of it and the wider meaning that you're alluding to

>>6045934

Happy to hear from other fantasy enthusiasts on /lit/.

I think youre absolutely right and you should definitely go for it, the fantasy genre desperately needs original titles.

If your looking for inspiration for original content I highly recommend the Malazan Book of The Fallen series. The author discards basically all fantasy cliches, no elves or orcs. He basically has created the world you're talking about.

everything from his world building, the mass of characters and POV the rich history of the world and his actual knowledge of real life anthropology and geology makes his novels in my opinion the best fantasy series you will ever read.

>>6045934
If you want to do it you should absolutely try. I've always thought the idea is interesting myself. If you haven't already, try reading some of the more out there stuff, like Jack Vance.

>>6046209
As an average reader of fantasy I hate it when the writer tries to add depth by noting irrelevant locations and making up lore which has nothing to do with the story, but if it all swings back or is somehow interesting then it's fine

>>6064490
This. The fact that you believe you have surpassed "the whole Plebeian/Patrician facade" shows how low your standards are, OP. Elitism creates healthy competition and maintains quality in the arts.

>>6065848
I feel like it only creates pretenses and pretenders. It creates a desire to wear the aesthetics of the social perception of an artist rather than create a desire to express ideas through art

>>6046013
Anywhere someone might read some of it, Anon?

It sounds like you've got some ideas that harken back to a time before it was announced that all sci-fi had to be about broken, morally ambivalent antiheroes who only wear black and live in worlds where life mostly sucks and nobody can afford light bulbs.

>>6063257
>>6064398
so can you post some samples already. youre always shitting up threads

>>6066666
Repetin numbers :^)

>>6066627
Shits user wraps for now but I'm pushing hard for a lit agent. I'd love to share but I really need a professional editor to polish up what I've got

>>6066666
Superb quints, sir. As far as "shitting up" threads goes, all I can do is look at what I've done and use that experience or accomplishment as fuel to support others. In my opinion what it all comes down to is whether you're prepared to put in the work or not. There's a metric fuckton of posters who argue about what is shit and what isn't when they haven't taken step one of creating something of their own. There's a really really old sample of my first five chapters online but it's so rough that it's laughable and I can't get hold of Google to get the damn thing removed. Until I can get those fackers to let me resubmit I ain't taking the time to chop up pages into 3000 word blocks to fit on muthafuckin 4chan.

>>6067363

I'm really curious to see some of your work. You obviously put the time into it. Show us what youre worth.

I only say you shit up threads because you ramble on instead of posting examples of your work. Could you at least link me to the old 5 chapters. I'm genuinely interested.

>>6067350
>i need a professional editor
What are you afraid of? You think your stuff is too good for us or something? Shit writers in writers groups have more guts than you.

>>6067363
I'd settle for a string of dialouge/

Nigga I just want to write a story about a hedge wizard illusionist.

It'd probably be fun to write a novel for children. Something that isn't overwrought and weighed down with post-Tolkien complexity.

Young adult lit is shit, by definition.
Don't make anything YA.

Fantasy can be good.

>>6064705
>drop a link when you do or a hint to the tittle, ill buy it

I was gonna tell /lit/ about it but then I realized 99% of you guys will just give it 1 star no matter what. It's genre fiction anyway.

I think it would really interesting if someone tried a literary fantasy universe that played with the format and used it to do things you can't do in closed stories/series. Whenever a reader goes into a fantasy universe, they already know what the rules are, but they have no idea how those rules are going to be used or broken in that particular story. Shit, I want to start working on this now...

>>6067539
Tell /tg/ - they love this shit, and were super supportive when one of their guys put out a book about dwarfs.

>>6067463
just got home. too tired for this right now. be back around 9 in the morning. nite.

>>6067563
You should start today

>>6067461
Here. I found him.
Google:fusionpoweredepic

>>6069239
It does need editing but it's ok

>>6069239
>“Inertia.” Fennius said confidently.

oh dear

>>6067563
FWIW, I've been imagining a fantasy world that's kind of like this in a few ways. Haven't written it down yet and it's not high on my list of things to write, but I do find the idea endlessly fascinating.

Basically the idea is that of a fantastic planet which is tidally locked to its sun so that one side is eternally in darkness, while the other side is eternally in the light of day, except that is has a moon which orbits at the exact perfect distance such that, once a day, its shadow eclipses the entirety of this planet's lit side. On the dark side of this planet, shrouded in icy eternal darkness, is believed by those who live on the lit side of the planet to contain nothing but abandoned libraries full of books, in which are written all the stories that were ever told, and which are believed to be the source of all things in existence on the lit side of the planet. From the reader's perspective, they would immediately recognize many of the people and places on the lit side as being related to oral traditions on earth - flying carpets, monstrous sea serpents, big foot, underground societies of lizard-men, succubi, etc.

