/lit/ - Literature

>>5835751
Once you get addicted your brain normalizes the additional dopamine injection by decreasing the amount you naturally produce.

This is coming from a smoker. Don't be a fucking idiot.

yes
only when high, so maybe a pack every two weeks?
i wouldn't know, i only smoke outdoors or with friends. would love to hear other's thoughts though

all the cool kids smoke, you should too

>>5835765
This.

>>5835751
I don't smoke. I hate the taste of tobacco.
I haven't tried those "fancy-flavored" things either.
I did weed several times in my jeunesse, but I don't do it anymore.
I have some joints stored to offer ppl visiting me, it is somewhat of an ettiquette. Like candy at offices.

>>5835765

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/will-a-nicotine-patch-make-you-smarter-excerpt/

addiction is caused by tobacco, not nicotine. A vaporizer or nootropic mixture can get you the effects without the addiction

>>5835751
did in college
like two or three packs a week. sometimes four if it were finals or something
god yes. smoking made getting through work easier since i procrastinate plenty. if you dont, then dont smoke. youll spend more time smoking than working.

>>5835765
This, seriously. The "nicotine high" is pretty much a myth. You feel it the first couple times you smoke, thats it. Then youre fucking addicted and people mistake satiating their cravings for "relieving stress"

>>5835841
I always hated the "nicotine high" -- we called it 'headrush' --- when I started smoking. I did it to appear cool, but now I just like smoking, and I would quit if I got this fucking disgusting feeling from smoking.

I sometimes get it when I'm super drunk and it makes me feel like I'm about to puke

>>5835815
>did weed

underage and ban

then I was like

>I have some joints stored to offer ppl visiting me, it is somewhat of an etiquette. Like candy at offices.

>ppl
>actually storing joints

>>>/tumblr/

>>5835841
Nope, still get a buzz every time I smoke.

>>5835751
why not chew tobacco instead of smoke it?

>>5835841
>>5835850
Nicotine high is not a myth. You just smoke more than you used to so you don't get it anymore.

For example, the second anon in smoking is achieving nicotine poisoning, the puking feeling. You wouldn't be smoking so much where you got actual nicotine poisoning if your body wasn't so used to it.

>>5835886
I'd rather get lung cancer than loose my jaw and live. Plus, smoking is kinda nasty if you're a pussy, but chewing and dipping is degenerate as fuck.

>>5835901
>smoking is kinda nasty if you're a pussy, but chewing and dipping is degenerate as fuck.

that's what I'm saying, why not go all in at that point if you're gonna do it at least do it right

>>5835857
>omg u underage bcs u no smoke more kek
>flawless logik
>u store ur joints instud of smekin dem kekek

Go read some greeks and go back to sleep.

>>5835911
Because I don't fuck my cousin.

>>5835921
Since when do you advice for the Greeks you tremendous faggot?

>>5835823
>addiction is caused by tobacco, not nicotine
How can anyone possibly be this deluded?

I smoked a pack a day for 6 years. Quit two years ago.

I don't agree that the nicotine high fades, it just have its counter-reaction that OP is not accounting for: craving it. You'll feel bad when you don't have it, you'll get out at 2am to buy a pack of cigarettes.

For a long time I not only enjoyed smoking, but spoke openly of how good it was, how it is a social thing, how it puts needed pauses in your days... After I quit, I can't look back. It controls you, not the other way around. If you have a cold or a cough, it will last longer. You'll feel "heavy", hard to breath and here is the catch: you won't notice it. You'll think it's normal, because you don't remember how it is not to smoke. I realized this only months after I quit and saw the benefits and all of that which I was missing while I smoked.

It costs a lot. The money just flies. And it all goes to fucked up tobacco companies.

I slowly quit. I diminished after I got a bit sick and after that I started looking at people smoking with new eyes. It's like biting nails, constantly tapping on tables, eating excessively or babies sucking on pacifier. I realized it is just a product of anxiety, of a need to consume something. I think a lot of writers and artists smoke because they need to do something with themselves when they pause the manual work for whatever reason. I set to myself to diminish everything that was just this product of anxiety. I was also biting nails and stuff. As a mantra, I just thought to myself "I don't need this, I *can* not do this, what do I gain from doing it? Nothing.". And it turned less and less frequent. With cigarettes, it was just the same. I loved to smoke with coffee and after lunch. So one day, after lunch I said to myself "I can not smoke this one, I'll smoke later". And I kept doing this more and more frequently, until smoking was weird again and it just felt bad, as bad as the first time I smoked. I postponed the next cigarette, always saying I'd smoke tomorrow and then tomorrow never came.

