/lit/ - Literature

i dont think anyone here likes sartre

Thx 4 u sharing op is good post good poster u should post good post things more here

very noice ;))

>>5971732
s4s has a board culture?

>>5971732
Yes. Lit grad student, read widely, independent research in the field. While I rec female and contemporary authors very often, I also post my bookshelf lots.

Married, make OOP books available to others online, buy my own and use the library almost excessively. I both work and volunteer with things related to books. No real opinion on DFW or Sartre.

>>5971732
why should i financially support authors who have been dead for centuries?

>>5971824
That side of the table also reads contemporary. Contemporary authors are rarely dead.

Assuming you read any translations, the translators do also need to paid.

>>5971732

Isn't /s4s/ just a meme graveyard?

I don't like how you're trying to trojan horse your ideology (what is surely going to be feminism and Marxism) into my board.

>>5971889
No, that's /lit/

Looks like you really do need to Learn the Difference

i have an english degree with a writing emphasis but i have no desire to be around anyone that self identifies as "patrician". they're boring as fuck.

>>5971893
it's actually discussions with textual examples.

>>5971821

>2015
>wasting time with grad school
>does not even pay off

why aren't you an autodidact?

>>5971911
I've never met anyone who self-identified as "patrician".

My name is Patricio. When I introduce myself, I go "Hola, yo soy Patricio". If you translate that into english, treating "Patricio" not as a proper noun but as an adjective (which it is, btw) then you get me saying "Hi, I'm patrician" all the time.

I don't think that's very accurate. None of it is true for me or my friends who use /lit/. We're all Oxbridge students. At least two people I know on /lit/ attended Eton and one attended Harrow. There are a few actual patricians on here.

>>5971966
>I'm not a pleb, h-honest

Nice try

Nicer digits

No

>>5971732
>reads women authors
and into the trash it goes

>>5972029
>disregarding the Bronte sister, Katherine Philips, Virginia Woolf
Fucking pleb

Does /s4s/ posters just sit there making these all day? There's loads of them.

>>5971732

>"NEET": Not in Education, Employment, or Training
>Failing community college
>NEET

kek

why is /s4s/ represented by a psychopathic serial killer?

JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON JOHN MILTON

>>5971934
I swear more than half of this board unironically uses the word "patrician" but maybe there are so many layers of irony behind such usage that it goes beyond my head.

>>5972159
/s4s/ is the official dubs board.

>>5972167
yahwaeiou

>>5972167
>Paradife Loft

Milton must have had a serious lisp.

>>5971889
[s4s] is reddit's answer to ylilauta

No. I read nothing but fantasy and scifi. I read for pure entertainment and the plot rather than any attempt at bettering myself or my understanding of the world.

I just don't give a fuck. I am what I am, life's too short to worry about it. Have fun, get laid, die. You're going to be forgotten no matter who you are, no matter what you do, the only difference is how long that takes, but it still happens in the end.

>>5972247
>read scifi and fantasy
>get laid

These are mutually exclusive.

>>5972247
>read nothing but fantasy and scifi
>get laid

lol

>>5972257
>>5972258
I didn't mean me personally, chaps.

>>5972167
>>5972226

>be andrew marvell
>have written some very good, dark poems about a figure called "the mower"
>be good friends with milton, whom i consider an absolute bawler, a primo poet
>letter arrives from him one day
>nearly unreadable
>looks like it was written by john donne's retarded offspring
>decipher "hi marvell, come over to my house"
>the rest is just random references to scripture
>go to milton's crib
>nigga turned blind
>sblood.flaxscroll
>he asks me to help him get his new work down
>epic long poem about the fall of man
>why-was-i-not-so-divinely-inspired.faircopy
>agree to help
>much excitement ensues
>get out quill and ink, only the most finely crafted paper
>here we go
>my genius friend begins his epic
>"the title... paradife loft"
>look at him
>his blind eyes going all over the place
>my year long friend has clearly lost his mind
>mfw this is gonna be a 10.000 line epic about a loft
>mfw the main character's name is retarded
>fatan

>>5972316
>fatan
Lost it

>>5972316
8/10

>>5971772
I do, but ironically.

>>5971921
I am an autodidact with most things. It's not like I'm going to grad school for every interest I have.

And it's kind of necessary if you want to be a professor.

This Merleau-Ponty bloke seems alright.

>>5972316

>>5972167
is this the new
DAVID
FOSTER
WALLACE

>>5971732
>>5971843
I don't understand these meme at all.

Is it just supposed to be funny because the left side is true of neither board, and the right side is true of both?

Is that all?

