/lit/ - Literature

Mens sana in corpore sano

I think its important to your mental health to stay fit

live a more fulfilling life? exercise in general clears your head and gives you a fresher, more optimistic perspective on life. Being fit is something you have to put in effort for, something other people admire. It's an accomplishment for you to feel good about and to show people that you are hard-working

exercise for courage and spirit, which is a fundamental virtue.

>>5839695
I don't see how courage applies

>running sprints 5 times a week, started 2 years ago and already can run 100m under 11.5 seconds
>reading Plato - The republic and some texts by Schopenhauer atm.


Never felt this good in my whole life. Not to mention my hugely developing trading business. And Im still SO young. Life is good!

lift is great, even if you are a weak faggot you can see results

is there a reason i should exercise? i'm unconcerned with achieving peak physical fitness, as my normal habits are relatively healthy, and i'm too autistic to ever approach a girl or properly respond to one's advances, so trying to become more attractive seems pointless. allegedly it's supposed to make you happier, but i was exercising regularly at the most miserable point of my life hoping my outlook would improve, and it never did. in fact, i've actually become significantly happier since i stopped exercising regularly, though i wouldn't argue the two are connected, as other factors contributed to my increased happiness.

>>5839746
it's good for you mentally(at least that's what I hear)

you should probably find something that you find fun instead of just grinding stuff you hate

>>5839746

Did you not read any of the other posts in this thread?

Your reasons for doing so are shallow. You're very shallow.

Focus on the self.

>>5839746
your diet contributes to fitness too, if you changed it too drastically and combined it with training you could have just been overworked and overtired. You don't have to kill yourself when you exercise, just push enough so you are a little uncomfortable so your abilities will grow. Also exercise isn't an miracle cure for your problems. It helps but cant solve the issues you're dealing with

SS+GOMAD

>>5839746
It's balance, not aesthetics.

It's an area of my life that's lacking.

I lost 30 lbs. but that was the easy part. All I had to do was stop consuming trash. Now I'm on these last 20 and it's not going away without some exercise. I just have to change my mindset. This physical aspect of myself isn't optional. It's not the occasional burst of effort. A long walk and some calisthenics have to become parts of my daily life.

I'm not even in it to look good to others or myself. I just think about what kind of person can't demonstrate competency in all areas that humans are born to fulfill. No individual is above or below any purpose that our minds and bodies have been designed to excel in. I can't just say I'm not "good at" or "interested in" the mechanical movements and complex systems that cooperate to form my body. It's as ridiculous as when I hear people don't like to think or laugh or create.

Why do Hellenists work out naked? wouldn't that be uncomfortable as hell? your dick and your balls going yank slam yank slam yank

>>5839989

>Not contemplating the Idea of Beautyful

Hyper Barbaroi detected. Now please be qt slave

>>5840001
Hard to contemplate with your junk painfully bouncing around

>>5840003
Have you ever worked out naked?

>>5840003

When your junk is following a perfect circle closed motion, perfectly regular when running, I'd say you can't have a abetter contemplation of the bootyful

Shoulda did Starting pre-Socratics

>>5840010
I've done jumping jacks naked and it was hella awkward. I know some pagans who work out and run naked and they say it doesn't bother them, but I can't understand how anyone would ever get used to that shit.

>>5840003
Duct tape isn't clothing, technically. Strap it down and work it out.

>>5839655

Aristotle taught in a gymnasium, and was a talented enough wrestler to earn the nickname "Platon," meaning "broad-shouldered." In parts of Europe he's recognized only by that name.

The Greeks believed in fitness and learning the limits of the body. Moreover, a serious discussion about war and sport is a key element of arguably the greatest Greek work, The Iliad.

As for "why be in good health," the question is obscured by the value judgments inherit. Mistaking notions of value with truth is a sophomoric philosophical mistake, though a forgivable one.

That said, whenever this argument pops up I'm often forced to side with the meatheads, who believe their fitness to be "right." This is unfortunate, but limpwrists who believe sport to be fundamentally anti-intellectual deserve more scorn.

>>5840096
>Aristotle taught in a gymnasium, and was a talented enough wrestler to earn the nickname "Platon,
What?

>>5840096
well said

>>5840130
He probably wanted to say Aristocles

>>5840170
Oh, yeah that'd make sense.

>>5840130
>>5840170
>According to Diogenes, the philosopher was named after his grandfather Aristocles, but his wrestling coach, Ariston of Argos, dubbed him "Platon", meaning "broad" on account of his robust figure.[26]

Some Spanish-speaking countries still recognize him as Platón.

>>5840130
He probably meant Aristocles not Aristotle.

It is desirable to the extent that it doesn't become wrapped up in vanity and cause a harmful attachment to youth.

Ignore puff and platitudes like
>>5839695

basically you should do your exercise if you are greek about your virtue theory

also remember that ugly people are stupid and bad, beautiful people can only be tall, and short people can only at best be neat and well-proportioned

>i'm not being sarcastic

>>5839655

From a philosophical standpoint one should, logically, accept that we are physical beings, and that our bodies affect our thinking. Thus one could say it is a philosophical duty to keep oneself healthy enough that one's body won't affect one's mind in a negative way.

>>5840247

Sometimes I miss you

>>5839655
Shit.

Nihilism is the superior answer for couch potatos like myself.

>>5839746
This is my exact experience with exercising.

I think if you have insecurities about your health or body (too fat, too weak etc.) it will help you immensely to exercise. You'll feel better, your insecurities will vanish in time. If you don't have such insecurities, there just isn't enough reward to justify spending hours at the gym regularly working hard.