When I began, I said no, my friends insisted, it was weird but I soon came to love it. I don't believe in waste of time and I don't like to say I regret it. But I do, without any moralism or any other fucked up argument and with all my heart, strongly recommend you not to start smoking and to all of you who do to quit.

PS: e-cigs and other shit like that is for fags, it's absolutely ridiculous, it's like diet coke, if you are into that then just smoke regular cigarettes you dumbass, I don't fucking care
PS2: smoke weed instead, but be prudent

>>5835751
just cigars for me.
cigarettes are pretty fucking disgusting.

>>5835751
I quit smoking regularly, being an addict was too much bother. Same goes for decaffeinated beverages mostly. I've found that the only habit that is worth maintaining is drinking.

>>5835751
I quit smoking regularly, being an addict was too much bother. Same goes for caffeinated beverages mostly. I've found that the only habit that is worth maintaining is drinking.

>>5836066
i love cigars!

is smoking a cigarette every other day going to lead me to a road to addiction? i like to do it as a study break for something to do and have my mind off for a bit. i have restricted myself to a cigarette a day at most. am i only fooling myself that it won't become more before i know it?

>>5835940

Whenever I feel someone has to he tormented by 2deep4me texts.

This is now a thread on Greel literature.
Go.

>>5835774
Yeah this person seems to know what he's talking about

>>5836149
Depends on the person. Some people can have two glasses of wine a day for life and some people become alcoholics and wreck their lives when trying to do that.

It all depends on how prone to addiction you are, which is a mix of genetic and environmental factors.

Also, the substance itself seems to matter. I have no problem with tobacco, but booze is my weakness, for example. Other people don't take to drinking but smoke weed all day every day. Everybody's different.

>>5835815
>I have some joints stored to offer ppl visiting me

Can I come over sometime then?

>>5836190
thanks for the reply. after all the different drugs i have done i have always kept my psycho-actives in moderation.

take care!

>>5835751

I smoke pipes regularly, maybe a half a pack of cigarettes a week, and cigars on occasion. Pic is my pipes.

>>5836235
thats not a pipe (only cultured ppl will understand this reference)

>>5836255
lol! Magritte is so witty isn't he?

>>5835841
Nah man, I get it pretty frequently. I've been smoking for 4 years and if my first cigarette of the day is well into the afternoon for whatever reason, I end up with this weird headrush feeling

>>5835850
smoking is deceptively pleasant when you're drunk. That's partially the reason why its taken me so long to quit

>>5836255
Cultured or people who have taken Art Appreciation in uni and think they are so kulturny? Don't delude yourself.

>>5836447
pretty sure he wasn't serious, anonymous

>>5836454
Yeah sometimes I don't get these hip kids and their irony.

DAILY REMINDER

SMOKING A CIGARETTE IS COOL

BEING A SMOKER IS NOT COOL

>>5835751
There are better ways to heighten focus without damaging your body

smoking sucks, I only took it up because I was 18 and I didn't have easy access to alcohol yet

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Too much
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No. I don't write.

>>5836302
>>5836447
>>5836454
>>5836468
sorry but u all missed the reference

>>5836639
You cheeky bastard!

>>5836639
>>5836695
only 90 kid will understand this meme

>>5835921
pretty sure he was making fun of the way you said you "did weed"

lol

>>5836010
Fuck off with your blog back to reddit, you disgusting piece of shit human being, filhty faggot and niigerlover cuckold. Suck my ass, asshole.

>>5836235
>>5836066
*tips fedora* specially to the gentleman with the pipes.

>>5837327
Stfu robutt

Sit down to /lit/ with my morning tea and cigarette, happily contemplating lighting said cigarette, see this thread...

I don't smoke even a quarter as much, but still 5 or 6 a day.

Smoking just gets in the way of everything, too. Don't know much about it altering my brain state.

Cigarettes and nicotine are the worst fucking drug available

seriously, any effect it might have lasts no more than a few minutes

>>5837370
They're a social thing, mostly.

