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How do I into linguistics? I feel like if I understand linguistics I'll begin to understand everything.

>> No.5938769

>>5938760
Bertrand Russel, Noam Chomsky, WVO Quine, the list could go on...

>> No.5938775

>>5938769
I've been reading a lot of Chomsky's essays all of them political though. Where do I start with his linguistic work?

>> No.5938822

>>5938769
analytic philosophy has nothing to do with linguistics you fucking pleb. Linguistics is a branch of anthropology, not philosophy. As for OP just get Syntastic Structures by Chomsky, but you should probably start with Saussure since he started linguistics.

>> No.5938858

>>5938822
Nice digits thank you very much.

>> No.5939649

Sassure obvisly

>> No.5939653

>>5938760
a textbook

>> No.5939660

>>5938760
Derrida
Strauss
Sassure
Todorov
I use to think linguistics was the key to everything, but linguistics is really only the structure of language and how language can create meaning, it doesn't necessarily teach different languages

>> No.5939672

>>5938760
Jean-Jacques Rosseau

>> No.5939673

>>5939672
I am only familiar with Rousseau's social contract, where would I find his best linguistic work?

>> No.5939697

>>5939649
so sure, eh?

>> No.5939734

One of the best books I read last year was a general outline of what linguistics is. The Unfolding of Language: An Evolutionary Tour of Mankind's Greatest Invention.

Do not start with Saussure. Linguistics is a science and has changed a lot since he first developed his ideas.

>> No.5939757

Marx

>> No.5939784

its all just memes man. Thats all language is.

>How do I into
perfect example. no one combined those words like that until 4chan, and it caught on, spread, and became an accepted grammatical phrase. a meme.

bam, linguistics.

>> No.5939792

>>5939784
>no one combined those words like that until 4chan
doubt

>> No.5939803

Jesus, just give him a handbook or something. Like George Yule's 101.

>> No.5939810

>>5939792
obviously I meant in a way where others could understood.

language is a method of communication. If there is no shared, accepted meaning, it is worthless.

hoofkek zee trauden kaka neepo till zeezeewa?

>> No.5939824

>>5939810
language is a phat circum
-- chomsly

>> No.5939829

>>5939810
is finnegans wake worthless?

>> No.5939836

>>5939829
absolutely yes
it's not a beautiful symbolic manifesto, it's not the main boss of literature

it's The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra

>> No.5939851

>>5939836
you could argue The Legacy of Totalitarianism in a Tundra has more symbolism and shared meaning because at least a small amount of people would be able to understand the language, wheres only Joyce knew what he was saying (possibly)

>> No.5939874

>>5939851
>>5939836
>>5939829
stop

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5940012

>>5938769
lmao what are you doing

>>5939697
chaussure ;)

>> No.5940105

>>5938760
go to a university book-store and ask the clerk which book on whatever-language-linguistics is ordered the most/in huge quantities at once, order it as well, read through it.
alternatively, sneak into courses somewhere in the back rows

>> No.5940123

>>5938760
This book and the little workbook that go along with it are a great foundation
https://books.google.com/books?id=jlAdAQAAIAAJ&q=history+of+the+english+language+fifth+ed&dq=history+of+the+english+language+fifth+ed&hl=en&sa=X&ei=J4umVIT3F5XXoATj-oHADA&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAQ

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5940126

I'm currently reading Syntax by Andrew Carnie

Pretty solid textbook for an introduction but at the same time I'm in the same boat as you so maybe there are better one's out there I'm not aware of.

>> No.5940262

Is Linguistics at uni a good investment if I want to work overseas?

>> No.5940461

>>5940262
>Syntax by Andrew Carnie

My cousin has a PhD in Linguistics (and does speak numerous languages 10+), while he has lived and worked overseas he gets paid pretty poorly ~70k a year.

Linguistics in a science department + computer science is a highly desirable double from what I understand.

>> No.5940486

>>5940461
>My cousin has a PhD in Linguistics (and does speak numerous languages 10+)

linguistics isn't about learning languages...it's about how language works.

>> No.5940493

I think what you really want to do is look into semiotics.

>> No.5940521

>>5938760
In 18th century there was a famous debate about the origin of language. Rousseau, Condillac and Herder have each devoted a whole work just to that problem. It's one of the historical places that prepares the linguistic turn.

>> No.5940667

>>5940486
I realize this. That's why I included the extra information about the fact he also talks numerous language. A lot of linguists a bilingual, the same sense a lot of sports science student are also sportsmen.