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Know what annoys me about most of the philosophy majors of /lit/? These cretins actually think they are wise because they can make any argument veer into semantics and skepticism.

They think their fixation on the mysterious origins of meaning and the universe makes them on equal footing with scientists.

It's really irritating.

"You can't know nuffin! No capital T truth!"

Really? You useless destroyer of liberal arts. You, Derrida, Duchamp, and a whole host of other horsemen have single handedly destroyed arts and humanities for over one hundred and fourteen years.

A cult of mediocrity.
An exaltation of ignorance.
An emphasis on irrationality.
A shunning of objective truth and fact.

Failures indoctrinating failures= Arts Academia.

>> No.5775648

>being this mad

>> No.5775652

>>5775646
>You, Derrida, Duchamp, and a whole host of other horsemen have single handedly destroyed arts and humanities for over one hundred and fourteen years.

yeah and it got #REKT

>> No.5775672

>>5775646

Sounds like someone can't into wisdom. There's a reason why almost all important scientists, mathematicians, political and historical figures and artists personally studied philosophy. It's the most essential element of all knowledge. Your post depends on philosophic assumptions, that if you understood could better help achieve whatever the hell you were trying to achieve with this post, because as is you sound butthurt.

>> No.5775675

Bedtime, Ayn. Now.

>> No.5775686

>>5775646

Cry more.

>> No.5775699
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5775699

>>5775672
>There's a reason why almost all important scientists, mathematicians, political and historical figures and artists personally studied philosophy.

Lol so brainwashed. Keep payin' that tuition to learn about "continental philosophy" pfffff ffffttttahahahhahahah

>> No.5775702

>>5775646
You're the one desperately clinging your desired imposition of hierarchy and semantic binding in all areas of life, the onus is on you to shed this immaturity. I bet if you had your way, you would relegate high art to fora only accessible by the elites so that you could 'know' what was good and bad art. I also bet that you're the type of person to make a deliberate semantic distinction between 'movies' and 'films'

>> No.5775721

>>5775702
You're wrong on all accounts.

Regulation of art is a terrible idea, as the french academy of art proved when they were against impressionists.

Also, you're a faggot, like, a real one.

>> No.5775723

http://www.amazon.com/The-Killing-History-Theorists-Murdering/dp/1893554120#

>> No.5775729

Your OP is mediocre, ignorant and irrational. This is an objective truth.

Begone now.

>> No.5775733

This thread happens every week guys, lets just talk about actual books instead of this stupid bullshit.

>> No.5775735

>he thinks there's one Duchamp

>> No.5775743

>>5775721
Go suck Bertrand Russels dick somewhere else

>> No.5775747

Philosophy degree here. /lit/ is probably the worst source of philosophical discussion ever.

gr8 b8 m8 anyw8

>> No.5775749

>>5775699

what are you talking about? Almost every important scientist and mathematician studied philosophy of science and math, whether anaytic or continental (though mostly analytic) (i.e. Russell, Whitehead, Hilbert, Wittgenstein). However politicians and artist everywhere are influenced by the so-called "Continentals" (i.e. Nietzsche, Sartre, Heidegger). And i dare you to find an important physicist of the 20th century that didn't read Kant.

>> No.5775758

>>5775749
don't even engage bud. these threads are full of people who think that philosophy is about radical skepticism.

>> No.5775764

>>5775749

>However politicians and artist everywhere are influenced by the so-called "Continentals" (i.e. Nietzsche, Sartre, Heidegger)

>forgetting Marx and Hegel

>> No.5775781

>>5775749
Carl Sagan, Astrophysicists (close enough), shits on Kant mega big time.

http://kantwesley.com/Kant/Sagan/index.html

Now proceed to eat your liver.

>"B-b-b-but Einstien!"

You gonna make some nice coffee with that can-do attitude.

>> No.5775787

>>5775781
No one ever gets criticized in the history philosophy, good point

>> No.5775793

>>5775781
>Carl Sagan
>shits on Kant

It wouldn't matter to anyone if it wasn't so funny.
The guy seem to be saying that Sagan misread Kant though.