The impetus of the plot is that a wizard has managed to discover a way to write these books and deposit them on the other side of the planet, thus twisting the very fabric of its reality in so doing. The wizard isn't evil, but he is changing things without people's permission, and that sets off a chain of events that ends in the kidnapping of the wizard's beautiful wife by a crack team of german zeppelin troopers, setting in motion a very Illyiad-like war. One side, fighting against the wizard, wants things to return to the status quo, and to hide the knowledge of book writing away forever. The other side, that of the wizard, believes that nothing can ever be the same again now that the secret is out, and seeks to become dominant so that they can exert full control over the new discovery.

Basically, the book is a vehicle for me to explore the concept of narrative self-determination first examined in At Swim-Two-Birds, while engaging in some truly psychedelic myth mixing, lol

>>6069716
If that's the worst of it, then it's alright.

>>6062420
How about a novel that takes place in actual, literal heaven, with no real downsides, but a bunch of rebels fuck everything up?

>>6069945
I picked a random line of dialogue. You read the fucking thing. It's pretty bad.

>>6070056
so paradise lost, followed by paradise regained?

>>6070106
>>6070106
Then maybe you should read it. He said its for middle grade anyway

>>6046209
Make it a video game instead of a book, you can cram as much worldbuilding into it as you want to :3 Actually, the more the merrier. Additionally, I think video games are the perfect medium for fantasy stories, they just lend themselves to epic scale and lavish environments. Knowwhaddamsayin?

>>6070186
I like it. 8/10 would read

>>6069239
this is shit

>>6071794
This.

>>6069239
is this really?
>>6067363
>>6067637
this guy?

Cmon bro you talk a lot of shit and then don't put up the goods. If this is you i'd say you need to learn the craft of writing before you try and get an agent or editor.

>>6046209
I'd say create all you want. Including what you make is another thing entirely though.

>>6069783
I'm not going to lie. That sounds more meta than I'm usually willing to read, but crazy enough to make an exception. Nigga, I would buy that book. Not pirate. Buy. With Babylon tickets and a receipt that I fold into a bookmark and after I finished reading I'd lend it to a friend and he'd sell it for drugs instead of reading it and insist he gave it back already or never borrowed it and I'd have to cut his throat in his sleep and the blood will be on your hands. Write it.

>>6073110
Hey, thanks! I'm currently stuck trying to finish a sci fi novel about people living on a gas giant and fighting with airship pirates and giant blackwater-esque security corporations at the behest of a scientist of chaos theory, though.

What if I wrote like, a chapter of this and posted it on /lit/, and if folks liked it I could keep posting new chapters every once in a while?

>>6045934
During high school I conceived a neowestern, post-dystopian world. I envisioned a great civilization on the cusp of a new era (spacefaring exploration) that succumbs to a devestating series of events following a singular discovery that lead to its ultimate collapse. I want to write a series that takes place a thousand years after this collapse, combining high concept science fiction with philosophical epic adventure; it would blend cyberpunk, gothic horror, classic adventure, political thriller, and weird fiction to explore a splintered continent teetering between total anarchy and resurgence.

>>6073160
I also envisioned a separate world that I can describe as either "gothic cyberfantasy" or simply "biopunk fantasy". In essence I want to explore a fantasy inspired world grounded in hard science. It would blend hard science fiction with neodystopian high fantasy and Lovecraftian weird fiction.

>>6073160
so basically Cowboy Bebop?

>>6073175
In the basic sense of post-apocalyptic cyberpunk adventure, sure. But it's not an "abandon Earth" scenario and it's much more optimistic than CB. I'm working on the first novel now and I'm confident that the tone is separate from Desert Punk, Cowboy Behop, Dark Tower or Fallout, which are much more pessimistic.

>>6073196
What's your flavor of apocalypse then? Is it anything like what I just read in Gibson's "The Peripheral" ?

>>6045934
I'll probably write an ironic short story at some point.

>Annoyingly pompous paladin gets ordered by human king to kill skeleton king
>He recruits an ugly witch, an archer with a huge ass and a dwarf to join his quest.
>As they mash through the skeleton king's army of undead they absorb the undead filth become increasingly pale and inhuman
>Turns out that the skeleton king is a bro and is containing the world's evil within himself, lest it destroy everyone
>Corrupted paladin kills him and takes the throne of bones for himself, continuing the cycle.

>>6073252
>The Peripheral
I've been wanting to read this, what did you think of it?

The apocalypse is onset by a first contact experience. During the apex of their civilization archeologists make two discoveries, one on icy moon of a gas giant they were mining and the other on their homeworld that confirm the existence of extraterrestrial life. At the same time a rogue alien ship arrives on the homeworld, seemingly in an invasion attempt, but in reality trying to escape from another parasitic species they accidentally discovered. In the resulting chaos the great civilization exhausts its military and many resources to defeat the invaders, which leads to economic ruin, the spread of a extra-terrestrial plague, and then widespread conflict over debilitating resources that lead to a "purge" of life, destroying space programs, reducing the old governments to rubble and leading to centuries of anarchistic separatism until new factions emerge and restore order in parts of the world that are still habitable.