>>5837370
they're pretty relaxing, I don't smoke now even though I used too, never felt addicted really just liked the taste of one now and then.
>>5835751
Drinking would help you more OP, all the best writers are drunks

>>5837370
>the worst fucking drug available
alcohol would like a word with you

>>5837400
i have never felt relaxed when i smoked a cigarette, my heart rate just went up and i became sort of jittery

i swear the only people who say they are relaxing are people hopelessly addicted to nicotine

>>5837414
alcohol actually has a strong effect on you though

>>5837427
>Nicotine is unique in comparison to most drugs, as its profile changes from stimulant to sedative/pain killer in increasing dosages and use, a phenomenon described by Paul Nesbitt in his doctoral dissertation and subsequently referred to as "Nesbitt's Paradox

I always thought it was weird that a stimulant relaxed people, but they were apparently not full of shit.

>>5837445
that's what I mean, the only people who find it relaxing are those who smoke the most, ie those addicted to nicotine

>>5837400
>all the best writers are drunks
And not one of them wrote while drunk

Itt: degenerates

>>5837400
>all the best writers are drunks

who, bukowski? ginsberg?

>>5837478
fuck off /pol/

>>5837482
Jack Kerouac, John Cheever, Raymond Carver, to name a few.

>>5837485

>im edgy I smoke cigarettes and listen toavenged sevenfold

Faggot

>>5837495
>my board is shit so i came to shit in other boards

>>5837495
I OP a /pol/ chat room and I'm glad this is happening to you. Go the fuck away, you annoying little nigger.

>>5837496

This board is already pseudo-intellectual shit I dont need to do anything

>>5837500

Congratulations.

>>5837495
fuck off to /b/ or some other shit containment board you uneducated simpleton

>>5837505

Maybe you should go to reddit. Its more your style. They love buzzwords and acting smarter than they are there.

>>5837514
no that's /pol/ actually

go hide behind infographs and racism

go blame other people for your shitty, lonely life

i genuinely hope you die alone and scared.

>>5837514
But what's your favorite book? Mine's Gulliver's Travels.

>>5837516

Keep Reading books not to educate yourself but for self confirmation (thus not growing as a person) and to escape from your shitty kissless virgin lifr

>>5837519
i will do that, since i am a hedonistic reader

as for the kissless virgin, i bet you really do wish i am, but im truly not

christ its like arguing with a child

>>5837327
This board is 18+ only, go back to 9gag.

>>5835944
because it's true you fucking idiot.

the addiction is caused by nicotine AND the MAOIs present in tobacco (which, obviously, are not present in a nicotine-only solution)

https://www.gwern.net/Nicotine

I've always found that the part about smoking that's most relaxing, most addiction, and most destructive to you isn't the physical part of it but the mental part.

You learn to love lighting your fire, you learn to love the swirling smoke in the morning, you learn to love the red glow in the night. The physical feeling of your body wanting a cigarette goes away in five minutes if you ignore it I've always found, but your mind keeps drifting back to it for hours, you rationalize reasons to smoke even after you stop sweating.

my friend gave me some fine cut dipping tobacco, I decided to see what it was like.

after using about 1/2 the can, my gums are visibly receding in the spot I kept it in my lower lip, my gums and lower lip hurt like hell and a white blister of dead skin formed there.

is that normal and my mouth just isn't used to it, or did i already ruin my mouth and give myself cancer?

>>5837574
>did i already ruin my mouth and give myself cancer
Probably not cancer yet, but keep damaging your gums like that and you can kiss your jaw goodbye at some point.

>>5835841
well I always get it but I smoke like 20 cigs a year
you could prob still smoke a lot more and still get it, just dont develop a habit

You can get nicotine without smoking, you know.

>>5835841
I started smoking when i was 14, now i still get a buzz from first cig in the morning

>>5836595

i dig your style fagve

Ayy lmao guys another /lit/ smoking thread

Anyways I am a casual nicotine user. I smoke perhaps a pack a month. Recently I've also started using dipping tobacco because they're going to ban smoking soon on my campus. Dip is quite tasty and also not as bad for your health as cigarettes are, I strongly recommend it. The other benefit to dip is it can be used indoors or even in class without disturbing anyone, and the buzz is way above and beyond anything you can get from cigs, and it lasts longer.

I typically smoke a cigarette before a major exam or assignment. It really helps me focus on the task at hand. Also if I need to stay awake for a long period (24+ hours) I use lots of tobacco along with coffee to keep myself stimulated.

