/lit/ - Literature

nah

The thread would, in other words, be for questions that don't deserve their own thread. And if the thread gets stickied at the top then that would probably guarantee higher traffic in the thread so more people would get their questions answered. And yes, this is a self-bump

>>5902278
what is that portrait and is there anymore like this and the one I'm posting ?

>>5902288
shit idea

>>5902291
I don't recall the proper name but that is Dante Alighieri and Virgil walking through Cocytus. The image is a version of a woodcut from Gustave Doré.

>>5902291
I got it from an art thread that was posted on here. This pic is from the same thread.

>>5902310
I think it was called "The Ninth Circle" or something.

>>5902293
Care to explain why it's a shit idea rather than just dismissing it?

>>5902291
Sorry, also meant to mention that if you google Francisco Goya you'll find more like the one you posted, which is titled Saturn devouring his son.

>>5902291
The pic you posted is saturn devoring his sons by Goya. If you check his dark paintings you'll get a pretty similar vibe.

>>5902311
Another painting if anyone is interested.

>>5902291
Sorry, also meant to mention that if you google Francisco Goya you'll find more like the one you posted, which is titled Saturn devouring his son.

>>5902316
Cocytus makes up the ninth circle of hell so that would be correct. The image depicts Dante and Virgil on their way to see the devil. The people in the ice are guilty of traitorous and complex fraudulent acts. The deeper in the ice, the worse their sins. Judas, Cain, Brutus, and Cassius are some of the more well known sinners in this area.

>>5902310
virgil watches those pleb sinners like a real patrician

>>5902330
they watch how count ugolyno gnaws archbishop ruggieri

>>5902331
Lol, I really like Virgil in the game and the animated version.

>>5902278
A friend brought this for me
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Metamorphoses-Publius-Ovidius-Naso-Ovid/dp/0714543314/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1419435298&sr=1-1&keywords=ovid+metamorphoses+rolfe

How is the Rolfe Humphries translation?

Does lit have any opinion on Evangelion?
My only knowledge about it is that it's controversial and was plagued with production problems. I only ask you guys because I trust your opinion on more """intellectual""" works.

>>5902488
I didn't think it was that great. I think it's "deep" for an anime but I haven't watched much so I can't say for sure.

I'd say watch it just to see what all the hype was about.

>>5902488
It's the best Animated Manchurian Fresco Sequence I've ever seen. Pretty good, 9/10 would watch again. It's quality isn't very consistent, though. It starts good, then goes somewhat downhill and becomes a more generic Giant Japanese Robot show, but then the ending comes and it's amazing. Give it a try, see if you like it.

>>5902499
what do real anime fans think of miyazaki? it's the only anime I've seen

>>5902501
/a/ hates him. he's moved beyond the anime culture and has a clear contempt for otakus. Aesthetically his films are gorgeous but he doesn't really know how to resolve a story. I still love him though.

>>5902488
Its great if you have studied gnosticism and christianity

>>5902515
>gnosticism
WHY IS IT ALWAYS GNOSTICISM.

>>5902515
gnostics are fools

>reading a book
>encounter lines that are song lyrics
>"but I don't know how it should be rhymed, tone, etc."
>what do?

>>5902291
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Kitty has it right. >>5902339
This was, in my opinion, the most important scene in the latter half of the Inferno. I don't know much about painting, but I know a great deal about the Divine Comedy. That's Count Ugolino chomping on Archbishop Ruggieri's brains.

It's the first (and last) time in the poem that Dante asks a soul for an explanation of his sins, but instead of explaining why he is in hell, Ugolino tells Dante the story of his execution at the hands of the archbishop. Basically, the story runs thus:

Ugolino was a Ghibelline, corrupted to become a Ghelf until the Ghib's gained power again and he switched sides. For his traitorous ways and his corruption, Archbishop Ruggieri condemns he and his sons to death. This is background information that isn't actually in the Inferno, just stuff Dante expected everyone reading to know. Ugolino beings his story post-condemnation. He and his sons are condemned to die by starvation, locked in a tower. To put it short, Ug's children offer themselves to be eaten by Ug, and they weep at him. He responds without emotion, and it's left up in the air whether or not he ate them, until finally "fasting had more power than grief," and the story ends.

This is probably my favorite story in literature. I can upload some papers that I wrote about it as an undergrad if anyone is interested, or if anyone has questions/comments I'd love to discuss it.

>>5902536
just apply any lyric to the tune of 'tiptoe through the tulips' by tiny tim

What else would we have?

>>5902534
Manicheanism is the ingenious inversion of Christian metaphysics. It is absolutely perfectly Satanic: Man is trapped by the evil controlling demiurge (God) behind a veil of darkness. Life's mission is to see enlightenment and break the chains and restrains of the false system.

This is the dominant metaphysic of the modern age in which people believe they are being moral and spiritual beings by rejecting all restraint and looking inward for their own truth while they curse God and "false religion".

Satan appears as a beautify angel of light. False light.

>>5902536
Pynchon?

Songs give Pynchon's novels a bit of character.

Pleb question but what are modernist writers actually trying to do?

Like it seems to me that they push language to its limits and think that any idea can be lucid and understandable no matter how complicated it is (i.e finnigans wake).

Is that correct?

My question is, what exactly is, the basics of, Hegel's philosophy? All I know is master/slave dialectic and general Napoleon-wanking but it seems like certain schools of philosophy are derived from Hegel's work, so I'm wondering.

>>5904811
I remember reading about this in the Confessions, though I'm sure Gnostics have some response.

>>5902488
Very interesting stuff; for me the series invokes many Deleuzian 'history of cinema' terms in its motifs and symbols. Most fans try to disregard the Christian imagery citing directorial intent; it's far less interesting if you do this.

What are some reasons to live? What advantage does being alive have over being dead?

What the fuck is post modernism

>>5905069
It is the point at which someone should have stopped posting but did not stop posting.

>>5902537
>I can upload some papers that I wrote about it as an undergrad if anyone is interested
Please, please do.

>>5905082
But what exactly did they post?

>>5902488
It's centered around depression, nihilism, suicide, PTSD, and things like that. It's got a very strong style and means a lot to a lot of people. To me, ultimately, it was pretty boring most of the time.

I watched it four years ago, though. Maybe I will re-watch it someday.

>>5905109

Modernism