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>>5998613
The original feminist.

>>5998613
I started reading the Republic and stopped, because other than for the historical value as a philosophical text it is just a waste of time. It's just Socrates wanking over everyone with pedantry that doesn't follow. The ideas presented as themselves might be somewhat interesting, but the style the book is written in is trying to be analytic and failing horribly. It's just outdate philosophically.

>>5998670
Nonsense. You just haven't realize yet that he got everything right. Everything.

>>5998695
lol anon please. If you actually believe that, you really need to read some more philosophy and stop sucking the Greeks' dick.

>"Blah blah blah blah morality"

>"I agree"

>"Blah blah blah blah education"

>"That is most certainly true"

Why did everyone brown-nose Plato?

>>5998735
Because his dialogues were all made up an he is a Mary sue.

>>5998670
>plebs dont realize plato was aware that some of his arguments were shitty and that he intentionally avoided talking about some of them

>>5998804
Lol, it's worse than that. He projected his views onto Socrates in order to gain legitimacy and just had everyone praise him, except Glaucon because he needs a contrived strawman idiot in order to seem correct.

>>5998707
Plato's the only Greek philosopher I care much for. Philosophy may as well have ended with him.

>>5998985
Yeah plato was all about gaining social status, attention and bitches

>>5999379

Any great man in history is subject of what you just described.

The reason for any mans desire to achieve greatness, is to gain superior consideration by the female subject to their desire.

>/lit/ is always jerking off about the greeks
>shits on plato

explain

>>5999420
It's a meme, you dip.

A couple months ago, the same time I accepted the doctrine of forms>>5999379

No. Max Stirner was. He took humanity to its logical conclusion.

>>5999420
>>/lit/ is always jerking off about the greeks
>>shits on plato
'the greeks' is a whole lot of stuff. Many of their philosophical works are only available in fragmentary or second hand accounts, so we don't even know what exactly they thought, but it seems that for most philosophical positions since, there are one or two greeks who came up with something similar in between oiling up their muscular bodies and chugging curdled goatmilk, or whatever they did.

>>5999420
>2015
>still getting 420
>still dipping and not memeing
>still showering
>not reeking with the Greeks

fukkensavedxD may may stay pleneean

>>5998670

>doesn't know why Plato wrote *dialogues* instead of treatises

>>5998985

Socrates doesn't argue what he thinks in the dialogue; almost the whole argument is in fact effected by what Glaucon and Adeimantus (Plato's brothers, by the way) are interested in. The city in speech needs war and comes to resemble Sparta only because Glaucon says that the city Socrates initially formulated is a city of pigs, lacking luxuries. Careful readings show that this sort of thing happens in all the dialogues multiple times.

you don't have to be a genius to be a philosopher. You just have to have a lot of free time, and a lot of confidence in yourself

>>5998670
>>5998735
The Republic might be too early for you guys. Read Gorgias, it's basically and outcast to The Republic and very short. Also, read the Symposium to get Plato's skills not only as philosopher but as playwright.

If you want to read something very different, read Timaeus and Pheado where he talks about conciousness and cosmology. That shit blows my mind at times, even if I disagree with a bunch. Though you want to get an annotated version, shit gets pretty complicated.

>>5998613
the same day i realized i could choose to follow my lego instructions or just build my own.
ask me when i realized plato wasnt the greatest genius ever.

If he didn't exist another would have came along.

>>6000907
when did u realized plato wasnt the greatest genius ever?

>>5998613
Nope, not even close. He was not even the greatest Greek Genius. In the latter respect Euclid and Archimedes far outshone him.

>>6000274

>just b urself

>>5998613
Plato was a jolly ripping good fellow, and the mate could tell a few roaring nice jokes too, but I prefer Dionysus, whom incidentally I happen to be the reincarnation of

>>6001038
Euclid drew too many circles, pointing to some obvious Freudian imbalance with his mother, and Archimedes, well, you all know what water represents in the subconscious …

>>5999443
Blasphemer.

>>6001038
>tfw archimedes integrated x^2 unwittingly
>tfw i use archimedes to tutor calculus students about integration