I'm not an addict because as I said I only go through a back every 2 weeks-month and a can of dip every month or so but I like tobacco a lot and I recommend trying it.

Best cigarette brands:
Marlboro (Reds or Gold (lights) if Reds are too strong)
American Spirit (blue pack)
Camel Turkish Royals
Parliament (strongest cigarette I know of! Very good. Try the lights before you try the full version) Kind of expensive

Dip:
I've only tried Copenhagen and it's quite good

How did people get laid before smoking areas?

Also yes, I smoke about a pack a week on average. Sometimes less, sometimes more. I have gone months without, and spent weekend chain smoking. It feels sort of great to have no real chemical addiction to it.

>>5837795
But that isn't as cool

>>5835841
I always get it, and I smoke maybe a pack of ten a week.

I use to smoke but after being in the hospital for a week I tried smoking again and it wasn't really doing it for me. Reds really fucked up my throat when I got up to a pack a day so now I smoke lights which doesn't give much buzz but it's still enjoyable. I find I smoke alot in uncomfortable situations or when I'm at gogos and bars. It's a security thing and gives my day a welcomed pause. I don't find any creative benefits from it though.

And as juvenile as it sounds smoking makes you look cool as fuck.

>>5835751
I fucking hate smokers

I fucking hate the smell on your clothes, or in your apartment when the flatmates are smokers.

You are fucking up your vessels and You will die from it

And everyone doing it just cause its cool. How childish you guys can get.

>>5838004
*flicks Viceroy*

>>5836433
smoking when drunk is better than breathing in pure oxygen

>>5836010
I liked this post, but it's interesting that your PS2 advocates smoking weed. I smoked a lot for many years and I believe weed is far harmful (but in the grand scheme of life not that harmful) than many people believe today. But I suppose that's a discussion for another day.

Self-destruction is so 20th century.

>>5838004
You don't like thing
Congrats

2 other notes:
-smokers know it's unhealthy (this isn't new)
-despite what you think, smoking to look cool isn't the only reason people smoke

Sorry you're too beta to speak to your roommates about smoking in your apartment

>>5838089
Stop projecting your insecurities on me dirty smoker

I never said anything about smoking inside, but smoker's clothes (coats, jackets etc) are so stuffed with that nasty smells that it eventually emit it into surroundings. Maybe you smoker dont realize it.

Yes there are many other reasons, but the main thing that got you into it somewhere around teenage years is that you wanted to be cool. (mainly, of course there are same beta-ass faggots who smoke because muh feelings)

>>5838120
smokers*

>>5838120
I actually don't smoke, but some of my friends do. Sorry a smell is fueling your autism

>>5838129
Yeah, some of my friends do smoke too

And It's the worst habit

>>5835751
I smoke ganja, of course, but for tobacco I usually smoked richer menthol blends or darker, blacker tobaccos. Just quit two weeks ago, though.

>>5835751
Hate tobacco.
Weed makes me disassociate but does wonders to my reading comprehension.

>>5838141
>I smoke ganja, of course

I've been taking a break since early September but I've been recently thinking of picking up. Should I do it?

I smoke socially or just before a big exam. I smoke Marlboro reds almost excusively.

i quit like 5 years ago
previously i was on 20 a day or so, for the preceding 8 years

i am 100% definitely less happy now i don't smoke.

I quit a few months ago. It's boring.

What the fuck does this have to do with literature?

>>5838812
You haven't heard that smoking is /lit/?

>>5838640
>>5838645
I have been smoking for four years and for the first time three days ago have not smoked one.

I am currently rereading Hemingway and reading these two posts on top of it is not making it any easier you fuckers.

Have to say though, my lungs do feel better. And I can smell shit now.

>>5838645
>breathing on hard mode was the thing that made your life interesting

I quit last year after smoking 10-15 a day for the past 5 years. Quitting is definitely worth it. Smoking is expensive, and by buying cigarettes you're supporting evil companies that condone wrongs like animal testing. The litter smoking produces is also very bad for the environment.

>>5839436
>The litter smoking produces is also very bad for the environment.

Only if you're a girl/homosexual

>>5839705
I take it you speak from personal experience.

>>5839730
Yes, I've been around thousands of filterfags.

>>5839748
lel