/lit/ - Literature

>>5949377
Yeah.

Getting a script made into a film is 100x harder than getting a book published. Unless you plan on backing the production yourself.

And once someone does buy your script they give you the boot from the production and the studio is free to do with it as they please. They can completely rewrite it, or they can just put the script in limbo and refuse to make it because they're uncertain of its profitability, but refuse to give it back to you because they don't want others to make a profit off of it.

tl;dr: learn to write a novel.

keep to the five act structure

get out of the way let the script write itself

never write sober do a lot of coke

>>5949405
OP here. My ambitions are low budget movies. Not thinking of industry-worth projects, just movies that people have to think to understand.

Don't write emotions, only actions. If it can't be seen you don't write it, it doesn't exist for you.
Write in persent tense, it helps imagine it as something that's happening in front of you.
Dialogue is 3cm in from each side. Justify everything except the name in the dialogue.
Avoid more than two lines of dialogue without description in the middle.
The general rule, if you're doing it right, is one page one minute. Keep that in consideration.

>>5949412
Then find a way to finance your own movies or find work at a place that turns out shit.

>thinking about screenplay idea
>weeks pass
>start writing
>on fire
>realise protagonist and antagonist want the same thing
>whoops

>>5949440
That is awesome!

I think if you can manage it well, it can be the source of greater conflict instead of agreement.

Keep working on it.

>>5949429
stop posting this Manga

Don't forget the plot. It sounds dumb, but that's how idiotic films like Dark Knight Rises get made: all the concern goes into the lines and cleverness of the philosophy, while every piece of action requires the audience to use a heavy block and tackle to suspend disbelief because the screenwriter kept saying, "this scene HAS to happen, and here and now, because it fits my vision, even though it's totally absurd and doesn't serve my plot at all." Have your friends check for deus ex machinitis.

>>5949462
I've been doing it for a year at least, what made it enough for you?
Hibari is just way cuter and more natural than other traps.

>>5949469
Isn't deus ex machinitis a good thing? The greeks did it.

>>5949564
The Greeks at least made deities major characters in the play, so the miracles weren't just stupid coincidence, but the act of a character. They weren't just stupid acts of lazy writing.

Having Bruce Wayne crawl out of a pit in the desert and reappear effortlessly in a besieged city that is cut off from the world, without the slightest indication of how he got there, is stupid. Having giant flaming bat-shapes that would have taken him long hours of work to rig up is stupid. Having him somehow know exactly where and when someone forced onto ice would have it break under them is stupid. Having an entire kidnapping plan hinge on FBI agents taking a strange man on their plane without bothering to take his hood off is stupid. Assuming nobody would wonder why a downed FBI plane's wings were a hundred miles from the rest of the wreckage is stupid. Having the entire police force run underground at once so they can be trapped is stupid. You see? We can do this all day. Just try to make your plot plausible and don't insult your audience's intelligence.

>>5949429
>Don't write emotions, only actions. If it can't be seen you don't write it, it doesn't exist for you.
Following your logic, one can't write about how something smells or how cold/hot it is.

>>5949455
I wrote that wrongly. I meant to say the protagonist and antagonist want the same thing to happen. They may as well hold hands and dance.

>>5950757
yeah its not always true: Case in point: Black Swan screenplay. Its well written and includes characters emotional responses so everyone's clear.

>>5951187
Why don't they?

>>5949377
Suspension: the plot should unfold with tension and be efficient.

the inevitable surprise: stuff happens and the viewer is surprised in the moment. Once the film is done they realise it couldn't have happened any other way.

Most if not all scenes should include inner or outer conflict, and further character and plot and theme.

The protagonist should change and become better through overcoming struggles toward their goal.

'Make every scene a trailer moment' - guy who wrote American Pie

>>5951207
because movie would be over in 2 minutes. Though maybe they could ; its a comedy after all

>>5951195
Because it was written with the budget to find the right actress and the writer was the director. Tarantino writes scripts that are almosta general idea at points, lots of content never comes out of it. I think it was Bresson who straight out didn't write direct dialogue. He just wrote "they discuss the situation and decide X" and improvised in the spot.

When someone asks for general advice you give genereal ideas. Of course people will be successfull doing other things too.

I'll just leave this here:

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/08/a-simple-way-to-create-suspense/?_r=0

>>5949440
>realise protagonist and antagonist want the same thing
>whoops

I've seen plenty of movies and TV-episodes like that, and it being fucking stupid never stopped anybody.

>>5951923
Did you just write that all hoping no one would notice? You're an idiot, don't write stuff here.

>>5951241
If I was you I'd try and obscure the intentions of the antagonist and subtly hint they want the same things. Then during the climax have them agree and both be quite annoyed.

>>5949429
>Don't write emotions, only actions. If it can't be seen you don't write it, it doesn't exist for you.
There's some degree of truth to this. You're writing the blueprint for a film. Film is a visual art. Focus on what the audience sees (and hears).

>>5949405

Do you work in the industry?

I turn my notes and ideas into a short story before writing it as a screenplay, helps me formulate things more coherently

>>5953434
That's a good idea but may not work in this case. Also an end like that might be a bit of a let down 'is that it?' rather than hilarious.