>>6073308
I'm not quite done with it yet. Gibson returns to writing about the future instead of the recent past, but I'm not sure it's better than his books with Cayce Pollard and Blue Ant. It is certainly inventive, I'll give it that, but in some ways the book feels too hollywoodish for gibson, and also too confused about what it's trying to say. Of course I'm not done with it yet, and I get the sense the final few pages of the book are going to have a big reveal because there are several loose threads left open at this point.

What is the point of writing about the archeological discoveries if the aliens are going to show up on their doorstep anyway at the same time?

Extra-terrestrial plagues, without serious forethought, are almost always bad science. Diseases have trouble making use out of biologies not even remotely related to their ideal hosts. Perhaps the plague was used in the war and is a custom-designed bioweapon, or perhaps it is a mutated nano-weapon?

>>6073390
I wanted the downfall to be economic, and exhausting valuable resources to both horde a powerful energy source whilst battling a technologically superior foe that is trying to harness that energy source in order to deal with their own problems seemed interesting enough. I don't mean plague by mechanism, I meant it by widespread scale. Because of what happens, this civilization landing a Pyrrihic victory against the invaders, they are only able to prevent losing their discovery as well as contain this problem to their homeworld without further interference at the cost of their empire. The remaining alien forces lay waste to certain parts of the world and then set up shop in a de facto colony while the rest of the world descends into total chaos fighting with each other. The "humans" end up using what's left of this parasite to kill of the colonists, but the resulting backlash is a weaponized virus that kills off almost everyone, leaving scattered survivors in a wasteland of a world in the parts that haven't been destroyed by nuclear weapons (last resorts to eradicate the parasites). The narrative takes place 750 years after all of this and explores the resurgence of civilization on the least destroyed continent, which inhabits three major powers separated by a central demilitarized zone where independent factions thrive and establish an interconnected economy.

>>6073437
OK, it could be good then. You'd have to write it for us to find out.

>>6073444
First of all, nice trips.

The first book, which I'm working on and will finish before I graduate in three years introduces everything to what I'd like to be a series, but could very well just be a stand alone book. It's 10 novella-length character studies that vary in tone and presentation, from a neo-noir mystery in the functionally ruinous "Free City" (it's this giant, makeshift collection of districts that cultural diffuse everything on the continent each district has its own laws and customs, and the only real enforcement are an independent group of Marshals) to a jedi-inspired Ranger adventure to political thriller, espionage, tribal warfare, and my take on the classic wanderer.

I was obsessed with this idea and >>6073172 so I wrote a shitload of short stories, flash fiction, and general world-building lore papers in high school.

>>6073488
what do you think of mine: >>6069783

>>6073586
I think you're an unoriginal faggot.

>>6073589
why?

>>6073586
I'm >>6073488 and I don't think it's bad, and I understand the criticisms of >>6073589 that it's not very inspired. I think the only way to really do well in genre fiction is to be a proficient enough writer to enjoy success in literary fiction whilst having the imagination to blend many disparate genres together and create a philosophical epic.

Concept s a great place to start but you have to have the mental stamina to execute. Really make that world your own, push it to areas that you can't find anywhere else, and honestly, have good enough taste to take inspiration from the best.

>>6073666
OK, but a good place for me to start would probably be to know what I'm unknowingly copying from. I honestly don't get the complaint that it's not original. Help me understand what's unoriginal about it; I'd like to avoid that.

>>6073691
It's not about copying, it just seems very general, and again, uninspired.

>light vs. dark
>wizard
>Illiad inspired war

what sets the world apart, truly? are there any unique struggles? what's so important about this wizard?

>>6073691
>>6073887
take this to heart, truly. find inspiration from a diverse catalog and make it your own, something that stands apart.

>>6073887
except it's not light vs. dark, it's fucking fantasy so it's going to have magic users, and it's been a long-ass time since anyone wrote fantasy based on the Illiad, AFAIK.

shit, I thought you were going to actually name a book or film or game or something tangible that had elements of my narrative in them. But you have nothing.

>>6073914
Well then write it, jesus, I don't fucking care. If you really feel passionate about what you've come up with then just make it as well as you can.

>>6073914
All fantasy is derived from mythology, and literally every "epic war" is derived from the Illiad.

>>6073930
If it's that general then I don't particularly care if you think it's not original; nothing is.

>>6073923
Nah, I probably won't ever write it anyway, it's just something that floats around in my head from time to time. I just found your criticism a little ridiculous.

>>6073897
That is probably good advice, and not just for me, but I think you have to at least TRY to be somewhat original. One of the reasons I read books is for that feeling of "ooh, I never thought of that before..."

I've always wanted to write this tragic star crossed romance epic based around the myth of Hades and Persephone, but I don't want to expose the romantic side of myself to the world. I have a really hard time being open about those sort of things outwardly in real life, so it would be off putting if someone read this story from me.