/lit/ - Literature

>>5977249
It's like he sat there sharpening his fingers and then sharpened his keyboard and wrote it with a knife.

>>5977249
It's from the mind of a character who actually murders people, keep that in mind.

>>5977260
Well he still doesn't need to be a mallgoth about it.

>>5977260
>implying murder isn't as edgy as all get out

>>5977249
its kind of an edgy book.
aslo kinda the point.

>>5977249
And what is your point? It's a fucking book. Relax.

>>5977277
It is mediocrity, if anything.

>>5977249
Friendly reminder that American Psycho is pleb-tier and is only popular because
>muh shock value
>muh anti Wall Street

>>5977282
You are an actual troglodyte if you think that's what the book is about.

>>5977249
It's relatable when you have a personality disorder that makes you intensely emotional like me.

I am extremely envious.

The whole passage oozes of edge:

…there is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, but there is no real me, only an entity, something illusory, and though I can hide my cold gaze and you can shake my hand and feel flesh gripping yours and maybe you can even sense our lifestyles are probably comparable: I simply am not there. It is hard for me to make sense on any given level. Myself is fabricated, an aberration. I am a noncontingent human being. My personality is sketchy and unformed, my heartlessness goes deep and is persistent. My conscience, my pity, my hopes disappeared a long time ago (probably at Harvard) if they ever did exist. There are no more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have caused and my utter indifference toward it, I have now surpassed. I still, though, hold on to one single bleak truth: no one is safe, nothing is redeemed. Yet I am blameless. Each model of human behavior must be assumed to have some validity. Is evil something you are? Or is it something you do?

It's enjoyable trash.

>>5977249
he's a psychopath who murders people you fucking autist

>>5977281
The character wants to inflict pain on everyone. How would you have written it, since you're so much better than him?

>>5977260
This, its only edge if you aren't sincere about it. He isn't just writing it on a knifes and roses forum, he is thinking it or saying it to himself.

>>5977299
not in a fucking edgy way, I would make it sounds fucking cool like a guy who doesn't give any fucks and just kills so others can feel his pain.

An edgy sentence from an edgy book by an edgy writer for edgy teens.

>>5977282
so its entry level and popular?
I might at well check it out then

>>5977309
I was feeling really depressed until I read this, you make me feel better about myself. You're the kinda guy people keep around to boost their own self esteem.

>>5977288
No, see I thought up until that line it was a decent diatribe.

anyone remember this?

http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/norm-macdonald-bret-easton-ellis/

imagine being such a shit writer that norm macdonald buttdemolishes you over twitter

Still not as edgy as this book.

>>5977325
that came to mind as soon as i read the op

it is an edgy line, op, but it's a good one and suits the character and tone.

>>5977325
Edgy before it was cool.

>>5977284
Not the guy you're replying to, but what do you think it's about?

Anyone else feel bad for Patrick Bateman? He's so clearly alienated despite being included and he shows little glimmers of actually genuinely caring for humanity, but then lapses into his psychotic state of mind.

>>5977309
Riiiiiiiiiight.

>>5977337
Loss of individuality and control in the modern world.

>>5977292

Only in his mind.

What I always wondered is would he be the same if he was born in Rome or some rural area in the 16th century? Is the city and the modern world what drove his psychotic tendencies to the point of serial murder?

>>5977350

it's actually about a man that kills people. pay attention next time.

>>5977341
I feel bad for him up until he starts targeting and murdering people.

>>5977305
>>5977260
these

>2015
>anon still doesn't know what edgy means

Edgyness is when a teenager who would never do anything his parents disapprove of posts about the darkness cunsuming his soul on an internet forum, not even realizing that he's just parroting something he picked up from watching too many chinese cartoons. In the context of fiction, these kinds of statements a character makes about their 'dark side' can be edgy when words are clearly being put into their mouths for the sake of controversy or appeal to a specific audience, eventhough they aren't justified.

>>5977399
>it's actually about a man that kills people

in his head

>>5977341
>gf is a gold digger and adulterer
>best friend is a pompous ass and addict
>daddy was an ass and is only reason you have job
>no one recognizes you even though you know everyone
>those that do recognize you think you're a dork or a spaz
>women only see you as a sexual object or source of wealth
>your videotapes are overdue

I can't help but sympathize with Christian Bale

>>5977323
But Norm is a writer - a writer of jokes, not literature

How good is this book? I'm at the library and I'm not sure if I should check it

>>5977445
Sounds like a good description of BEE.

>>5977456
>Roast-tier comedian talks shit to a pleb-tier writer in 140 characters
Yawn

>>5977456

norm has a book coming out, I think it's a memoir but I have high hopes considering his list of influences.

>>5977489

pretty sure he only ever did one roast. his stand up special is one of the best of all time. joke after joke on death, murder, and cancer.