>> No.5775798

>>5775781
>that didn't read Kant
Are you saying he criticises him without having read him? Or providing a case of someone who read him and disagreed with him? Does any of your work involve drawing overlapping circles? So many questions.

>> No.5775799

>>5775787
History OF philosophy

>> No.5775800

>>5775781

So? Carl Sagan like Plato and Whitehead and considered some of their work as highly significant to him and the wolrd.

>> No.5775806

>>5775781
>implying 'shitting on' is the same as pointing out the obvious notion that Kant is outdated

Confirmed for 8 years old

>> No.5775811

>>5775781

To "shit on" him he has to read Kant. So... you proved his point.

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5775833

more science majors mad.
so many of them are jobless after uni now they have devoted themselves full time to shit posting


mfw i wrote some stem nignogs paper on evolution for 400$ because he was to retarded to understand a real theory.
when he could not understand how variation comes from genetic mutation he said "i guess thats why its just a theory"

he graduated and is unemployed now. Meanwhile i have a job in management at a startup.
again >mfw the code monkeys i boss around talk about how important computer science is, and how they are digital engineers as they search stackoverflow for every single line of code

if you get a STEM degree and didn't become a doctor you are a literal cuckold beta faggot, the only job that normies respect out of STEM.

stop trying to fool yourselves its pathetic

>> No.5775835

100% chance op is NEET

>> No.5775887
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lol @ all this butthurt.

For one second, imagine the life of the average philosophy major. Take out language and subjectivity, and observe them as if they were animals in an enivornment.

Philosophy majors smoke 420, drink alcohol, write papers about nonsense, and never actually produce or create anything. They don't create art-work. They do not build things. They do not command anyone or anything (unless you count philosophy grads forcing philosophy majors to write papers about nothing).

They're just parasites--very uninteresting societal worms. They're insecure. They are jealous. They shit on everything that is good and holy, and they have the narcissistic belief that their skepticism and stasis should be admired by everyone around them.

They're lack of being, their lack of using their time constructively, their lack of doing anything that might be considered difficult, is just sad.

I'd pity philosophy majors if they weren't so annoying.

>> No.5775894

>>5775833
>biology
>real STEM
also, daily reminder that evolutionary theory is just applied discrete math

>> No.5775919

>>5775781
The categorical imperative and Kant's Morality are not the only things he conceptualized or wrote. Hegel refuted that shit in almost the same century, and did it incredibly more meaningfully and precisely than Carl Sagan. Pop science loves the question of the existence of god, and that pretty much sums up the worth of their rhetoric.

Science and philosophy are intertwined, they are in a relationship with each other; one does not "refute" the other, they are within each other at all times. This is easy to understand even through basic intuition.

Kant was monumental, and his work has likely profound relevance to all the problems and thoughts you conceptualize regularly. "Scientific" or otherwise.

>> No.5775920

>>5775887
>They're just parasites--very uninteresting societal worms. They're insecure. They are jealous. They shit on everything that is good and holy, and they have the narcissistic belief that their skepticism and stasis should be admired by everyone around them.

this is such a stupid bait you should be ashamed that you thought it would work

>> No.5775952

>>5775887
>They do not command anything (unless you count philosophy grads forcing philosophy majors to write paper about nothing)

My friend's recent essay assignment:

>We begin by supposing that elsewhere in the universe there is a planet exactly like Earth in virtually all respects, which we refer to as "Twin Earth". (We should also suppose that the relevant surroundings are exactly the same as for Earth; it revolves around a star that appears to be exactly like our sun, and so on.) On Twin Earth, there is a Twin equivalent of every person and thing here on Earth. The one difference between the two planets is that there is no water on Twin Earth. In its place there is a liquid that is superficially identical, but is chemically different, being composed not of H2O, but rather of some more complicated formula which we abbreviate as "XYZ". The Twin Earthlings who refer to their language as "English" call XYZ "water". Finally, we set the date of our thought experiment to be several centuries ago, when the residents of Earth and Twin Earth would have no means of knowing that the liquids they called "water" were H2O and XYZ respectively. The experience of people on Earth with water, and that of those on Twin Earth with XYZ would be identical.