Look at Zyzz for example. He was skinny as fuck and probably had insecurities about it. That's what made him so driven to exercise.

>>5840220
>puff platitude
That was a major theme of Plato's Republic. I'd hardly call it a puff platitude

Your body and your mind are linked. The substance and the accidents relate against each other, and they should reflect each other. As you exercise the one, so exercise the other, and the fitness of the one will improve the other, and vice versa.

I do feel a bit conflicted because I try to keep in good shape but I'm extremely attracted to fat girls.

>>5839833
Nice dubs, breh.

Determination, courage and strength are virtues. You will be better and feel better.
Augustine of Hippo said: caro tua, coniunx tua — your body is your wife. You live in your body, you are married to it. Being good to your wife, she will be good to you.
Energy and heat are good. To vibrate at higher frequencies is to be a happier and better person.

>>5841246
Plato was a hack, so you should.

good blood circulation and all that.

the greek stoic philosopher cleanthes was a boxer and made money by carrying water at night.

>>5839703
Having the courage to lift lmao3plate!!1! for the first time

>>5839655

/lit/ rhymes with /fit/ ergo maintaining mind or body must come at the expense of the other.

>>5840505
>Answer

You mean excuse anon.

/lit/ has such a better mindset on this than /fit/ does. Lately I was questioning the purpose of working out and eating healthy. It seems the people around me are just doing it for vanity, or because society says its a norm.

I agree with everyone in this thread, healthy body, healthy mind.

Which is strange because finding the time can be kind of stressful. But if I can find the time to read, practice piano, ace my classes, and work I don't see why I can't find the time to continue to do some push ups, or choose healthier alternatives.

>>5841623
That would imply it's somehow false which is not the case.

Athleticism is to the body what philosophy is to the mind. To be a fit philosopher is to realize your humanity.

This is a lame thread. Run around if you enjoy it, and don't let yourself get diabetes. Forget this "harmony of body and mind crap" it doesn't matter, its just a myth about the potential for self improvement

how to exercise the /lit/ way? /fit/ scares me

>>5841767
go on long jogs/walks at night with periodical stops to jot down essay ideas in evernote

>>5839989
they had small penises

>>5839746
>is there a reason i should lift?

+mood
+confidence
+attractiveness (+pussy)
+respect
+security
+life

>>5839746
There's so many benefits, it's clear that exercise is a fundamental part of living, like eating and shitting.

>>5841767
>>>/fit/
>Read sticky
>stop being a faggot
>profit
You will thank me in a few months.

>>5843099
>>is there a reason i should lift?
why is it that exercise = lifting on /fit/4chan when for most of the population it's staying healthy with cardio exercise.

>>5843121
Because cardio doesn't put muscle on you which is what gives a lot of the benefits.

>>5843127
But you should be doing cardio (preferably LISS) along with lifting.

>>5843127
>what gives a lot of the benefits
not really. cardio is much more important for your health

>>5839655
It would be much harder to argue against good health, than for it. But where could you place fitness in philosophy?

Good health affects the senses and arguably improves the ability to use your senses for perceiving your end of reality.

There is a ethical argument about body building, in that you use up more resources to build and sustain your body functions, whereas in endurance training, you only need additional resources once, during the immediate training.

>>5843136
no you should be doing cardio and as a prevention from injuries and balancing body you should add some lifting to it

Thats how everyone besides betaass lifters or anyone alike does it

>>5841767
A basic lifting routine is just 3-4 exercises that can be done in 30-45 minutes for 3 times a week. Once you make it a habit and see results it starts being really easy.

>>5843157
Please get a trip so I can filter you.

>>5843140
Let's not argue about this shit. Just do both.

>>5843163
lol a butthurt meathead spotted
Enjoy your concentric cardiac hypertrophy

>not exercising 15 hours a week
>not being triathlete masterrace

Don't be physically weak.
Don't be mentally weak.
Lift.
Read.
Be based.
Be a God.

mainly calisthenics and running. gym memberships are too expensive.

when you run through different terrain types, woods, mountains, valleys. run with animals, run in pursuit animals. with no statistical objectives, just your own current absolute physical limits.

all narrative is defined by the physical, without language and symbolism. your existence is unfiltered by the medium of civilisation and modernity.
it can serve as tabula rasa for your social conditioning.
as your cells fight for oxygen, cannibalise your muscles for energy. when you feel your oxygenated blood surge in waves and the eternal wait between each feels like a death for this ephemeral machine.
new perspectives are gained, illusions lost and meanings realised.

i dunno what connotations athleticism conjure for others, but for me it's about realising the choice of an objective in the absolute, as such to accept death, by which every iota of "alive" is known, it's the simplest philosophy, and can't be attained any other way.

Just do crunches when you're trying to blow yourself in the pursuit of being a well rounded person and you'll get those washboard abs

>>5841767
my routine is good because it's easy and quick, so i can do it everyday without being lazy and skipping

15 minutes running on the spot
5 minutes sit ups
5 minutes weights
5 minutes running on the spot
cold shower

just make sure you get that burn. and that sweat.
pain = endorphins

I stay in moderately good shape, just general cardio, mostly cycling and running, want to start swimming; and bodyweight exercises, squats, crunches, pushups, etc.

ethical egoism. staying in moderately good shape achieves the best ends to achieve self-interest

>>5845506
>5 minutes sit ups
>5 minutes weights
>minutes instead of sets/reps and focusing on progressive overload

not gonna make it