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>Why are we obssesed with his?
Because /lit/ is edgy and Nietzsche is the edgiest philosopher.
>Where did he originate from?
Germany.
>Why does he work as both good and evil ( no other Philosophy is this confusing when it comes to alignment)?
He's beyond both of them.

Why would you align him to good or evil

>>5992282
He works with good and bad, not good and evil. Evil is a life-draining principle that fights against the passions. Bad is an assurance man won't degenerate into criminals out of honor.

Good and Evil = New Testament
Good and Bad = Illiad

But of course, Nietzsche doesn't settle with the established "good and bad" (master morality). He establishes a third position beyond all past value systems. An adherent to this position has been called many things throughout his books, such as Overman, Dionysian, and the self-conscious Will to Power

>>5992293
>Because /lit/ is edgy and Nietzsche is the edgiest philosopher.
Nietzsche isn't that edgy. There are far edgier philosophers. Anyway, it's considered edgy by most for the wrong reasons.

>>5992282
>( no other Philosophy is this confusing when it comes to alignment)
ftfy:
>Nietzsche is the only philosopher I know.

>>5992337

True, Nietzsche is not edgy, by far he loves people and wants them to be the best they can be.

>>5992295
because he has a dark evil side and he fought his whole life to keep on the good side

>>5992295
Because the closest he's ever been to reading philosophy was the D&D Dungeon Master Guide.

>>5992349

Who is the edgiest philosopher then?

>>5992477
You're mom

>>5992477
Stirner
Sade

>>5992717
don't feed the troll

>>5992477
Either Stirner or Cioran. But they're continental scum, so fuck them.

>>5992282
Nietzsche literally rejects evil

That's what is meant by the title "Beyond Good and Evil". It's literally going beyond that old, fake dichotomy of morals

Study more

>>5992768
>Study
>Implying he even reads

>>5992744
Bullshit. Artaud, Bataille or Nechayev are far worse in terms of edgyness. I can get why would you consider Stirner edgy, but Cioran is only edgy if you're too dumb to read him.

>>5992792
No one is dumb enough to read continental shills.

>>5992899
>reading
>not leaving it all to science
LMFAO

>>5992282
Could someone explain Nietzsche's pity? Why should pity be rejected, how do we overcome pity? What in modern society exemplifies pity

>>5993618
He is against pity in the sense that he is against feeling sorrow for another person's weakness and suffering. All pity does is increase weakness. He is against anything "womanly" and sees suffering as something to overcome and a way grow stronger in the future. On the other hand, if you are helping someone out of strength, and helping them affirm life without sitting around and being a faggot about it, he is all for compassion, as long as it is joyous compassion.

>>5992321
Nietzsche continues Spinoza's project of the naturalization of the philosophical enterprise. Morality is substituted for an adequate understanding of natural law that leads to enlightened egoism that only affirms, empowers, acts and seems companions who affirm existence as much as oneself.

The key difference lies in methodology (nietzsche's genealogy) and the horizon of man (the limits placed on ones power to act and be acted upon). After Darwin, Nietzsche comes to provide the Spinozan free man with a shifting horizon that can be extended.

>>5993724
Thank you. I'm actually going to finally read the genealogy of morals and birth of tragedy once I'm done with The Corrections and a Sickness unto death

Nietzsche is pretty cool. People will call him edgy and shit, but his philosophy is actually a really joyous way of looking at life.

I only began to appreciate him when I myself began to find joy in life and overcame my fear of my inevitable death

You can say he's joyous all you want butost people don't have a conception of joy that's anything lime Nietzsche's ramblings and they're probably better off for it, really all you're doing is taking him at his word and not questioning him.

>>5994246
Here is a good lecture that covers The Genealogy of Morals. It is probably the best place to start: http://youtu.be/2fTnEB_r_6Q

I would recommend reading The Birth of Tragedy after everything else. A good first book to get is The Portable Nietzsche translated by Walter Kaufmann. Zarathustra is the most difficult work in that collection but it might be okay to read if you're willing to come back to it later. It doesn't contain Genealogy so maybe you would be better off getting Basic Writings of Nietzsche also translated by Kaufmann. It also has The Birth of Tragedy. Portable has more interesting works though, like The Antichrist.

All I heard about him was that he was a nihilist who hated God, is this true?

I'm reading Spengler Oswald and he BTFO's nietzsche and his view on the greeks

>>5994308
You're an okay guy tripman. I will take your recommendations. I already own the Doubleday anchor edition of birth of tragedy and genealogy of morals (bought at the christian thrift shop haha) is this a good edition or should I completely forego it?

>>5994500
Unless you're broke, avoid that translation.

>>5994594
What are the best translations? Apparently the Barnes and noble thus spoke Zarathustra is pretty well.

>>5994999
Cambridge has been doing new translations. Their Zarathustra (Del Caro) is the best. I've heard mixed things about their others. Kaufman/Hollingdale are usually safe choices.

>>5994594
whats wrong with it? it's the one i read, didn't seem too bad

>>5994269
Joy is the movement from a lesser to a great state of perfection. Perfection is reality. The reality of a thing is the thing conceived through itself. Conceiving a thing through itself leads us to the conclusion that the essence of a thing is for it to strive to exist, to act and be acted upon in a fixed ratio of capacity/power. Joy is an affirmation of the Will to Power.

>>5994352
Yeah pretty much

>>5993618
Pity is a feeling derived from a lack of power, a sadness. Such passions lead to a denial, not an affirmation of our ability to act. Anything that goes against an affirmation of our power, of our existence is life denying and against our nature.

When faced with a man of lesser power, one should be driven to act, rather than passively feel, and aid the other to affirm their own power and existence so that one's own power and existence can be that much greater.

Pity can lead us to do things which have the same affect as aiding the other through an affirmative dispostion, but open us to a world of passions, of being driven about by the external changes.

>>5994237
>The key difference lies in methodology (nietzsche's genealogy) and the horizon of man (the limits placed on ones power to act and be acted upon). After Darwin, Nietzsche comes to provide the Spinozan free man with a shifting horizon that can be extended.
N. does not like Darwin at all btw