>>5977500
>he only did one roast
One is all it takes. Next he'll be hosting a podcast.

>>5977511

good point.

>anything with substance that is actually creative is edgy
American Psycho is one of the best books of the last century.

>>5977528

>>5977489
just shows you how much people respect comedy.

>>5977511

To be fair he didn't seem like he wanted to be there at all and was shitting out horrible dad joke humor the whole time.

>>5977387
If he was born in a position of prominence in a more ancient society he would probably be the male equivalent of Elizabeth Bathory.

>>5977539

he was subverting the concept of a roast. instead of standing up and doing edgy "oh yeah I went there" comedy he just told some old jokes.

>>5977528
Ok

>>5977534
You mean respected, as in past tense? Comedy became a hack sport once Netflix got its claws into it.

>it's edgy therefore nobody really thinks like this

>>5977549

comedy became a hack sport w/ carlin and hicks. it would have been w/ lenny bruce if he didn't die in obscurity.

>modern comedy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiajbgY6ofU

>>5977553
Fair enough, but Netflix specials are still awful. Some of those hacks should be left in obscurity.

>>5977561
TELL IT TO MY BALLS

http://youtu.be/_hwfr3zwv1Y

>>5977561
This is pretty dank.

Let me throw out this recommendation-post, just in case someone is interested.

>Start with less than zero if you want to see a single, passive protagonist stand by idely and watch as the people around him do one horrible thing after another.
Or
>Start with rules of attraction for multiple protagonists. The stories are intertwined, but everyone's stuck in their own disconnected reality.

>Continue with American Psycho. I suggest you listen to the audiobook, since the pages of item descriptions are tiring to read, but actually kind of meditative when they're being read to you.
>Now it's time for Lunar Park, Bret Easton Ellis' true autobiography. >implying Seriously though. It's his best book by far, especially if you're familiar with his other works.

I haven't read imperial bedrooms yet, so I don't know whether it's worth a recommendation.

>>5977663

his show review for comedy central is pretty funny

Whenever I see people call things edgy I imagine they're the same people obsessing over trannies and posting about their plans to transition while posting anime girl pics. I don't think it's far from the mark.

>>5977695
u remedial, dog

>>5977456
No wonder lit being the top fedora board eats up munro and her unoriginal, boring and overrated feminist agenda

>>5977806
No one talks about Munro on here.

>>5977249
if you cant distinguish between writer taking on an edgy persona and writer being edgy then maybe literature isnt for you :(

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/10/american-psycho-bret-easton-ellis-irvine-welsh

>Irvine Welsh
He's good for a Scot. Ecstasy was a shit book, though.

>>5977561
Till about the two-minute mark, I thought they were laughing at him and not with him.

>>5977830
The problem is with the way those specific lines are written not the novel or character at large you pompous cock.

>>5977561
i understand this video is supposed to be a parody of formulaic stand up comedy or something, but the joke wears pretty thin pretty quickly doesn't it? is this a character he rolls out very frequently?

>>5977941

Nah, as far as I know that was a one off. Dude has a billion characters that are actually good, check out his appearances on the Comedy Bang! Bang! podcast if you like it.

>>5977447
This

>>5977898
but the character is supposed to be edgy. wouldn't you make an edgy narrator write things that are edgy?

>>5978737
Not edgy like a pissed off 12 year old emo kid

The passage itself is perfectly acceptable, but when you get to those lines it withdraws from Patrick's relaying of his inhumanity and seems more fitting for a Slipknot song. It also departs from his characterization as throughout the novel he isn't painted as a sort of misanthropic FUCK DA WURLD simpleton but rather an empty shell of a man who is constantly wrestling with his inner demons.

>>5977830
This is true, but Ellis himself is an edgy tryhard.

>>5977447
kek have you even read it?

i struggled to finish it. the second half of the book honestly disturbed me...i didn t want to be in Bateman's mind anymore.

>>5978861

but he is a just a misanthropic FUCK DA WURLD character, only it's obfuscated by his material wealth, education, and seeming aesthetic sophistication. inside he's just a fucking slipknot fan piece of shit. that's partly the trick of his character.

most super successful sociopaths and psychopaths are like this. see: ted bundy.

>>5977260
>murder isn't edgy

>>5979056
once you go through with the act it's no longer 'edgy'. 'edgy' implies affected behavior to try to seem dangerous. talking about what you'd do in dangerous situations you've never been in, slightly cutting one's self while saying you're planning suicide etc. edgy is talk

That line reminds me of that yearbook with the Asian kid saying something about not just succeeding, but wanting to see others fail, or something.

>book is called american PSYCHO
>WOW WHY IS THIS SO EDGY

>tfw this book has to be shrink-wrapped for sale and is only available to 18+s in your country

>book is called AMERICAN psycho
>WOW WHY IS THIS SO EDGY