>>5972316
not that funny. And yes, I 'get it'

>let type set face.tiff

>>5972316
Oh fuck I lost it

None of you are patrician, you browse 4chan regularly so you're automatically not one. And since you all are so worried about what's patrician and what's not than you are definitely pleb, just slightly more informed than your average pleb. And naturally you don't start hitting patrician-hood until you're at least 40. Pic related is what an actual patrician looks like. So if you're on here right now and unironically think you're patrician kill yourself

s4s has probably the least funny people on this site

>>5972316
11/10

>>5973143
>I'm underage

Back to >>>/reddit/, kid

>>5973459
How has gnosticism become a meme? Especially the green pill/iron pill shit, it's like being an edgy atheist wasn't hip enough for these people so they went retard in the opposite direction.

>>5973488
rude

Patrick Bateman is hardly a good representation of depth, he's the incarnation of worshiping the superficial without any regard for people or deeper meaning.

>>5973488
>it's like being an edgy atheist wasn't hip enough for these people so they went retard in the opposite direction

Hellenismos thread?
Hellenismos thread.

>>5973488
these bleeding edgemeisters who the heck do they think they are posting about things and stuff

nice dubs btw :^)

>>5973561
Gnosticism meme (especially the pills) grew out of /x/, the Hellenismos meme grew out of this here board.

>>5973551
Who's Patrick Bateman? This is a thread about le dubs man.

>>5972316
>why-was-i-not-so-divinely-inspired.faircopy

kek

>>5972226
What if the reason they wrote like that is because that's what everyone sounded like back then?

>>5971732
Make no mistake: irony tyrannizes us.
Irony and cynicism were just what the U.S. hypocrisy of the fifties and sixties called for. That’s what made the early postmodernists great artists. The great thing about irony is that it splits things apart, gets up above them so we can see the flaws and hypocrisies and duplicates. The virtuous always triumph? Ward Cleaver is the prototypical fifties father? “Sure.” Sarcasm, parody, absurdism and irony are great ways to strip off stuff’s mask and show the unpleasant reality behind it. The problem is that once the rules of art are debunked, and once the unpleasant realities the irony diagnoses are revealed and diagnosed, “then” what do we do?
Irony’s useful for debunking illusions, but most of the illusion-debunking in the U.S. has now been done and redone. Once everybody knows that equality of opportunity is bunk and Mike Brady’s bunk and Just Say No is bunk, now what do we do? All we seem to want to do is keep ridiculing the stuff. Postmodern irony and cynicism’s become an end in itself, a measure of hip sophistication and literary savvy. Few artists dare to try to talk about ways of working toward redeeming what’s wrong, because they’ll look sentimental and naive to all the weary ironists. Irony’s gone from liberating to enslaving. There’s some great essay somewhere that has a line about irony being the song of the prisoner who’s come to love his cage.

>>5974154
The problem is that, however misprised it’s been, what’s been passed down from the postmodern heyday is sarcasm, cynicism, a manic ennui, suspicion of all authority, suspicion of all constraints on conduct, and a terrible penchant for ironic diagnosis of unpleasantness instead of an ambition not just to diagnose and ridicule but to redeem. You’ve got to understand that this stuff has permeated the culture. It’s become our language; we’re so in it we don’t even see that it’s one perspective, one among many possible ways of seeing. Postmodern irony’s become our environment.
All U.S. irony is based on an implicit "I don't really mean what I say." So what does irony as a cultural norm mean to say? That it's impossible to mean what you say? That maybe it's too bad it's impossible, but wake up and smell the coffee already? Most likely, I think, today's irony ends up saying: "How very banal to ask what I mean." Anyone with the heretical gall to ask an ironist what he actually stands for ends up looking like a hysteric or a prig. And herein lies the oppressiveness of institutionalized irony, the too-successful rebel: the ability to interdict the question without attending to its content is tyranny. It is the new junta, using the very tool that exposed its enemy to insulate itself.

>>5974160
The next real literary "rebels" in this country might well emerge as some weird bunch of anti-rebels, born oglers who dare somehow to back away from ironic watching, who have the childish gall actually to endorse and instantiate single-entendre principles. Who treat of plain old untrendy human troubles and emotions in U.S. life with reverence and conviction. Who eschew self-consciousness and hip fatigue. These anti-rebels would be outdated, of course, before they even started. Dead on the page. Too sincere. Clearly repressed. Backward, quaint, naïve, anachronistic. Maybe that'll be the point. Maybe that's why they'll be the next real rebels.
Real rebels, as far as I can see, risk disapproval. The old postmodern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal: shock, disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anarchism, nihilism. Today’s risks are different. The new rebels might be artists willing to risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the “Oh how banal.” To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity. Of softness. Of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and starers who fear gaze and ridicule above imprisonment without law. Who knows.